{"id":645923,"date":"2026-05-03T22:18:09","date_gmt":"2026-05-03T22:18:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/645923\/"},"modified":"2026-05-03T22:18:09","modified_gmt":"2026-05-03T22:18:09","slug":"iconic-manager-bruce-allen-on-confronting-bob-seger-and-taking-care-of-randy-bachmans-business","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/645923\/","title":{"rendered":"Iconic manager Bruce Allen on confronting Bob Seger and taking care of Randy Bachman\u2019s business"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Music manager legend Bruce Allen will receive a Lifetime Achievement Award at this year\u2019s Departure Festival and Conference, a music industry event taking place in Toronto from May 4 to 10. Last fall, he stepped down as president of Bruce Allen Talent, a company he founded in the early 1970s, and moved into the role of chairman. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">The 80-year-old Allen, nicknamed the Bear (and not for his hugs), spoke from Vancouver, where he lives, about managing Randy Bachman, splitting with Bryan Adams and getting in Bob Seger\u2019s face. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">There\u2019s a story from 1975 about your client Randy Bachman monkeying around on stage after a Bachman-Turner Overdrive soundcheck in New Brunswick for so long that the opening act, Bob Seger, didn\u2019t get his own soundcheck. Seger said he was leaving the tour, but you picked him up so he was eye level with you and told him he could leave when you told him he could leave. True story?<\/p>\n<p><a style=\"display:block\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theglobeandmail.com\/resizer\/v2\/6RJKEMK5I5AV5GELIOM3CFGB54.jpg?auth=4d7b6df1fa96acc9b9edd26b348d32b0e69773f2ae854e0b05e23efaaeafaead&amp;width=600&amp;height=400&amp;quality=80&amp;smart=true\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" data-photo-viewer-index=\"0\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Open this photo in gallery:<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"figcap-text\">Canadian music manager Bruce Allen.Katy Ann Davidson\/Supplied<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Well, Bob ain\u2019t that tiny. But it was definitely a face-to-face showdown. And, yeah, I told Bob he wasn\u2019t going anywhere. But Randy was out of line as well. Randy Bachman sometimes forgets when he was a warm-up act himself.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Randy was at a low point in his career when you began managing him in the early 1970s, was he not? <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Randy came out to Vancouver because he felt he wasn\u2019t getting the attention in Winnipeg because of Burton Cummings. Randy had left The Guess Who, and it wasn\u2019t a good split. He asked if I would work with him in Vancouver. I put him and the band to work in the clubs.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Wasn\u2019t that a bit of a come down for him?<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">He didn\u2019t want to play the clubs, but he also didn\u2019t want his band to just hang around while he was trying to come up with songs.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Were you even an artist manager at all at that point in your career?<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">No. I was a booking agent at the time. When Randy asked me to be his manager, I said, \u201cHow can I be your manager when you\u2019ve been all around the world?\u201d He told me not to worry about it, that we could do this. I said, \u201cOkay, let\u2019s try it.\u201d <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">What were the early BTO days like?<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">I drove the car. You had these huge guys and me driving all around the United States, from town to town. It got bigger. That\u2019s where it all started for me. I learned. I never missed a BTO show, ever, up until when the band fell apart later in the decade.<\/p>\n<p><a style=\"display:block\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theglobeandmail.com\/resizer\/v2\/L44A67R2OZAKNOTVTUVN3P33BU.jpg?auth=84343b1a1c70e32f78c73909ab0d8ae1c6c2d5720d89f3fe44f56d30719f12e8&amp;width=600&amp;height=400&amp;quality=80&amp;smart=true\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" data-photo-viewer-index=\"1\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Open this photo in gallery:<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"figcap-text\">Allen began managing Randy Bachman, pictured in Vancouver in 2024, after the musician&#8217;s departure from The Guess Who in the early 1970s.DARRYL DYCK\/The Canadian Press<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Did you still have the booking agency? <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Yes. I brought in Sam Feldman to handle the booking. I made sure I kept my Vancouver bands, because the city had a lot of places to play. Also, if anyone wanted to come into the city to play, they had to go through me and Sam.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">When did you start managing Bryan Adams?<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">When he was working in bars in the late 1970s. By that time, I wasn\u2019t booking bars myself any longer. I preferred the bigger-time business of being a manager. I still do \u2212 I really enjoy it.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">A lot of the artists you\u2019ve worked with, including Bachman, Adams, Jann Arden and Michael Bubl\u00e9, are very driven. Do you ever have to light a fire under a client?<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">If I ever needed to light a fire, it wasn\u2019t going to work. For example, with the Payolas, I knew I couldn\u2019t work with the singer [Paul Hyde]. Eventually, I went to Bob Rock [of the Payolas and, later, Rock and Hyde] and told him he could make more money recording bands as a producer and an engineer. And he did, and he still is. We\u2019re still together.<\/p>\n<p><a style=\"display:block\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theglobeandmail.com\/resizer\/v2\/DIQ65F6V55B2NLKS55IQNSQB3I.JPG?auth=e3823c5ae9f17c46f06c1fd9327e966fb16e4b424392d9383808c0651d9d9fc0&amp;width=600&amp;height=400&amp;quality=80&amp;smart=true\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" data-photo-viewer-index=\"2\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Open this photo in gallery:<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"figcap-text\">Allen poses with Michael Bubl\u00e9 at a 2007 press conference in Vancouver.JOHN LEHMANN\/The Globe and Mail<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">You managed Susan Jacks in the 1980s, after she left the Poppy Family and her husband, Terry Jacks. She said you brought out a strength in her no one else had realized she had. Is that kind of coaching part of the job?<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">With the Poppy Family, Terry was very good at writing songs. Susan was under his thumb, and I could see that. She hadn\u2019t had the chance to step out on her own. I didn\u2019t think I did a great job with her, honestly. But I\u2019m glad she took that out of our relationship, because she was a great talent. You know, some people thought I wouldn\u2019t be able to manage female artists. But I feel the women I have managed are strong as strong can be.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Like Jann Arden?<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Jann knows what she wants and she works hard. I came along too late to spring her in the United States. I\u2019m a bit ashamed of that. It wasn\u2019t for us, but we have a very solid career here. She\u2019s happy and lovely and a lot of fun to be around.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text mv-16 l-inset text-pb-8\" data-sophi-feature=\"interstitial\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.theglobeandmail.com\/canada\/article-donald-tarlton\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Impresario Donald Tarlton brought the world\u2019s biggest acts to Montreal<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">You and Bryan Adams parted ways in 2023. Why?<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Why? I don\u2019t want to talk about that too much. I\u2019ve left artists. Randy and I split. It\u2019s just something that happens. Bryan and I had a discussion that was no longer than three minutes. And that was that. What am I going to do, have a brawl with a guy who I worked with for 40 years? No. It was time. What Bryan and I accomplished, I think we\u2019re both pretty proud.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Did you two start with a handshake agreement?<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">I\u2019ve never had a written contract in my life \u2013 ever. People might say that\u2019s stupid. But I\u2019m 80 years old and I haven\u2019t been screwed over yet. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">This interview has been edited and condensed. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\"><a href=\"https:\/\/departureto.com\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/departureto.com\/\">Departure Festival and Conference<\/a>, May 4 to 10, various venues, Toronto.  <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Music manager legend Bruce Allen will receive a Lifetime Achievement Award at this year\u2019s Departure Festival and Conference,&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":645924,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[28],"tags":[901,888,902,879,877,903,49,48,876,895,896,891,878,875,46,549,75,295,894,887,914,880,881,893,889,890,884,904,341,885,909,910,912,907,911,905,908,882,898,899,714,897,906,865,61,900,892,886,883,913],"class_list":["post-645923","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-music","tag-alberta","tag-arts-news","tag-bc","tag-breaking-news","tag-breaking-news-video","tag-british-columbia","tag-ca","tag-canada","tag-canada-news","tag-canada-sports","tag-canada-sports-news","tag-canada-trafficcanada-weather","tag-canadian-breaking-news","tag-canadian-news","tag-economy","tag-education","tag-entertainment","tag-environment","tag-federal-government","tag-foreign-news","tag-globe-and-mail","tag-globe-and-mail-breaking-news","tag-globe-and-mail-canada-news","tag-government","tag-life-news","tag-lifestyle","tag-local-news","tag-manitoba","tag-music","tag-national-news","tag-new-brunswick","tag-newfoundland-and-labrador","tag-northwest-territories","tag-nova-scotia","tag-nunavut","tag-ontario","tag-pei","tag-photos","tag-political-news","tag-political-opinion","tag-politics","tag-politics-news","tag-quebec","tag-sports-news","tag-technology","tag-travel","tag-trudeau","tag-us-news","tag-world-news","tag-yukon"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/645923","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=645923"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/645923\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/645924"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=645923"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=645923"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=645923"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}