{"id":61897,"date":"2025-08-11T16:57:08","date_gmt":"2025-08-11T16:57:08","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/61897\/"},"modified":"2025-08-11T16:57:08","modified_gmt":"2025-08-11T16:57:08","slug":"how-will-we-know-when-a-recession-begins-mark-zandi-lets-us-know","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/61897\/","title":{"rendered":"How Will We Know When a Recession Begins? Mark Zandi Lets Us Know"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Economist Mark Zandi thinks the US economy is on the brink of a recession, and there are a few signs he says that will show one has arrived.<\/p>\n<p>He delivered his dire warning about <a target=\"_self\" class=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/us-recession-economy-tariffs-immigration-policy-jobs-data-bls-trump-2025-8\" data-track-click=\"{&quot;element_name&quot;:&quot;body_link&quot;,&quot;event&quot;:&quot;tout_click&quot;,&quot;index&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;,&quot;product_field&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;}\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">the state of the economy<\/a> last week, and followed it up over the weekend with a series of posts on X about what he&#8217;s eyeing to know if the economy has tipped into a downturn.<\/p>\n<p>The topic of recession is heavily debated, with economists consistently deliberating over what qualifies. While the US is not yet in a technical recession\u2014defined as two straight quarters of negative growth\u2014other areas like <a target=\"_self\" class=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/july-jobs-report-unemployment-rate-employment-federal-reserve-interest-rates-2025-8\" data-track-click=\"{&quot;element_name&quot;:&quot;body_link&quot;,&quot;event&quot;:&quot;tout_click&quot;,&quot;index&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;,&quot;product_field&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;}\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">the labor market<\/a> have been sounding a warning.<\/p>\n<p>Zandi noted in his post that historically, the answer to exactly what signifies a recession is not always clear until after circumstances have shifted. However, in the thread, he laid out a few key factors:<\/p>\n<p>Payroll employmentEmployment levelsJob decline consistency<\/p>\n<p>He said that the National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER) is considered the arbiter of when a recession begins and ends, noting one key factor that its academic researchers consider above others. <\/p>\n<p>&#8220;While they look at a plethora of data to make this determination, most importantly, far and away, is payroll employment,&#8221; he stated, adding that if employment falls for more than a month consecutively, the economy has entered a downturn.<\/p>\n<p>Zandi said that payroll employment has not fallen yet but added that it has barely increased since May, which he seems to find troubling.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Given that the recent revisions to the jobs numbers have been consistently lower, much lower, it wouldn&#8217;t be surprising if we learn with the coming revisions that employment is already declining,&#8221; he said.<\/p>\n<p>                      Related stories<\/p>\n<p>                                <img decoding=\"async\" class=\"lazy-image \" viewbox=\"0 0 1 1\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/1754399290_935_placeholder.png\" alt=\"\"\/><\/p>\n<p>                            Business Insider tells the innovative stories you want to know<\/p>\n<p>                                <img decoding=\"async\" class=\"lazy-image \" viewbox=\"0 0 1 1\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/1754399290_935_placeholder.png\" alt=\"\"\/><\/p>\n<p>                            Business Insider tells the innovative stories you want to know<\/p>\n<p>For the second factor, Zandi raised the point that employment is falling throughout many industries. He <a target=\"_blank\" class=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/Markzandi\/status\/1954544462555648142\" data-track-click=\"{&quot;click_type&quot;:&quot;other&quot;,&quot;element_name&quot;:&quot;body_link&quot;,&quot;event&quot;:&quot;outbound_click&quot;}\" rel=\" nofollow\">said<\/a> that previously, if half of the 400 industries being surveyed reported declining employment, an economic recession had begun.<\/p>\n<p>He cited recent data that revealed that in July 2025, more than 53% of industries reported job cuts, with only the healthcare sector showing employment growth.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;But, unemployment is a lagging indicator and given that the labor force has gone sideways this year as the number of foreign-born workers is declining, unemployment will be a particularly poor barometer of recession,&#8221; he added.<\/p>\n<p>Zandi concluded that the US economy is still not in a recession, as evidenced by the job decline factor. &#8220;A recession is defined by a persistent decline in jobs \u2014 the decline lasts for at least a few months,&#8221; he said. &#8220;We aren&#8217;t there yet.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>He said that the economic tides could shift if policy weighs on growth. In his previous post, Zandi said that Trump&#8217;s policies, mainly tariffs and immigration, are the big drivers of his view that the economy is teetering at the edge of a downturn. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Economist Mark Zandi thinks the US economy is on the brink of a recession, and there are a&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":61898,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[11],"tags":[45,49,48,40216,40218,40213,46,2443,40214,40219,40212,40215,2100,7000,3608,40220,7326,40217,40211],"class_list":["post-61897","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-economy","tag-business","tag-ca","tag-canada","tag-datum","tag-dire-warning","tag-downturn","tag-economy","tag-employment","tag-job-cut","tag-job-number","tag-many-industry","tag-mark-zandi","tag-policy","tag-post","tag-recession","tag-top-economist","tag-us-economy","tag-us-know","tag-zandi"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/61897","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=61897"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/61897\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/61898"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=61897"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=61897"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=61897"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}