{"id":5615,"date":"2025-07-18T13:57:13","date_gmt":"2025-07-18T13:57:13","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/5615\/"},"modified":"2025-07-18T13:57:13","modified_gmt":"2025-07-18T13:57:13","slug":"ohio-state-mailbag-what-would-be-a-successful-year-how-good-does-julian-sayin-need-to-be","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/5615\/","title":{"rendered":"Ohio State mailbag: What would be a successful year? How good does Julian Sayin need to be?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>It seems like Ohio State just walked off the field at Mercedes-Benz Stadium with the national championship trophy yesterday, yet here we are just two weeks away from the start of preseason camp.<\/p>\n<p>You have a lot of questions about the reloading Buckeyes, so let\u2019s get to Part I of a two-part Buckeyes mailbag. Check back next week for more.<\/p>\n<p>The \u201cexperts\u201d at The Athletic have placed Julian Sayin in the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/athletic\/6483745\/2025\/07\/16\/college-football-quarterback-tiers-rankings\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">fourth tier of quarterbacks for the upcoming season<\/a>. He would have to play higher than that for the Buckeyes to have another\u00a0 great year. Your thoughts? \u2014 Crahans\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>I give Sam Khan and Antonio Morales a ton of credit for putting together a complete ranking of the projected starters around the country. I know that took a ton of work, so props to them.<\/p>\n<p>Sayin is ranked No. 32, in the fourth tier, which includes a variety of young, unproven starters. He hasn\u2019t played a snap yet, so it\u2019s hard to say exactly what he\u2019d need to do to reach the \u201cgreat\u201d level you ask about. I think we have to be careful comparing what Sayin needs to do this year versus what other quarterbacks have had to do historically for Ohio State.<\/p>\n<p>Will Howard won a national championship while throwing for 4,010 yards and 35 touchdowns in a program-record 16 games. He finished 23rd in the FBS in passing yards per game and third in pass efficiency, but he\u2019s not on the Mount Rushmore of Ryan Day quarterbacks in terms of talent. He did do a terrific job of doing everything Day asked of him.<\/p>\n<p>So does Sayin need to be a top-10 quarterback for Ohio State to have a great year? I don\u2019t think so. If he becomes that, then there\u2019s little doubt Ohio State will be a contender, but I think the Buckeyes can achieve that even without Sayin reaching that mark in his first season starting.<\/p>\n<p>Day and new play caller Brian Hartline aren\u2019t going to tell Sayin to throw the ball 35 times a game and live and die by his arm talent; they\u2019ll scheme things that work for him and the talent around him. He doesn\u2019t have to be an out-of-this-world quarterback to get the ball in the hands of Jeremiah Smith, Carnell Tate, Brandon Inniss and Max Klare, either.<\/p>\n<p>What he does have to do is take care of the ball.<\/p>\n<p>Only one Day-coached quarterback has thrown double-digit interceptions in a year \u2014 that was Howard, who threw 10 in an expanded season \u2014 so that trend will need to continue.<\/p>\n<p>If Sayin can limit turnovers, Ohio State will be in a good position. Let\u2019s just keep expectations for a redshirt freshman in check, even if he was a five-star recruit.<\/p>\n<p>What do you consider a successful season this year? Beating the team up north? Making the natty? Big Ten championship? A combination? \u2014 Matt T.<\/p>\n<p>Speaking of expectations, I think it\u2019s a combination.<\/p>\n<p>The standard at Ohio State is always 10 wins in the regular season, at minimum. But I\u2019d say the No. 1 priority right now is <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/athletic\/6466856\/2025\/07\/07\/michigan-ohio-state-best-college-football-rivalry\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">beating Michigan after four losses in a row in the rivalry<\/a>. From there, I think whether Ohio State wins the Big Ten title or not doesn\u2019t matter a ton as long as it makes at least a Playoff quarterfinal appearance again. That\u2019s the baseline for a successful season, to me, with so much turnover on the roster.<\/p>\n<p>Then you take that experience and make a run for another national title in 2026.<\/p>\n<p>How fast before OSU overtakes Penn State in the rankings? I\u2019ve never seen a team so overhyped. Drew Allar folds under pressure in every big game. Would you rather your team had Allar this year or Sayin? This year only. \u2014 G.R.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s not a given that Penn State will be ranked ahead of Ohio State in the preseason AP and coaches polls, though our Stewart Mandel did have the Nittany Lions No. 2, two spots ahead of the Buckeyes, in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/athletic\/6362964\/2025\/05\/21\/college-football-top-25-transfer-portal\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">his post-spring Top 25<\/a>, so we\u2019ll see in a few weeks.<\/p>\n<p>Regardless, if Ohio State beats Texas to open the year, it\u2019ll be the No. 1 team in the country going into the Grambling State game. Penn State doesn\u2019t play anyone of note until Oregon on Sept. 27.<\/p>\n<p>Some people have a lot to say about Allar being overrated, but I don\u2019t know if I\u2019d go that far right now. He\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/athletic\/6483745\/2025\/07\/16\/college-football-quarterback-tiers-rankings\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">No. 6 on our list of projected starting quarterbacks<\/a>, which I think is a fair spot. He has a chance to be a high draft pick next year, the physical traits are all there and I don\u2019t think we\u2019ve seen him play his best ball yet because of the lack of weapons Penn State had at wide receiver (something the Nittany Lions have attempted to correct through the portal).<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-6501672 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/GettyImages-2182504398-scaled.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2560\" height=\"1707\"  \/><\/p>\n<p>      Drew Allar will try to give Penn State its first win over Ohio State since 2016. (Scott Taetsch \/ Getty Images)<\/p>\n<p>If you put him on Ohio State this year, I think people would be talking much more about the Buckeyes winning back-to-back titles, to be honest.<\/p>\n<p>I like Sayin a lot, but he\u2019s young and unproven. If you\u2019re asking me who the better quarterback is right now, it\u2019s Allar.<\/p>\n<p>Still, for where Ohio State is, I\u2019d take Sayin because there\u2019s a bright future brewing for Ohio State\u2019s young players that could all come together for another title run in the next year or two with him at quarterback. And I think it\u2019s time Ohio State begins rebuilding and developing its quarterback room after having to go to the portal last year and struggling for consistency with Kyle McCord.<\/p>\n<p>How truly competitive is the QB competition? Day talks about it like it\u2019s really close, but he always says stuff like that in QB comps. What concerns me more is chatter that neither QB has separated himself. If that\u2019s true, is that because both are underwhelming? Or because both look great? \u2014 Michael H.<\/p>\n<p>The way I\u2019ve been describing the quarterback battle is it\u2019s more like Devin Brown vs. Kyle McCord in 2023 than Will Howard vs. Brown last offseason.<\/p>\n<p>Last year, there was a \u201cQB competition,\u201d but I don\u2019t think Howard was ever going to be the backup after transferring from Kansas State. The year before, though, Brown and McCord went back and forth all the way into the season.<\/p>\n<p>This year\u2019s battle between Sayin and Lincoln Kienholz seems more like the latter because the spring was truly a back-and-forth affair. It says a lot that when the receivers go to California to work out together, they are with both Sayin and Kienholz.<\/p>\n<p>Both have good qualities, but they were inconsistent in the spring. I wouldn\u2019t quite say underwhelming; it was kind of what you\u2019d expect from two players who played a total of 35 snaps last season. Only 14 of those were passing snaps, and all of them went to Sayin. They just don\u2019t have experience being the guy right now.<\/p>\n<p>Though I think Sayin had the slight lead leaving the spring game, it could change after the first camp weekend if he doesn\u2019t build off what he did then.<\/p>\n<p>Ultimately, I think it\u2019ll be Sayin starting, but I could see this dragging right up to Texas week.<\/p>\n<p>In the last couple of decades of watching Ohio State football, it\u2019s been common to see them have high highs (winning a championship) followed by a period of good, but not great, football. Is there any reason to be optimistic that Ohio State could have a season better than history might project us to believe it will be? In other words, could they realistically contend for a championship this year? \u2014 Tim W.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>I would disagree with the idea that Ohio State has been \u201cgood, but not great\u201d after winning championships. After Ohio State won the 2002 title, it went 11-2 and won the Fiesta Bowl in 2003, finishing No. 4 in the AP poll. And after winning the inaugural College Football Playoff in 2014, Ohio State probably should\u2019ve won back-to-back titles but lost to Michigan State and still finished 12-1 and ranked No. 4 again.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/athletic\/6375442\/2025\/05\/23\/college-football-best-program-rankings-2000s\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">No team has had a more consistent 21st century than Ohio State<\/a>, so when we say \u201cgood but not great,\u201d you mean good, but coming up short of a title.<\/p>\n<p>Can Ohio State be a title contender this year? Yes.<\/p>\n<p>But a bit more parity has crept back into college football now and the only team to win back-to-back titles in the Playoff era is Georgia in 2021 and 2022.<\/p>\n<p>I think there\u2019s a handful of true contenders this year: Texas, Ohio State, Notre Dame, Penn State, Georgia, Oregon, Clemson, Alabama and maybe LSU. That\u2019s nine teams, so a trip to the quarterfinal would be a good season and anything after that would be great.<\/p>\n<p>I think that\u2019s realistic for a team that lost 14 NFL Draft picks but returns the best receiving corps in the country, one of the deepest tight end groups, the best safety and a talented secondary.<\/p>\n<p>As long as Ohio State can avoid some early traps against Washington and Illinois, it\u2019s realistic to think it will be in that conversation again.<\/p>\n<p>Will the Buckeyes win it all? I\u2019d bet against it right now, but the sport is extremely unpredictable.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\">(Top photo of Julian Sayin: Ben Jackson \/ Getty Images)<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"It seems like Ohio State just walked off the field at Mercedes-Benz Stadium with the national championship trophy&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":5616,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[439],"tags":[49,48,551,546,559,527,525,523,526,524,2600,82],"class_list":["post-5615","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-ncaaf","tag-ca","tag-canada","tag-college","tag-college-football","tag-collegefootball","tag-football","tag-ncaa","tag-ncaa-football","tag-ncaaf","tag-ncaafootball","tag-ohio-state-buckeyes","tag-sports"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5615","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=5615"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5615\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/5616"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=5615"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=5615"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=5615"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}