{"id":823078,"date":"2026-07-24T12:58:08","date_gmt":"2026-07-24T12:58:08","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/823078\/"},"modified":"2026-07-24T12:58:08","modified_gmt":"2026-07-24T12:58:08","slug":"jazz-icon-herbie-hancock-remembers-takin-off-with-miles-davis","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/823078\/","title":{"rendered":"Jazz icon Herbie Hancock remembers takin\u2019 off with Miles Davis"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a style=\"display:block\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theglobeandmail.com\/resizer\/v2\/FHMKQ6DGCNHBXFD4IDJUPY5WZU.jpg?auth=4db89411458ac99577d19c858addf3902733dd2e73fef98b4f625dadab20a3f5&amp;width=600&amp;height=400&amp;quality=80&amp;smart=true\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" data-photo-viewer-index=\"0\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Open this photo in gallery:<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"figcap-text\">Herbie Hancock, the 86-year-old jazz keyboardist, plays Toronto\u2019s Massey Hall on July 26.Supplied<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">With Herbie Hancock\u2019s illustrious history as a bandleader, it\u2019s hard to think of the jazz icon as a disciple. But in 1963, after the release of his debut album, Takin\u2019 Off (which included the hit single Watermelon Man), a young Hancock joined Miles Davis\u2019s quintet and for five years was something of a mentee. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">The 86-year-old keyboardist, who plays Toronto\u2019s Massey Hall on July 26, spoke from his home in Los Angeles about working with Davis \u2212 the jazz god, and the teacher. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text mv-16 l-inset text-pb-8\" data-sophi-feature=\"interstitial\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.theglobeandmail.com\/culture\/music\/article-2026-summer-concert-preview\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">This summer\u2019s top 10 pop, rock and country concerts \u2013 plus, a little jazz and classical<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">You joined Miles Davis\u2019s group with bassist Ron Carter and drummer Tony Williams. Was Davis a mentor? Did he champion you guys? Or was he simply interested in putting together the best band he could?<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">All the above. He didn\u2019t talk much on the bandstand. But sometimes he would tell us stories about working with Charlie Parker and other musicians. It was always great when Miles was in a talkative mood. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">In what form did his mentorship take shape?<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">He cared about us. I actually never dreamed of playing with him. He was in the heavens, one of the gods. It was a few months before I realized Miles was listening to me when he played his solos. I thought I was in the background. I didn\u2019t want to get in the way of anything he was trying to play. And if you listen to some of the records I did with him, it sounded like that.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Was there a moment where you realized he was hearing you?<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">We were playing at the Village Vanguard in New York. I noticed Miles, during one of his solos, shifted his notes to work with the chord I had played. That was surprising to me. When I listened more closely, I realized he was listening to us all. Ron Carter, on his bass lines, would go down. Miles would go up. Same with Tony Williams. So, yes, Miles was listening. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Isn\u2019t there a story about you making a mistake during a concert and Miles went along with it?<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Yes, in Europe, in 1963, I think. It was on the song So What. At that point in the show, it was the best concert we\u2019d done on the tour. People were on the edge of their seats. I played the wrong chord, and I felt like I had destroyed everything we\u2019d done that night. But Miles played these notes that made my chord fit. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">How did it feel in the moment? <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">I couldn\u2019t really play anything after it happened. I was so shocked. We finished the show, but I was wondering, \u2018Is he Merlin the Magician? How did he do that?\u2019<\/p>\n<p><a style=\"display:block\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theglobeandmail.com\/resizer\/v2\/G56HHVCVWBDK5EU47XVKSAZNLE.jpg?auth=378f4fa8c3d740fd4fd630937893bb924fd5a4366425a49e0278f8d896422daf&amp;width=600&amp;height=400&amp;quality=80&amp;smart=true\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" data-photo-viewer-index=\"1\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Open this photo in gallery:<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"figcap-text\">Hancock in 2007.Kwaku Alston\/Supplied<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Was there a point when you consciously began helping younger artists? I\u2019m thinking about Wynton Marsalis in the early eighties.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">When I hired Wynton to tour with Tony, Ron and me, I wasn\u2019t thinking that way. I received a call from Columbia Records. They said they had this young trumpet player they were considering recording. They wanted me to produce the record and sent me a couple of his recordings. One of them was a double trumpet concerto he played with his trumpet teacher and an orchestra in New Orleans. It sounded fantastic.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Were Tony and Ron on board?<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">I had to convince them [laughs]. I needed their okay. I said, \u2018Look, maybe it\u2019s a chance to welcome the next generation of musicians.\u2019 Tony was young himself. They finally agreed, reluctantly. There was a tendency with Ron and Tony to feel like the connection with the three of us was our own thing. To work with Wayne Shorter or Freddie Hubbard, that was cool. But to let in somebody who was brand new, they weren\u2019t excited about doing that.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Did you audition Wynton? <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">I think we had a couple of rehearsals. It worked out well enough that Ron and Tony agreed to do the tour, which went really well. We were in Japan when Wynton called his brother [saxophonist Branford Marsalis] and asked him to come over. That\u2019s where I met him. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text mv-16 l-inset text-pb-8\" data-sophi-feature=\"interstitial\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.theglobeandmail.com\/culture\/music\/article-us-250-birthday-partisan-music-gatherings-anthems\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">As the U.S. turns 250, even the music gatherings are partisan<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Your classic instrumental Watermelon Man was successful commercially, particularly Mongo Santamar\u00eda\u2018s version in 1963. You recorded it more than once yourself. How would you record it today? <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">That\u2019s a good question. I can\u2019t answer that.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Would you hire someone to rap over it? Would you arrange and produce it differently today, to allow for contemporary tastes? <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Not necessarily. I\u2019m very used to doing things a different way, other than what\u2019s expected. I don\u2019t let convention direct my approach. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Clive Davis, who died recently, signed you to Columbia Records in the 1970s. Did you go to his funeral?<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">No, I did not. But, yes, he signed me to Columbia. I didn\u2019t have a strong relationship with him directly at that time. But I was invited to his Grammy parties since. He was a fun guy to be around. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Last question. You received the Kennedy Center Honor in 2013. What are your thoughts on what has happened to the Kennedy Center under the current Trump administration?<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">I think Trump is losing fans, and I\u2019m happy about that. The things he\u2019s said about the Obama family are atrocious. But, in a sense, I pity him. He\u2019s a sick man. I think it\u2019s difficult for him to have any understanding of what happiness is all about.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Can the Kennedy Center recover after Trump is gone?<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">I\u2019m not the one to answer that one. We can only see. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">This interview has been edited and condensed.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Open this photo in gallery: Herbie Hancock, the 86-year-old jazz keyboardist, plays Toronto\u2019s Massey Hall on July 26.Supplied&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":823079,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[32],"tags":[49,48,361,75,2922],"class_list":["post-823078","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-celebrities","tag-ca","tag-canada","tag-celebrities","tag-entertainment","tag-noastack"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/823078","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=823078"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/823078\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/823079"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=823078"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=823078"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=823078"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}