{"id":847736,"date":"2026-08-06T03:36:16","date_gmt":"2026-08-06T03:36:16","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/847736\/"},"modified":"2026-08-06T03:36:16","modified_gmt":"2026-08-06T03:36:16","slug":"qa-corient-ceo-macalpine-on-the-ria-as-a-service-partnership","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/847736\/","title":{"rendered":"Q&#038;A: Corient CEO MacAlpine on the RIA as a &#8216;Service Partnership&#8217;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">Kurt McAlpine, CEO of Miami-based Corient, attributes the firm\u2019s more than doubling its clients\u2019 assets since the start of this year to a few factors. But the most critical, in his view, is a bet he made when the Corient <a class=\"ContentText-BodyTextChunk ContentText-BodyTextChunk_link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.wealthmanagement.com\/ria-news\/ci-financial-rebrands-u-s-wealth-business\" target=\"_self\" data-discover=\"true\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">brand launched in 2020<\/a>: that an RIA should be run similarly to other professional services firms, such as legal or accounting practices, complete with partners.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">This model, in his view, eliminates internal competition among advisors for clients and assets and creates a culture of providing the client with whatever they need, no matter who provides it.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">MacAlpine has taken the model so far as to maintain a single profit-and-loss statement across the entire organization, with no \u201cchargebacks\u201d to specific teams. That P&amp;L now encompasses an RIA focused on upper-high-net-worth clients across the U.S., Canada and Europe, with more than 300 partners, about 3,000 employees and more than $556 billion in client assets.<\/p>\n<p data-component=\"related-article\" class=\"RelatedArticle\">Related:<a class=\"RelatedArticle-RelatedContent\" href=\"https:\/\/www.wealthmanagement.com\/ria-news\/edelman-prime-capital-to-settle-lawsuit-with-stipulations-on-advisor-moves\" target=\"_self\" data-discover=\"true\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">Edelman, Prime Capital To Settle Lawsuit With Stipulations on Advisor Moves<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">Wealth Management spoke to MacAlpine about this model on the heels of another deal announced Wednesday: <a class=\"ContentText-BodyTextChunk ContentText-BodyTextChunk_link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.wealthmanagement.com\/ria-news\/corient-acquires-uhnw-focused-21b-summit-trail-advisors\" target=\"_self\" data-discover=\"true\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">an agreement to acquire Summit Trail Advisors<\/a> for $21 billion.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">The following has been edited for length and clarity.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">Wealth Management: How did the conversation with Summit Trail get started? What drew you to them and them to you?<\/p>\n<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">Kurt MacAlpine: They have an incredible business. By wealth management standards, they have great scale with over $21 billion of assets, a phenomenal client base, and, probably most importantly, incredible people in the organization who have done great things for clients over a long period of time.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">In terms of what they liked about us, when I launched Corient in 2020, we put in place a unique structure from a wealth management perspective. The whole industry is oriented toward wealth managers having individual advisors or very small advisor teams that operate in silos and derive economics directly from those underlying clients.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">From our standpoint, clients are clients of the firm. We collaborate across the firm to serve clients together, so they aren\u2019t limited to one or two advisors that onboarded them to the firm for their source of expertise. Clients get access to the full weight of the capabilities of the 3,000 people who work here globally.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">[Summit Trail] was really drawn to this very differentiated way of working, which is very novel in wealth management. Think of it as a professional services partnership\u2014like a law firm or an accounting firm. I come from management consulting. It&#8217;s very different from the independent contractor, sole practitioner model in wealth management. I attribute a lot of our success to having that structure because it just filled a very meaningful void in the marketplace.<\/p>\n<p data-component=\"related-article\" class=\"RelatedArticle\">Related:<a class=\"RelatedArticle-RelatedContent\" href=\"https:\/\/www.wealthmanagement.com\/ria-news\/corient-acquires-uhnw-focused-21b-summit-trail-advisors\" target=\"_self\" data-discover=\"true\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">Corient Acquires UHNW-Focused $21B Summit Trail Advisors<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">Second was the services. They were serving very affluent clients with a broad set of services, but the service offering that we have for ultra-high-net-worth clients is unique in the industry. We have traditional wealth advisory, traditional and alternative investment management, global financial planning capabilities, global wealth transfer capabilities, global tax capabilities, global trust capabilities, a global family office with built-in outsourced CFO, customized reporting, concierge lending, we manage complex residential real estate projects, we have an aviation business where we own aircraft on behalf of clients around the world, and we have art management. That capability set is very unique, and they have the clientele that would benefit from it as well.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">The third piece was the global footprint. We\u2019re certainly the only global independent wealth manager in the space, and how we\u2019re global\u2014through one unified partnership, through one global compensation model, through one global P&amp;L\u2014allows us to serve global families in a way that banks and other institutions that are in multiple jurisdictions just can\u2019t do.<\/p>\n<p data-component=\"related-article\" class=\"RelatedArticle\">Related:<a class=\"RelatedArticle-RelatedContent\" href=\"https:\/\/www.wealthmanagement.com\/ria-news\/hightower-signature-wealth-adds-2-5b-in-aum-through-addition-of-stearns-financial-group\" target=\"_self\" data-discover=\"true\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">$2.5B Hightower Affiliate Joins Signature Wealth Division<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">WM: Summit Trail launched as part of Dynasty Financial Partners, which has been successful partly by emphasizing <a class=\"ContentText-BodyTextChunk ContentText-BodyTextChunk_link ContentText-BodyTextChunk_bold\" href=\"https:\/\/www.wealthmanagement.com\/ria-news\/ria-breakaway-openarc-on-track-for-15b-in-wealth-assets-by-year-end\" target=\"_self\" data-discover=\"true\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">independence with a strong support platform<\/a>. Were there concerns from Summit Trail about being moved into a more centralized model?<\/p>\n<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">KM: The reason I launched Corient was that I felt the entire wealth management industry was built on a fundamentally flawed structure. Advisors are, for the most part, essentially independent contractors sharing somebody\u2019s brand, somebody\u2019s technology, somebody\u2019s office space. Inside of these advisory firms, advisors can compete with one another for new clients. They can literally take clients from one another inside of the same firm, which creates a tremendous amount of isolation, not collaboration.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">Secondly, to the extent that any of these firms have family office services or other services that extend beyond what the advisors do, they act as a cost center to the advisors, which creates friction from an adoption standpoint for clients.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">The third piece: the whole advisory industry is oriented toward advisors making money by doing two things\u2014generating revenue and commissions from their clients, and then hoarding those revenues and commissions to themselves. Because if you generate a lot of revenue and commissions and you share it with 70 people, or 20 people, or five people, you make a lot less than if you keep it for yourself.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">My view was, if your advisors have tension with one another, your advisors and front office have tension, and your advisors and middle and back office have tension because people that support the advisors are paid on different metrics\u2014the clients are the big loser. The clients\u2019 experience with any one of those firms that operate that way is marginalized down to the individual that onboarded them to the firm. It\u2019s a suboptimal experience, and certainly not giving them access to the best of any organization.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">I think the second big loser is actually the employees, because the employees are effectively independents working on a platform. They\u2019re not working in a company with a culture and financial alignment across the organization, with career development and opportunities.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">WM: Do you get questions from advisors about whether your model will return to the wirehouse days?<\/p>\n<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">KM: We\u2019re nothing like a wirehouse on any dimension. Our whole view is that we want to be the best in the world at serving ultra-high-net-worth clients. We believe that we can do that by having the expertise of 3,000 people shared to serve those clients directly and indirectly.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">We have one compensation plan globally. Everybody\u2019s paid the same way. I have zero exceptions. I run one P&amp;L firm-wide, and I do absolutely no chargebacks. The reason for that is I want to make sure all of those resources and sources of expertise flow to clients directly without any sort of friction.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">I launched the business in April of 2020 with $50 billion of assets. Today, we\u2019re at $550 billion and continuing to grow. I attribute much of that success to the underlying structural piece. It\u2019s because we tend to be somebody\u2019s first choice who believes we can do more working together to serve clients, or we\u2019re somebody\u2019s last choice if they say, \u201cI&#8217;m just looking for the next commission grid.\u201d It\u2019s just not our model.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">WM: Why do you think now is the time to have an independent wealth management firm that is global\u2014in the U.K., Europe, Canada, the U.S.? We haven\u2019t really seen this before, and there are as of now only <a class=\"ContentText-BodyTextChunk ContentText-BodyTextChunk_link ContentText-BodyTextChunk_bold\" href=\"https:\/\/www.wealthmanagement.com\/mergers-acquisitions\/sources-creative-planning-has-agreed-to-buy-uk-based-ria\" target=\"_self\" data-discover=\"true\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">a few other large RIAs<\/a> active in this market.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">KM: There are a tremendous number of trends that would support the need for global advice. More wealth is being created today more than ever. It\u2019s being created faster than ever. It\u2019s more concentrated than ever. It\u2019s changing hands faster than we\u2019ve ever seen, and it&#8217;s globalizing faster than ever. The notion of this wealth being global creates an inherent amount of underlying complexity that magnifies the need for financial advice.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">With that being said, I believe outside of Corient, there aren\u2019t any other truly global wealth managers that exist. Banks operate in other jurisdictions, but my view would be they are absolutely multi-jurisdictional. Being multi-jurisdictional and being global are not the same thing.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">Multi-jurisdictional would mean that you have local silos, local P&amp;Ls, local compensation plans. Just take the bank model as an example. Let\u2019s say you\u2019re a billion-dollar client at a bank that has a global footprint, and you have assets in four different countries, and you\u2019re going to consolidate all of your assets here in the United States.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">What happens in practice is three regional P&amp;Ls from that client go to zero, three advisors serving those clients see their pay go to zero because there\u2019s no revenue, and one advisor in the U.S. quadruples the assets that they manage and becomes the ultimate beneficiary. That set of circumstances does not set people up well for collaboration because it\u2019s zero-sum.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">In our model, when we have a client across four jurisdictions that wants to consolidate assets, every single person here who\u2019s a partner is in the same equity. So, if a client picks up and says, \u201cI\u2019m consolidating all of my assets in Florida or New York,\u201d it doesn\u2019t matter. Every single person who was part of the team before is equally relevant to the team going forward. There\u2019s no incremental compensation for the person where the assets are being domiciled, and there\u2019s no negative compensation or consequences for the people who are serving the family. It\u2019s effectively business as usual.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">WM: What made you decide to go for <a class=\"ContentText-BodyTextChunk ContentText-BodyTextChunk_link ContentText-BodyTextChunk_bold\" href=\"https:\/\/www.wealthmanagement.com\/ria-news\/corient-tops-500b-in-client-assets-after-completing-u-k-acquisitions\" target=\"_self\" data-discover=\"true\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">both U.K.-based firms Stonehage Fleming and Stanhope Capital Group<\/a> at the same time, as opposed to building more slowly?<\/p>\n<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">KM: When we went global, we bought the largest and the second-largest independent ultra-high-net-worth wealth managers on the same day. That was important because when you\u2019re going global, I think the mistake that a lot of folks make is that they establish a presence in multiple jurisdictions but don&#8217;t actually build any relevant scale. In our industry, all your scale comes locally. We wanted the scale to overwhelm the complexity so you can actually do amazing things for clients as opposed to being burdened by the complexity.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">We did these two acquisitions, and now that we have the local scale, the multi-jurisdictional capabilities, and the partnership, we\u2019ve announced two more acquisitions in Europe: an $11 billion business and a $5 billion business\u2014one in Geneva, one in Paris. I think there\u2019s more to come for us.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">Strategically, we built it brick by brick, market by market in the U.S., because the U.S. lends itself to that\u2014one regulator, one language, four primary time zones. Internationally, it\u2019s harder to do. You need the scale and the multi-jurisdictional capabilities to start, and then you can start to go market by market, which is what we\u2019ve started to do.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">WM: What happens to CI Financial now in Canada? Is there a way that maybe Corient becomes the key flagship brand?<\/p>\n<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">KM: CI and Corient are actually separate companies. CI Financial is a Canadian asset manager and a Canadian wealth manager focused effectively on the mass affluent or broader clientele. Corient is a global, ultra-high-net-worth-focused wealth manager.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">Corient is in Canada serving ultra-high-net-worth families. CI Financial has a wealth business serving a different segment. So they actually serve different segments with a different structure and a different value proposition. They\u2019re not really competitors per se. They\u2019re just playing very distinct segments of the market.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">WM: How is it working with <a class=\"ContentText-BodyTextChunk ContentText-BodyTextChunk_link ContentText-BodyTextChunk_bold\" href=\"https:\/\/www.wealthmanagement.com\/wealth-management-industry-trends\/abu-dhabi-s-mubadala-to-take-ci-financial-private-in-3-4b-deal\" target=\"_self\" data-discover=\"true\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">Mubadala Capital on these deals<\/a>? You seem to be very well capitalized and able to pull these off. Are they at the table with you?<\/p>\n<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">KM: They\u2019ve been amazing. We\u2019ve more than doubled the size of the firm since January, and they\u2019ve been incredible partners as part of the journey. They believed and saw the potential of the business, hence the desire to partner with us to take the company private.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">We\u2019re very uniquely positioned here as well because this is permanent strategic capital. Our industry, as you know, is rife with private equity, which by definition is temporary capital. If you\u2019re taking a forever time horizon to build a business, it\u2019s very different than a two-to-four-year time horizon. I feel very privileged to have partnered with them, and the work that we\u2019ve been able to do together with their support has been great. I think there\u2019s a lot more to come.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">From my standpoint, a permanent strategic capital partner is the absolute best capital partner because you\u2019re totally aligned on building this business forever. Corient is technically a freestanding private partnership owned and operated by the partners with a great institutional partner and shareholder. That\u2019s very different than dealing with finding a new sponsor every 24 to 36 months. You think about and run the business differently, and I feel like we\u2019re very privileged to have a partner like them to do it.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Kurt McAlpine, CEO of Miami-based Corient, attributes the firm\u2019s more than doubling its clients\u2019 assets since the start&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":847737,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[14],"tags":[45,49,48,133,131,132],"class_list":["post-847736","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-personal-finance","tag-business","tag-ca","tag-canada","tag-finance","tag-personal-finance","tag-personalfinance"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/847736","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=847736"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/847736\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/847737"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=847736"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=847736"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=847736"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}