{"id":6951,"date":"2025-07-19T02:09:03","date_gmt":"2025-07-19T02:09:03","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/6951\/"},"modified":"2025-07-19T02:09:03","modified_gmt":"2025-07-19T02:09:03","slug":"kuo-galaxy-z-fold8-to-introduce-crease-free-display-before-apple","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/6951\/","title":{"rendered":"Kuo: Galaxy Z Fold8 to introduce crease-free display before Apple"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>L<\/p>\n<p class=\"uopin\"><a href=\"#3092328\" class=\"uinreply\">GAMIR3DH, 2 hours ago<\/a>It gets scratched, something that doesn&#8217;t happen during regular use. Unlesd you got long &#8230; <a href=\"#3092328\">more<\/a>Really, you are scratching glass with your fingernail? Do you have sharpened titanium nails or are just full of bs??<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/572d9237f2a0bb85aa2d18bce1726acb\" alt=\"\"\/><\/p>\n<p class=\"uopin\">this fold display technology still getting perfected and its so expensive now, meh I&#8217;ll wait until foldable becomes available for better price than 2k USD.<\/p>\n<p>a<\/p>\n<p class=\"uopin\"><a href=\"#3092197\" class=\"uinreply\">Socalteknique, 10 hours ago<\/a>Typical Scamsung. Always waiting for Apple to become a threat for them to finally do what fans&#8230; <a href=\"#3092197\">more<\/a>Apple is buying their crease free screens from Samsung.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/e461ccb98b7030533493b58a6e8b61e5\" alt=\"\"\/><\/p>\n<p class=\"uopin\">Lurker, 3 hours agoTry scratching your glass screen with fingernail, go ahead.It gets scratched, something that doesn&#8217;t happen during regular use. Unlesd you got long nails ofcourse.<\/p>\n<p>L<\/p>\n<p class=\"uopin\">GAMIR3DH, 12 hours agoWell, a glass screen still gets scratched by anything too so go an complain about that aswell.Try scratching your glass screen with fingernail, go ahead.<\/p>\n<p>L<\/p>\n<p class=\"uopin\">Anonymous, 4 hours agoWorlds biggest yapperTikTok brain.<\/p>\n<p>?<\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n\tAnonymous&#13;<br \/>\n\tqb{&#13;<br \/>\n\t4 hours ago\t&#13;<\/p>\n<p class=\"uopin\"><a href=\"#3092238\" class=\"uinreply\">kdss, 8 hours ago<\/a>There is reason in your words.&#13;<br \/>\nBut I have a different opinion.&#13;<br \/>\nFirst, I think that Samsung w&#8230; <a href=\"#3092238\">more<\/a>Worlds biggest yapper<\/p>\n<p>I<\/p>\n<p class=\"uopin\">Great,  crease is out. Only took 8 generations. Maybe by the the 16th iteration,  the screen won&#8217;t face catastrophic damagefrom a finger nail,scratches at a level 2!<\/p>\n<p>?<\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n\tAnonymous&#13;<br \/>\n\tP2x&#13;<br \/>\n\t5 hours ago\t&#13;<\/p>\n<p class=\"uopin\">breaking news, companies using the same display, and the same outsourced parts manufacturer, are going to introduce a technology at the same time&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>T<\/p>\n<p class=\"uopin\"><a href=\"#3092238\" class=\"uinreply\">kdss, 8 hours ago<\/a>There is reason in your words.&#13;<br \/>\nBut I have a different opinion.&#13;<br \/>\nFirst, I think that Samsung w&#8230; <a href=\"#3092238\">more<\/a>I think you put too much stock in Samsung trying to beat Apple, especially since Apple tends to almost never do anything first, instead they refine other people&#8217;s breakthroughs and make them easier for Apple&#8217;s buyers to use.<\/p>\n<p>Samsung being first also wouldn&#8217;t appeal to Apple buyers anymore than Apple doing something first appeals to most Android or Linux users. Doing something exclusively like flip\/fold might, and even then it&#8217;s an uphill battle.<\/p>\n<p>In general who puts much stock in such claims as their motivation for buying? Very small number\/segment of consumer innovators, hardly the segment from which you expect large sales figures, let alone large migrations from sticky Apple users.<\/p>\n<p>As for battery, as I mentioned before, they&#8217;re not then one to do that,<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\nIt&#8217;s also not a requirement to succeed in my scenario, as large volume sale is not the goal, but it is in yours, which alone tells me their motivation wasn&#8217;t the same.<\/p>\n<p>Most importantly if Samsung was looking for wide &amp; wild success in the Edge, then why wan&#8217;t there a marketing campaign even closs to match? There was no fanfare about it, heck I&#8217;ve seen more ads, fanfare &amp; news segments about each of the refreshed foldables than there was about this supposed &#8216;we&#8217;re yelling from the rooftops we did it first&#8217; product Edge. Look at last year&#8217;s Samsung ring marketing, that&#8217;s more what to expect at least if the Edge were intended to be a wide success IMO. It&#8217;s like even to Samsung&#8217;s marketing team it barely existed either.<\/p>\n<p>Of course we both could be wrong. \ud83e\udd37\ud83c\udffb\u200d\u2642\ufe0f<\/p>\n<p>Maybe in a coupla years an insider will spill the beans, it&#8217;ll be a story that gets no press and of interest to a handful of people, that&#8217;s usually how we find out the truth of these things.<\/p>\n<p>PS, you mention in your reply to Anon about big companies and risk\/security, the Edge product IS a risk, not making it is the safer thing to do, just keep making S25 with spec changes, the Edge is more of a risk. There&#8217;s risk and then there&#8217;s risk, and the battery thing y&#8217;all focus on is not the same risk as a new product, as mentioned\/explained before.<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\nAnd contrary to the statement, Apple isn&#8217;t the bigger fish, they&#8217;re equal and that&#8217;s despite, as you acknowledge, Apple spending more on marketing than pretty much all other mfrs combined,<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\nThe difference being that Apple sales also benefit Samsung immensely, some years when the profit from display sales to Apple outweighed the profits of their own mobile segment.<\/p>\n<p>C<\/p>\n<p class=\"uopin\">Well crease or not as long as main screen will not feature GG victus or better foldables are no for me. <\/p>\n<p>k<\/p>\n<p class=\"uopin\"><a href=\"#3092258\" class=\"uinreply\">Anonymous, 8 hours ago<\/a>I mean, they&#8217;ve been the biggest smartphone maker in the world for nearly 20 years. I thi&#8230; <a href=\"#3092258\">more<\/a>I&#8217;m not saying they won&#8217;t be good. I&#8217;m more than sure of that. Samsung is not just about smartphones.<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\nBut the stupid things that the biggest companies can do when they are driven by security in their users are really big. I&#8217;m just trying to show them. And Edge shows exactly that.<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\nAnd there are always bigger fish in the ocean than you. In the case of Samsung phones &#8211; Apple. That&#8217;s what I&#8217;m saying. And not because Apple phones are better. Apple is just on a different level in terms of marketing compared to everyone else combined.<\/p>\n<p>?<\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n\tAnonymous&#13;<br \/>\n\t7@8&#13;<br \/>\n\t8 hours ago\t&#13;<\/p>\n<p class=\"uopin\"><a href=\"#3092238\" class=\"uinreply\">kdss, 8 hours ago<\/a>There is reason in your words.&#13;<br \/>\nBut I have a different opinion.&#13;<br \/>\nFirst, I think that Samsung w&#8230; <a href=\"#3092238\">more<\/a>I mean, they&#8217;ve been the biggest smartphone maker in the world for nearly 20 years. I think, they&#8217;ll be just fine despite your strange alarmism.<\/p>\n<p>k<\/p>\n<p class=\"uopin\"><a href=\"#3092182\" class=\"uinreply\">Tazman, 11 hours ago<\/a>Well there is a market for it, even if it isn&#8217;t yours or mine, so that alone justifies it&#8230; <a href=\"#3092182\">more<\/a>There is reason in your words.<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\nBut I have a different opinion.<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\nFirst, I think that Samsung was too sure that they would achieve unprecedented success, whatever device they released on the market. Well, it didn&#8217;t work out exactly like that, since they even had to reduce the production of Edge, since demand did not meet their expectations.<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\nSecond, they thought that by being first, they would be able to steal customers from Apple with this product. Well, it didn&#8217;t happen. This will not happen in general, no matter what alien product they release on the market. Apple fans are so consolidated that even if they gave them an Edge as a gift, 99 percent of them would not even turn it on to look at it. Some call this a cult, for me it is more like stupidity.<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\nThird, they definitely wanted to be first before Apple. And that&#8217;s why we got an unfinished product. And no matter how diehard Samsung fans are, they still have more sense than Apple&#8217;s and wouldn&#8217;t blindly buy something that costs as much as the Ultra, but in terms of specifications it&#8217;s below the pure S25.<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\nFourth, even with all its shortcomings it could have attracted a lot more customers if they had simply put a bigger battery in it, which is probably the most important requirement for people who are looking for a thin and light phone anyway. It&#8217;s definitely clear to everyone that a thin phone can only offer a big screen and a big battery. Well, Edge offered only 50 percent of TWO, which is ONE.<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\nAnd the fact that they&#8217;re stopping the S+ variant because of EDGE shows how confident they are in their sales. And even from the moon everyone can see that if they had simply put at least 1 top camera on the S25+ and even on the S25, they would have broken the market with sales. But to me, they purposely keep these models so limited so that everyone can pay a little more and buy an Ultra.<\/p>\n<p>Y<\/p>\n<p class=\"uopin\">Why not have two motors on each side of the device that will roll outwards in order to stretch the panel &amp; straighten out the crease? (motors will have to roll every time you unfold\/fold)<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s similar to the rolling LG TVs, except you have two motors rolling in opposite directions.<\/p>\n<p>S<\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n\tSocalteknique&#13;<br \/>\n\tc}7&#13;<br \/>\n\t10 hours ago\t&#13;<\/p>\n<p class=\"uopin\">Typical Scamsung. Always waiting for Apple to become a threat for them to finally do what fans have been asking for years.<\/p>\n<p>?<\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n\tAnonymous&#13;<br \/>\n\trK8&#13;<br \/>\n\t11 hours ago\t&#13;<\/p>\n<p class=\"uopin\">Anyone using current gen of foldables can tell you, crease is no longer an issue. Price is. They should release foldables for lower tier chipsets with reduced prices. Like Sn 8 Gen 1 or Snapdragon 7 $1k Fold FE. <\/p>\n<p>T<\/p>\n<p class=\"uopin\"><a href=\"#3092155\" class=\"uinreply\">kdss, 12 hours ago<\/a>I was joking a little with the previous comment.&#13;<br \/>\nHonestly, I&#8217;ve never cared about who di&#8230; <a href=\"#3092155\">more<\/a>Well there is a market for it, even if it isn&#8217;t yours or mine, so that alone justifies it&#8217;s release.<\/p>\n<p>However I think I can explain a reason for the Edge to you (other than truly some people just want the thinnest phone possible [ like they might want a Zoolander smallest phone possible]). It mirrors Apple&#8217;s own reasoning for an iPhine Air in a similar time frame just before their Fold launch&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>They are both large scale R&amp;D feedback projects, leading ups to other designs&#8230; like the thinner foldables and portless phones. The later being the lesser current focus, but offers learnings for that application too.<\/p>\n<p>While you can test design prototypes in the company even with a wide alpha distribution of internal devices, nothing beats a product in the wild for testing in ways you couldn&#8217;t guess\/imagine, and it requires that you figure out the production\/mfr challenges a concept\/prototype device doesn&#8217;t.<\/p>\n<p>Making these small volume niches devices that push the boundaries help them figure out the limits of their mfr process for things like stacking PCBs\/components\/connectors, etc to fit into the thinner space under a more ideal situation that better isolates the mis-steps and areas that need to be worked on than putting it into a cramped foldable.<\/p>\n<p>It also means that you don&#8217;t risk the development\/production of your successful product, and can instead have an offshoot codename project that if it fails can simply be delayed or never see the light of day, admittedly at a greater cost than just a prototype.<\/p>\n<p>If they weren&#8217;t fully satisfied with their results in the production phase, you either wouldn&#8217;t have seen it come out at all, or it would&#8217;ve been spun-off into a separate quietly released niche product (like the Fold6SE) for a limited market that gets less mainstream press, as a &#8216;were getting close&#8217; product that we&#8217;re not ready to have people focus on, but we do want people to use\/test for us.<\/p>\n<p>That we got a full product launch means they were successful through most\/all of their milestones and they felt it was worthy.<\/p>\n<p>IMO, that it launched quietly and before Unpacked with less fanfare to me means that it was less about screaming &#8221; we&#8217;re thinnest first &#8221; (especially as seen by the Fold vs Honor debate that title is contested and last a weekend depending on definition), and more about &#8216;we have a product that we can learn from that we think enough people might buy to make it worthwhile&#8217;.<\/p>\n<p>Then they can improve on that form factors in the areas that customers say is lacking with the next model<\/p>\n<p>That&#8217;s my take on it, finance &amp; improve you R&amp;D with a production model that can be applied to other models.<\/p>\n<p>J<\/p>\n<p class=\"uopin\">What I truly want Samsung to do is what LG have done before: making some dual-screen case for their S Series models<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"L GAMIR3DH, 2 hours agoIt gets scratched, something that doesn&#8217;t happen during regular use. 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