{"id":303972,"date":"2025-11-24T15:16:08","date_gmt":"2025-11-24T15:16:08","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/303972\/"},"modified":"2025-11-24T15:16:08","modified_gmt":"2025-11-24T15:16:08","slug":"a-friend-with-benefits-how-greenshield-revolutionized-the-health-insurance-business-with-its-payer-provider-model","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/303972\/","title":{"rendered":"A friend with benefits: How GreenShield revolutionized the health insurance business with its payer-provider model"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a style=\"display:block\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theglobeandmail.com\/resizer\/v2\/JC6ME6DIFFC3FKA6T3I44DGTKI.jpg?auth=8101cb9b2a178764cc66f968458eabb95ebf20a5c207aed1752cfcb99a262479&amp;width=600&amp;height=400&amp;quality=80&amp;smart=true\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" data-photo-viewer-index=\"0\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Open this photo in gallery:<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"figcap-text\">Zahid Salman was hired as CEO of GreenShield when the company&#8217;s board saw a threat to its social mission.Duane Cole\/The Globe and Mail<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">About seven years ago, as the fourth-largest player in Canada\u2019s $40-billion health and benefits industry but the only one operating as a non-profit, GreenShield found its margins getting squeezed. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Seeing a threat to its charitable mission, its board realized it needed the help of someone on the for-profit side. As it happened, Zahid Salman, who\u2019d worked with insurance companies for years as a pension consultant, admired what GreenShield was all about. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">In 2018, he took over as CEO and instilled a focused, commercial mindset that turned the company around. Since he reshaped GreenShield into the country\u2019s first \u201cpayer-provider,\u201d its annual revenues have more than doubled, and its social impact has grown. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Maybe it\u2019s fitting that in a few months, GreenShield will move its Toronto office into the heart of the financial district, where the serious money plays. We spoke to Salman at his current office in North York.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Has GreenShield always been non-profit? <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Since day one. We were founded by a pharmacist by the name of Bill Wilkinson. A young mother walked into his pharmacy with two prescriptions. One was for herself, one for her young daughter. She couldn\u2019t afford both, so she ended up going without the medication she needed so her daughter didn\u2019t have to. This led Wilkinson to create North America\u2019s first pre-paid drug plan. That design didn\u2019t exist until he created it. The next thing he did was set up GreenShield as a non-profit. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">What does your non-profit status allow you to do that for-profit companies can\u2019t?<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">It allows us to think in the long term. It took Wilkinson 20 years to get that pre-paid drug plan off the ground. It was only when he worked with the United Auto Workers Union to convince GM, Ford and Chrysler to adopt that design in their benefits plans, and then hire GreenShield to administer it, that it took off. Would he have waited 20 years if he was not a non-profit? I don\u2019t think so. The other thing it allows is, we don\u2019t have to return excess earnings. \u201cExcess\u201d meaning any earnings we don\u2019t need to reinvest in the business. We can invest those in our communities. So we fund all sorts of social impact programs.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">When you became CEO, what was your mandate?<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">There were a lot of headwinds. Things like the push for single-payer pharma care, which is still an agenda item today. A lot of new entrants with new business and pricing models. There was a fear that Apple or Google might get into insurance. Price compression was another big one. Since we use all of our excess earnings to fund our social mission, that\u2019s a big worry \u2013 would we still be able to do that? So the board asked me to chart a diversification strategy to make the company more resilient and advance the social mission.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">How did you arrive at the payer-provider model?<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Initially we thought, should we go into life insurance? Disability insurance? But those markets are already well served. Instead, we diversified into health care. Because we were founded by a pharmacist, we have these deep roots there. And we saw a trend. More and more employers didn\u2019t want to just provide coverage for the 30% of health care services that aren\u2019t covered under government-funded services. They wanted to provide access to the care, as well. And in some cases they wanted to improve the experience of their employees around accessing the care. So what if we were actually delivering the care as well as the coverage? So we invested in some digital health startups. <\/p>\n<p><a style=\"display:block\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theglobeandmail.com\/resizer\/v2\/KRP5JTRSVRHC5DHV55TMZB7C6A.jpg?auth=cdbb61593946c1a4b21e2204f47f9acf5ba9b0ea9d897561421ba2c6a6f465b4&amp;width=600&amp;height=400&amp;quality=80&amp;smart=true\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" data-photo-viewer-index=\"1\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Open this photo in gallery:<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"figcap-text\">As CEO, Salman built Canada&#8217;s first integrated health and benefits company for GreenShield.Duane Cole\/The Globe and Mail<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">So now you\u2019re the country\u2019s first \u201cintegrated health and benefits company.\u201d How does that actually work? <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">The three services we started with were mental health, pharmacy and telemedicine. Let\u2019s say I have a splitting headache I can\u2019t shake. I can go onto the GreenShield app and access our telemedicine services, and get in front of a doctor within 30 minutes. The first thing the doctor could say is, \u201cI\u2019m going to give you some medication to manage the pain.\u201d The prescription automatically goes to our digital pharmacy, and it gets delivered to your door the next day. At the same time, the doctor might say, \u201cLonger term, perhaps what\u2019s driving the headaches is stress and anxiety. So you should speak to a counsellor.\u201d Through the app, you can get in front of a counsellor, as well. That\u2019s why we chose those three areas, because they fit with each other. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">These extra services add cost to your clients. Why do they want to pay that cost?<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Most employers already offer employee assistance plans. So we now offer an EAP that includes digital mental health services that are fully integrated with your insurance. So it may add a cost in terms of what they\u2019re paying us, but in terms of total spend, they\u2019re already paying that somehow. Employers have been seeing greater demand for telemedicine. One in five Canadians do not have a doctor. Those who do often wait four or five days to get in front of them. So there\u2019s a real demand for facilitating better access to care. Employers themselves find it beneficial because it helps with productivity and reduces absences at the back end. So there\u2019s ROI to the plan sponsor. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">With your digital pharmacy, the Health Depot, have you created a preferred provider network? <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">It\u2019s not a preferred provider network. We don\u2019t require anyone to use the Health Depot. They may choose to, if they see a benefit in integrating their pharmacy with the telemedicine and getting quicker reimbursement. But most individuals already have a relationship with a pharmacy, and we respect that and pay claims from any pharmacy. Where we do offer a preferred provider network is on a subset of the prescription drugs called specialty drugs. These are drugs that cost more than $10,000 a year. They\u2019re managed by specialty pharmacies separate from the Health Depot. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Is there an inherent conflict of interest there? You\u2019ve got a doctor saying you need a medicine, and you\u2019ve got your own pharmacy selling that medicine.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">It\u2019s a fair question. We don\u2019t see it as a conflict. If I can create an experience for a patient that provides greater integration between a doctor, a pharmacist, a mental health counsellor, and all that gets seamlessly enabled by a benefits plan\u2014because these services aren\u2019t covered under provincial Medicare\u2014I don\u2019t see it as a conflict. It would become a conflict if I forced it on anyone or provided large incentives to steer them, but we\u2019re not doing either of those things.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">The other question would be, are you monetizing the relationship between patient and doctor?<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">We charge a fee for all the services we deliver, and then we pay compensation to whatever practitioner is delivering the services, whether it\u2019s a pharmacist, a doctor or a counsellor. So for sure, we look to make a margin on the fees. Again, that\u2019s how we fund the mission, and every company would do that. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">GreenShield disrupted Canada\u2019s benefits industry with its payer-provider model. Has the model started to catch on here?<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Yes! We\u2019ve been growing at two to three times the market rate for a few years now. Obviously that raises some eyebrows. A few of our larger competitors have adopted their own version of payer-provider. Sun Life bought a company called Dialogue and put it under their Lumino Health brand. Manulife has done it through a partnership with Telus Health, which delivers the health care services, and a company called League that delivers the underlying technology. We are still viewed as the leading payer-provider in terms of the strength of the integration we\u2019re creating. As long as we can maintain that first-mover advantage and differentiation around breadth and integration, we think we\u2019ll win a disproportionate share of the payer-provided opportunities that come to market.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">There must be a tension between wanting to use your excess earnings for social programs and wanting to increase your services. How do you decide where the money goes? <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Think of what we do as social dividends. You want to make sure that you\u2019re investing enough in the business so that it can grow and the dividends can increase over time. But you also want to make sure you\u2019re carving out enough funding to maintain stable dividends. When I joined, we\u2019d contribute a small amount to the social mission\u2014about $2 million to $3 million a year. Then we started to bring a more commercial mindset. The target we set for ourselves is 15% to 20% of pre-tax excess earnings. So this year it\u2019ll be about $18 million. For the first strategic plan under my tenure, which took us through 2025, we set a goal of reinvesting $75 million into social impact initiatives, on top of whatever investment we need in the business for technology, for new products, for acquisitions.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">You\u2019ve now hit your $75-million target. What\u2019s next?<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">In February, our board approved the 2030 strategic plan. It continues to be focused on building out this payer-provider model, and we think the $75 million will grow to $125 million. We also recognize that we can\u2019t do everything ourselves. So we want to partner with other like-minded organizations to amplify the amount that we can do good with. Those other organizations could be private sector, public sector, government agencies, wherever there\u2019s alignment of interest. For 2030, the goal would be to find another $75 million to make it $200 million. And we believe with that pool, instead of improving the health and well-being of only a million lives, we can get to three million.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">GreenShield talks about democratizing access to \u201cculturally appropriate health care.\u201d What does that mean? <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">If you look at EAPs that provide counselling, the average utilization rate would be anywhere from 7% to 10%. Across the equity-seeking groups, it\u2019s much, much lower. And one of the big reasons is because there\u2019s a lack of culturally appropriate care, which means, in English, ethnic fit with the counsellor.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">So this is a way for you to differentiate your services and attract clients with diverse employee bases? <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Exactly. Our app will ask you what you\u2019re looking for in a counsellor. And then it will find the counsellor that meets as many of those attributes as possible. So it might take a bit longer, but then you\u2019ve matched with a counsellor who\u2019s a better fit. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">You\u2019ve talked about leaders exercising humility as a strategic necessity. How does that apply in your own experience?<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">During the pandemic, characteristics like authenticity, empathy and humility became much more valued in leaders. What is the value proposition to an employee to join GreenShield versus another organization? The purpose is really the big differentiator. So can you run a company that attracts people to the purpose if you yourself don\u2019t have that empathy, humility and authenticity, and demonstrate commitment to the social mission and doing good for people beyond just the clients that you serve? For me, it\u2019s a very, very important attribute.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Open this photo in gallery: Zahid Salman was hired as CEO of GreenShield when the company&#8217;s board saw&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":303973,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[34],"tags":[49,48,136426,84,136428,392,5770,136429,87789,136427],"class_list":["post-303972","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-healthcare","tag-ca","tag-canada","tag-greenshield","tag-health","tag-health-and-benefits-industry","tag-healthcare","tag-insurance","tag-payer-provider-model","tag-report-on-business-magazine","tag-zahid-salman"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/303972","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=303972"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/303972\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/303973"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=303972"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=303972"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=303972"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}