{"id":297341,"date":"2025-11-21T10:55:10","date_gmt":"2025-11-21T10:55:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/297341\/"},"modified":"2025-11-21T10:55:10","modified_gmt":"2025-11-21T10:55:10","slug":"haney-says-norman-win-makes-him-p4p-but-critics-disagree","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/297341\/","title":{"rendered":"Haney Says Norman Win Makes Him P4P, But Critics Disagree"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Devin Haney says that if he\u2019s victorious on Saturday night in his battle against unbeaten WBO welterweight champion Brian Norman Jr., he would be worthy of being given a high ranking in the pound-for-pound list.<\/p>\n<p>Haney (32-0, 16 KOs) states that he was ranked on the P4P list when he fought Ryan Garcia, but was removed after his loss. For the record, he was rated #6 after beating Vasily Lomachenko and Regis Prograis in back-to-back fights.<\/p>\n<p>Norman\u2019s Thin Track Record<\/p>\n<p>The problem with Haney\u2019s belief that a victory over Norman Jr. (28-0, 22 KOs) would put him on the top 10 P4P list is that he\u2019s not ranked on it. Moreover, Norman Jr. hasn\u2019t beaten any notable opposition during his career, yet he was elevated to the WBO welterweight title.<\/p>\n<p>Haney doesn\u2019t say who he should replace on the list to earn a top-10 spot. The way he looked in his fights against Jose Ramirez, Ryan Garcia, and Vasily Lomachenko isn\u2019t quite pound-for-pound material, is it?\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>The Ring Magazine Pound-for-Pound (P4P) Top 10<\/p>\n<p>Terence Crawford<br \/>\nOleksandr Usyk<br \/>\nNaoya Inoue<br \/>\nDmitry Bivol<br \/>\nArtur Beterbiev<br \/>\nJesse Rodriguez<br \/>\nJunto Nakatani<br \/>\nShakur Stevenson<br \/>\nDavid Benavidez<br \/>\nCanelo \u00c1lvarez<\/p>\n<p>Fans would laugh at Devin if he were to argue that he deserves to be rated by fans above Canelo, Benavidez, Shakur, Nakatani, \u2018Bam\u2019 Rodriguez, Beterbiev, Bivol, Inoue, or Usyk. It would make Ring Magazine look bad if they gave him a high ranking.<\/p>\n<p>P4P Politics at Play<\/p>\n<p>Fans are already criticizing their rankings as political for ranking Crawford above Usyk at #1 on the P4P list. But bumping one of the top 10 from the list to include Haney would be just as bad.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWith the Ryan [Garcia] fight, I got knocked off the pound-for-pound list, or at least some people\u2019s list. But I think this is a fight that will put me back on this list, high on that list,\u201d said Devin Haney to <a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/ringmagazine\/status\/1991710847853269159\" rel=\"nofollow\">Ring Magazine<\/a> about his belief that by beating WBO welterweight champion Brian Norman Jr. on Saturday, it would be worthy of him being added to the pound-for-pound list.<\/p>\n<p>What Haney Must Actually Do<\/p>\n<p>For Haney to be added to the P4P list, he would need to do more than beat Norman Jr. It would be a good start for him, but he would need to put together some solid performances consecutively. He hasn\u2019t done that.<\/p>\n<p>Prerequisite wins needed by Haney for P4P consideration<\/p>\n<p>Brian Norman Jr.<br \/>\nJaron Ennis<br \/>\nGary Antuanne Russell<br \/>\nTeofimo Lopez<\/p>\n<p>In Haney\u2019s last four fights, he\u2019s had three lackluster performances in which he should have had two defeats. A 2-2 record in his last four fights isn\u2019t worthy of P4P.<\/p>\n<p>Jose Ramirez: Win \u2013 12-round unanimous decision<br \/>\nRyan Garcia: Loss \u2013 12-round majority decision<br \/>\nRegis Prograis: Win \u2013 12-round unanimous decision<br \/>\nVasily Lomachenko: Win \u2013 (controversial ) 12-round unanimous decision<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt would show the type of fighter I am. I\u2019m fighting the best guy at 147 in my first fight. I didn\u2019t take any tune-ups or look to find the easiest guy to win a world title,\u201d said Haney. \u201cI went and faced the best guy. That\u2019s just a pound-for-pound fighter. That\u2019s a pound-for-pound champion.\u201d<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"110\" data-end=\"450\">Nation Vegas has been writing on the fight game since 2012 and is now a featured writer with Boxing News 24. Over the years, he has built a reputation for strong coverage of both major events and rising prospects, delivering news, fight reports, and features that connect with fans worldwide.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"452\" data-end=\"736\">With more than a decade of experience, Nation combines sharp analysis with an accessible style, making his work a reliable source for readers who want to follow the sport from every angle. His consistency and passion for boxing have established him as a respected voice on the site.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Devin Haney says that if he\u2019s victorious on Saturday night in his battle against unbeaten WBO welterweight champion&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":297342,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[447],"tags":[703,133781,49,48,82],"class_list":{"0":"post-297341","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-boxing","8":"tag-boxing","9":"tag-boxingnleigh-dawney-photographynthe-ring-ivnqueensberry-promotionsnfinal-press-conferencesnboulevard-citynriyadhnsaudi-arabia","10":"tag-ca","11":"tag-canada","12":"tag-sports"},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/297341","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=297341"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/297341\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/297342"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=297341"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=297341"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=297341"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}