{"id":786157,"date":"2026-07-07T13:57:19","date_gmt":"2026-07-07T13:57:19","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/786157\/"},"modified":"2026-07-07T13:57:19","modified_gmt":"2026-07-07T13:57:19","slug":"matt-gurney-u-boats-for-canada-eh","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/786157\/","title":{"rendered":"Matt Gurney: U-boats for Canada, eh?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/$s_!DXxl!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe984de71-5a5a-4002-a3ac-cc0fe7eb16bc_960x675.jpeg\" data-component-name=\"Image2ToDOM\" class=\"image-link image2 is-viewable-img can-restack\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/07\/https:\/\/substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com\/public\/images\/e984de71-5a5a-4002-a3ac-cc0fe7eb16bc_960x.jpeg\" width=\"960\" height=\"675\" data-attrs=\"{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https:\/\/substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com\/public\/images\/e984de71-5a5a-4002-a3ac-cc0fe7eb16bc_960x675.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:675,&quot;width&quot;:960,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:105192,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image\/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:true,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https:\/\/www.readtheline.ca\/i\/205696510?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1da402c7-b450-4e8f-a1d8-282127d64d0b_960x1200.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}\" alt=\"\"   fetchpriority=\"high\" class=\"sizing-normal\"\/><\/a>This man has a preferred submarine supplier (Via the PM\u2019s X account.)<\/p>\n<p> By: Matt Gurney<\/p>\n<p>In Halifax on Monday, Prime Minister Mark Carney announced that Canada had chosen a preferred vendor for our new fleet of patrol submarines. Canada will (probably) be going with a German-Norwegian consortium that was offering the Type 212CD submarine, and not the South Korean boats offered by Hanwha. The prime minister said it was a close finish between the two competitors and noted that either design would have met Canada\u2019s needs. The decision announced Monday is not a final purchase order but rather a determination of who our preferred partner would be. The prime minister said that if the negotiations with TKMS, the German company offering the 212CD, did not go well, Hanwha remained an acceptable option.<\/p>\n<p>Personally, I was rooting for the Koreans. I liked their submarine\u2019s ability to launch missiles vertically, which would\u2019ve given the Canadian fleet some powerful strike options. I also tripped a little over the thought of Canadians in U-boats \u2014 I suspect many historically minded Canadians will also blink hard at that little twist of fate. But I fundamentally agree with the prime minister \u2014 either boat is fine for our purposes. The 212CD will be an excellent asset once it enters Canadian service (presumably with a snappier name). <\/p>\n<p>Sooner would be better. The prime minister noted repeatedly during his remarks on Monday that the government was moving quickly to make this announcement, having settled on a preferred partner five years ahead of the original schedule. This is true, and I give the prime minister full credit for that. I would also note that the schedule was already ridiculously long. We actually should have begun replacing the submarines a decade ago. The PM\u2019s comments reminded me that I had written a column about the urgent need to just get on with replacing the submarines when we had last announced another cycle of refurbishments to keep the current fleet in service because we had yet again delayed a decision on a replacement. <\/p>\n<p>I found my old article. I wrote it seven years ago.<\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.readtheline.ca\/subscribe\" data-component-name=\"Image2ToDOM\" class=\"image-link image2 can-restack\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/07\/https:\/\/substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com\/public\/images\/5f1b3252-5089-44e2-a080-d8d499c266a3_764x.jpeg\" width=\"248\" height=\"90.24083769633508\" data-attrs=\"{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https:\/\/substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com\/public\/images\/5f1b3252-5089-44e2-a080-d8d499c266a3_764x278.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:278,&quot;width&quot;:764,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:248,&quot;bytes&quot;:172967,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image\/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;https:\/\/www.readtheline.ca\/subscribe&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https:\/\/www.readtheline.ca\/i\/195877239?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5f1b3252-5089-44e2-a080-d8d499c266a3_764x278.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}\" alt=\"\" title=\"\"   loading=\"lazy\" class=\"sizing-normal\"\/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>That was bad. Carney accelerating it is good. It\u2019s also good that we are looking at a much larger fleet of submarines, going from four to as many as 12. Submarines are very complicated machines. For every boat you want available for service, you need three or four in your fleet. This gives you a large enough fleet to have an operational submarine available while others undergo maintenance or refits or participate in training exercises with their crews. The four Victoria-class submarines Canada possesses today mean that we typically might have one available for service at any given time, so a fleet of 12 will give us a much more robust presence. Given that we claim three oceans, and that the world is pretty much a dumpster fire these days, having a submarine available on each coast at all times seems like a good idea.<\/p>\n<p>Time is of the essence. Germany and Norway, the prime minister said, have offered to allow Canada to cut ahead of them in line for deliveries of the submarines, which are already under construction but haven\u2019t yet entered service. Given the decrepit state of our elderly existing fleet, that was obviously a meaningful sweetener, and the PM said the first boats could be in Canadian service in seven or eight years, which is pushing the Victorias to their limits, but should work. We hope? <\/p>\n<p>The prime minister also spoke at length about the economic and industrial benefits Canada will receive through the deal, with apparently every dollar we spend on these boats eventually being invested back into Canada. I roll my eyes a little bit at the continued need to treat military procurement as a jobs-creation program \u2014 our insistence on doing this probably helps explain why we suck at procurement! <\/p>\n<p>But I have made a reluctant peace with the reality that the destabilization of the Western alliance has made a degree of economic nationalism, particularly on military equipment, unavoidable. I don\u2019t like it, I don\u2019t think it\u2019ll help the military, but I\u2019ve resigned myself to it. I can only shout at clouds so long before turning hoarse, and Monday may have been the day I hit that limit.<\/p>\n<p>So that\u2019s the substance of the announcement: German-Norweigan boats, lots of money spent in Canada, sad Koreans, and genuinely excellent submarines, in large numbers, that will give the Canadian Navy some real capabilities. <\/p>\n<p>Good! Well, mostly good \u2014 it\u2019s sad the Koreans are sad. Perhaps we can make it up to them by buying some other Korean weapons. They make some great kit. <\/p>\n<p>In the meantime, though, while we wait to see if we get the boats on anything remotely close to the timeline and budget we were hoping for, it\u2019s worth considering a few things.<\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/donorbox.org\/support-the-line\" data-component-name=\"Image2ToDOM\" class=\"image-link image2 can-restack\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/07\/https:\/\/substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com\/public\/images\/80cd80c8-9d07-4cb4-8f28-2fa7424d603b_770x.jpeg\" width=\"250\" height=\"88.31168831168831\" data-attrs=\"{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https:\/\/substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com\/public\/images\/80cd80c8-9d07-4cb4-8f28-2fa7424d603b_770x272.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:272,&quot;width&quot;:770,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:250,&quot;bytes&quot;:251890,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image\/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;https:\/\/donorbox.org\/support-the-line&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https:\/\/www.readtheline.ca\/i\/195877239?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F80cd80c8-9d07-4cb4-8f28-2fa7424d603b_770x272.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}\" alt=\"\" title=\"\"   loading=\"lazy\" class=\"sizing-normal\"\/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The first is that this is yet another Canadian commitment to Europe. I had half wondered if we\u2019d go with the Koreans if only to spread the love around a bit more. We\u2019re already spending big money on European equipment \u2014 recall the surveillance plane announcement from just a few weeks ago. I\u2019m not sure I have a problem with the choice to double-down on Europe instead of going with an Asian ally. I\u2019m not sure I have an opinion on that at all. But it is a choice, and it\u2019s one worth considering. Wiser minds than mine might have an inkling about the private thought process behind that \u2014 for now, I\u2019ll just file it under interesting. <\/p>\n<p>The second is that, as I noted here a few months ago, the Royal Canadian Navy is set to get much larger. I don\u2019t think the general public fully understands the scale of the military expansion that Canada is considering. During Stephen Harper\u2019s years in government, the Canadian fleet was four destroyers, 12 frigates, four submarines, 12 patrol ships\/minesweepers, two refuelling ships and various and sundry small support vessels. Right now, the fleet we\u2019re talking about is much larger than that \u2014 15 destroyers, as many as 20 anti-submarine corvettes, as many as 12 submarines, and two refuellers now under construction, plus the six Arctic patrol ships now in naval service. It\u2019s possible we don\u2019t order that many of each proposed project; I\u2019d go as far as saying it\u2019s likely we don\u2019t. But just for the sake of argument, let\u2019s assume we do. We\u2019re looking at a fleet of 55 large vessels in service, an increase of more than two-thirds since Harper\u2019s tenure.<\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s a gigantic increase. I think this is good and necessary, but with the army and air force looking to expand, as well \u2014 also good and necessary \u2014 we\u2019re starting to talk about a military that is a vastly larger part of Canadian fiscal planning and even society itself than we\u2019re used to. As much as I support this, and I really support this, it\u2019s going to bring very real challenges. The money is going to be hard enough. But it\u2019s also going to mean a lot more people, a lot more real estate, a much larger defence industry, and a much bigger public role for the military. A pretty small group of politicians, officers and observers like myself have started to figure this out and discuss it, mostly privately, and it\u2019s an open question how the rest of y\u2019all are going to react when the full scope of what\u2019s being discussed here really hits home in a population that hasn\u2019t thought much about the military in over 80 years.<\/p>\n<p>Last and certainly not least, it will be fascinating to see how the Americans respond. They should have no objections, for the simple reason that there was no American-made option on offer \u2014 the Americans only make nuclear submarines and Canada chose, probably wisely, to not take on the added cost and technical complexity of trying to add nuclear engineering expertise to a military that is already pretty busy effectively doubling (at least) in size. Indeed, since there\u2019s no direct loss to U.S. industry here, in theory, the U.S. should welcome this. A much larger and more capable Canadian fleet is a real win for continental security and for NATO. This should please the White House.<\/p>\n<p>But, given the White House\u2019s current occupant, who knows? It could just as easily provoke him in some way. The correct response is simply not to care. Canada should decide for itself what kind of military it wants and needs, and go out and get it. Sometimes that\u2019ll mean buying American rockets. Sometimes it\u2019ll mean Swedish AWACS and German submarines. <\/p>\n<p>But it will always mean needing to get things right at home. Adding a dozen submarines will strain the navy \u2014 and that\u2019s only one small dimension of the military expansion we are setting out on. I\u2019m excited and relieved, but not in denial about how hard this will be. No one else should be in denial, either. This will be the work of a generation. We will find out if we\u2019re up to it. <\/p>\n<p>The Line is entirely reader and advertiser funded. 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