{"id":868799,"date":"2026-08-23T18:12:14","date_gmt":"2026-08-23T18:12:14","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/868799\/"},"modified":"2026-08-23T18:12:14","modified_gmt":"2026-08-23T18:12:14","slug":"inside-the-cockpit-of-air-transat-236-with-the-pilot-who-saved-the-flight-from-a-near-crash","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/868799\/","title":{"rendered":"Inside the cockpit of Air Transat 236 with the pilot who saved the flight from a near-crash"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">On Aug. 24, 2001, Air Transat Flight 236 ran out of fuel over the Atlantic Ocean on its way from Toronto to Lisbon. At the controls was Robert Pich\u00e9, a 48-year-old Quebecker with a cool temperament and a past he was desperate to keep secret. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Driven by adrenaline and an instinct to survive, Mr. Pich\u00e9 steered the powerless A330 airliner for 19 minutes to the nearest piece of land. The plane touched down at the Lajes military air base on the island of Terceira, in the Azores, roughly 1,400 kilometres west of Portugal. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">All 293 passengers and 13 crew members survived, and Mr. Pich\u00e9 was hailed as a hero. To this day, it\u2019s still the longest glide by a passenger jet. <\/p>\n<p>      Landing this Airbus 330 in the Azores made Robert Pich\u00e9 famous. The next year, he and first officer Dirk de Jager got superior airmanship awards from the Airline Pilots Association.<\/p>\n<p>          AFP\/Getty Images; Evan Vucci\/AP<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">With the fame came momentary dishonour when reporters dug up his personal history and published the details. After an early career as a bush pilot, Mr. Pich\u00e9 fell into drug smuggling. In 1983, after a run from Jamaica, he was caught in an airfield in Georgia, U.S., with cannabis in his cargo hold. He was sentenced to five years in a Georgia prison and served 16 months \u2013 an experience he now says is directly tied to the outcome of Flight 236. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Mr. Pich\u00e9 also struggled with long-term dependency on alcohol. In 2007, 10 years before he retired from Air Transat, he created a foundation to support treatment for people with addictions, helping them fight the same demons that nearly tore him down. He also began giving motivational talks. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">When I caught up to Mr. Pich\u00e9 in Mont Tremblant, Que., in July, I found a man at peace with his past, but still speaking with surprising rawness and candour. Wearing a pink T-shirt, grey shorts and sandals, his hair now silver and slicked back, he urged me to write a story \u201cwith a view of inspiring people.\u201d We\u2019ll leave that to him. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Here\u2019s what the aviation legend had to say, with a few notes of our own. <\/p>\n<p><a style=\"display:block\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theglobeandmail.com\/resizer\/v2\/MJA5JQSUXRGWVBUMSTS5D7RDMU.JPG?auth=b4f9696780f43e3c00c9222400418b4e70343bf4350d45670462c0fb4772457b&amp;width=600&amp;height=400&amp;quality=80&amp;smart=true\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" data-photo-viewer-index=\"0\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Open this photo in gallery:<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"figcap-text\">Pearson airport in 2001. Then as now, Air Transat was based at Terminal 3.Tibor Kolley\/The Globe and Mail<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">At 00:52 UTC (8:52 local time) on Aug. 24, 2001, an Air Transat Airbus A330 departs from Toronto Pearson International Airport bound for Lisbon. On board are 293 passengers and 13 crew members, including Captain Pich\u00e9 and First Officer Dirk de Jager, 28. The plane is loaded with about 47 tonnes of fuel \u2013 4.5 tonnes more than the regulated amount required for the planned flight. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">How did that day begin?<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">I had flown into Toronto and was assigned the flight to Lisbon \u2013 it\u2019s all done by computer. I tried to get someone else to take it because my wife\u2019s friend was getting married and we were invited. But it didn\u2019t work out. We were supposed to stay two days in Lisbon and then fly back. It started like any other flight. It was routine.<\/p>\n<p>\t\t<img decoding=\"async\" id=\"gi-0822-rb-cd-transat236-2-mobile-small-img\" class=\"gi-aiImg gi-aiAbs\" src=\"https:\/\/www.theglobeandmail.com\/files\/edt-uploads\/graphics\/ai2html\/2026\/0822-rb-cd-transat236-2\/0822-rb-cd-transat236-2-mobile-small.jpg?token=1\" bad-src=\"data:image\/gif;base64,R0lGODlhCgAKAIAAAB8fHwAAACH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAAKAAoAAAIIhI+py+0PYysAOw==\"\/><\/p>\n<p>When an Air Transat Airbus A330\u2019s engines flamed out over the Atlantic because of a fuel leak on Aug. 24, 2001, its survival partly depended on a set of aviation rules called ETOPS.* Throughout its route, a plane with twin engines must be close enough to emergency diversion airports that it can get to one in a fixed time, even if an engine were disabled. For the Air Transat flight, the limit was 120 minutes. However, for a large portion of the time, they were within one hour of land. Without ETOPS, a plane might choose a more direct route that could still strand them in danger if something went wrong. <\/p>\n<p class=\"gi-pstyle2\">Engines: 2 Rolls-Royce <\/p>\n<p class=\"gi-pstyle2\">Trent 772B-60<\/p>\n<p class=\"gi-pstyle7\">*Extended-range Twin-engine Operational Performance Standards. **Current livery.<\/p>\n<p class=\"gi-pstyle8\">john sopinski\/the globe and mail <\/p>\n<p class=\"gi-pstyle8\">Source: faa; air transat image<\/p>\n<p>\t\t<img decoding=\"async\" id=\"gi-0822-rb-cd-transat236-2-mobile-large-img\" class=\"gi-aiImg gi-aiAbs\" src=\"https:\/\/www.theglobeandmail.com\/files\/edt-uploads\/graphics\/ai2html\/2026\/0822-rb-cd-transat236-2\/0822-rb-cd-transat236-2-mobile-large.jpg?token=1\" bad-src=\"data:image\/gif;base64,R0lGODlhCgAKAIAAAB8fHwAAACH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAAKAAoAAAIIhI+py+0PYysAOw==\"\/><\/p>\n<p>When an Air Transat Airbus A330\u2019s engines flamed out over the Atlantic because of a fuel leak on Aug. 24, 2001, its survival partly depended on a set of aviation rules called ETOPS.* Throughout its route, a plane with twin engines must be close enough to emergency diversion airports that it can get to one in a fixed time, even if an engine were disabled. For the Air Transat flight, the limit was 120 minutes. However, for a large portion of the time, they were within one hour of land. Without ETOPS, a plane might choose a more direct route that could still strand them in danger if something went wrong. <\/p>\n<p class=\"gi-pstyle2\">Engines: 2 Rolls-Royce <\/p>\n<p class=\"gi-pstyle2\">Trent 772B-60<\/p>\n<p class=\"gi-pstyle7\">*Extended-range Twin-engine Operational Performance <\/p>\n<p class=\"gi-pstyle7\">Standards. **Current livery.<\/p>\n<p class=\"gi-pstyle8\">john sopinski\/the globe and mail ,Source: faa; air transat image<\/p>\n<p>\t\t<img decoding=\"async\" id=\"gi-0822-rb-cd-transat236-2-desktop-img\" class=\"gi-aiImg gi-aiAbs\" src=\"https:\/\/www.theglobeandmail.com\/files\/edt-uploads\/graphics\/ai2html\/2026\/0822-rb-cd-transat236-2\/0822-rb-cd-transat236-2-desktop.jpg?token=1\" bad-src=\"data:image\/gif;base64,R0lGODlhCgAKAIAAAB8fHwAAACH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAAKAAoAAAIIhI+py+0PYysAOw==\"\/><\/p>\n<p>When an Air Transat Airbus A330\u2019s engines flamed out over the Atlantic because of a fuel leak on Aug. 24, 2001, its survival partly depended on a set of aviation rules called ETOPS.* Throughout its route, a plane with twin engines must be close enough to emergency diversion airports that it can get to one in a fixed time, even if an engine were disabled. For the Air Transat flight, the limit was 120 minutes. However, for a large portion of the time, they were within one hour of land. Without ETOPS, a plane might choose a more direct route that could still strand them in danger if something went wrong. <\/p>\n<p class=\"gi-pstyle7\">Engines: 2 Rolls-Royce <\/p>\n<p class=\"gi-pstyle7\">Trent 772B-60<\/p>\n<p>*Extended-range Twin-engine Operational Performance Standards. **Current livery.<\/p>\n<p class=\"gi-pstyle9\">john sopinski\/the globe and mail ,Source: faa; air transat image<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Nearly four hours after takeoff, at 4:38, a component swapped in at the last minute causes a fuel line on the plane\u2019s borrowed right Rolls-Royce engine to crack. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">The engine begins to leak fuel at a rate of 13 tonnes an hour into the Atlantic Ocean.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Around 5:00, during a mandatory position check, the crew notices unusual engine oil indications on the right engine.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">What was the initial problem?<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">It started with the oil pressure and temperature. The readings didn\u2019t make sense. If I was a mechanic, I might have understood. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">But given that this was something that happens so rarely, even a mechanic might not have figured out the problem right away. The computer system was showing us a fuel imbalance instead of a leak. <\/p>\n<p><a style=\"display:block\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theglobeandmail.com\/resizer\/v2\/42YQ4CPP4RDGVFIUKEN6UM7TBA.JPG?auth=1bbd6d3bfc60ae58f32752f112e6cc3a4d4549fd8c4472fb33fa40ad4ce6bff4&amp;width=600&amp;height=400&amp;quality=80&amp;smart=true\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" data-photo-viewer-index=\"1\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Open this photo in gallery:<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"figcap-text\">Portuguese officials inspect the A330 a few days after its landing in Lajes. Both engines were starved of fuel over the Atlantic.Humberta Augusto\/The Associated Press<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">At 05:33, an advisory flashes on screen, and Mr. Pich\u00e9 and Mr. de Jager note a fuel imbalance between the two engines. They transfer fuel from the left engine to the right, a procedure Mr. Pich\u00e9 performs from memory. Twelve minutes later, the plane has 8,500 kilograms less fuel than it should \u2013 not enough to reach Lisbon. The crew radioes local air traffic control that it\u2019s short of fuel and diverting to tiny Lajes. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Mr. Pich\u00e9 has logged 16,800 flight hours, Mr. de Jager 4,800. In all that time, neither of the pilots has ever encountered a fuel leak or unexplained low-fuel reading before, either in training or while in the air.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">You were never able to confirm that there was a leak, were you?<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">No. I was thinking that this couldn\u2019t be happening in the middle of the ocean, on the most sophisticated commercial airliner flying at the time. It didn\u2019t make any sense. We should have understood that there was a leak. But the computer \u2013 that\u2019s not what it was telling us. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">When an advisory warning flashes, you don\u2019t want the fuel page to come up. The pressurization page, the heating system, the electrical, the hydraulics, maybe. But not fuel. You\u2019re in the middle of the ocean. You try to process that as the captain, but your human side says, \u201cToday, we\u2019re going to die.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">People sometimes think I wasn\u2019t scared because I landed the plane. But that\u2019s not the case. When the fuel page came up, I was scared right away. <\/p>\n<p><a style=\"display:block\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theglobeandmail.com\/resizer\/v2\/FYCGLGGRSJBCFAVJYHOJ7GWQAI.JPG?auth=a9d3319afad662282cb116f0b98d5a681aba171d3c3a49855c437c6163a48db3&amp;width=600&amp;height=400&amp;quality=80&amp;smart=true\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" data-photo-viewer-index=\"2\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Open this photo in gallery:<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"figcap-text\">Meleni Tesic, at right with Mr. de Jager and Mr. Pich\u00e9 in 2001, managed the cabin crew on Flight 236.Paul Chiasson\/The Canadian Press<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Around 5:45, the pilots ask the cabin crew \u2013 led by flight director Meleni Tesic \u2013 to visually check the wings and engines for a possible fuel leak. As the passengers watch the in-flight movie, Chocolat, a member of the crew shines a flashlight toward the wing. But it\u2019s pitch-dark outside. They see nothing. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">If it had been a daytime flight, would the flight attendants have seen the leak?<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">The passenger sitting behind the right engine would have seen the leak and pressed that call button \u2013 ding dong. That kind of observation has saved me in the past, while I was flying on the Lockheed L-1011. We had a double leg, and during one stop, a passenger pointed out to the flight director that something on the wing wasn\u2019t right. One of the airbrakes was detached. If it weren\u2019t for him, we might have flown on. That passenger did us a favour.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">So if a passenger on 236 had seen the leak, I would have sent the first officer to check. Then we would have done the procedure for a loss of fuel.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">The accident report found that you didn\u2019t follow the fuel-check protocol.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Yes, I was blamed for that.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Did you agree with that conclusion?<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Yes and no. I\u2019m an old dinosaur. Young people today would probably react differently, because they rely on computers 100 per cent. I come from an older system. I didn\u2019t come into this world with an iPad in my hands. Like many people in my generation, I had to learn to use computers.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">The report also says that if you had accepted the premise that the plane was spilling fuel, then according to the protocol, you would have to descend to 20,000 feet. But at that altitude, you weren\u2019t sure you\u2019d have enough fuel to get much further, since aircraft burn more fuel at lower altitudes. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">If I had followed that procedure, we would all be dead. The first officer was telling me the procedure. But I said \u201cno, no, no.\u201d In that situation, altitude becomes my fuel.<\/p>\n<p>      Based on the Portuguese island of Terceira, the Lajes air base is still used today by U.S. military aircraft, who find the Azores a convenient place to refuel on transatlantic flights.<\/p>\n<p>          AFP\/Getty Images; Evan Vucci\/AP<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">At 6:13, the plane\u2019s fuel-starved right engine flames out. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Ten minutes later, Mr. de Jager declares \u201cmayday.\u201d At 6:26, with Flight 236 still 120 kilometres away from Lajes, at an altitude of roughly 34,500 feet, the left engine shuts down, too. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Inside the cabin, the lights go out and everything goes silent, except for the sound of air buffeting the fuselage. \u201cWe\u2019re going to die,\u201d one passenger screams.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">What was it like in the cockpit?<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">It was calm, but we were both on edge. The prospect of dying was there. De Jager was more closed off. He was 28 and already a co-pilot on an A330. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Were you aware of what was happening in the cabin?<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">No. We have a communications protocol \u2013 the flight director is in charge back there. And when we have a problem in the cockpit, it\u2019s them we advise. Then, the flight director advises the other flight attendants and the passengers. At the start, the briefing I gave to the director was that she prepare the cabin for a ditching at sea. That was the worst-case scenario. Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst.<\/p>\n<p><a style=\"display:block\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theglobeandmail.com\/resizer\/v2\/KBQ4CJ3RXBCPTOAPLWP3FL2ENM.JPG?auth=f4fa6f38a40db818abb4194c055eacb376f2fe20059adadb7e0e466378c5aaa6&amp;width=600&amp;height=400&amp;quality=80&amp;smart=true\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" data-photo-viewer-index=\"3\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Open this photo in gallery:<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"figcap-text\">&#8216;It was calm, but we were both on edge. The prospect of dying was there,&#8217; Mr. Pich\u00e9 says of the mood in the cockpit in 2001.Selena Phillips-Boyle\/The Globe and Mail<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Meanwhile, in the cabin, passengers alternately gasp, scream and pray. Oxygen masks drop from the ceiling. Through tears, a Portuguese-speaking flight attendant delivers an announcement telling passengers to prepare for an ocean landing. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Some passengers described a lot of screaming. You didn\u2019t hear that? <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">No. You\u2019re focused pretty hard in the moment. You know, when you get into, I\u2019ll call it the zone, you\u2019re in a bubble. It\u2019s a high level of concentration. Everything kind of slowed down. It\u2019s adrenaline, survival instinct. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">What was going on in your head when the second engine stopped? <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">I remember lowering my head and saying, \u2018This can\u2019t be happening.\u2019 Through hard work and determination, I had gotten back to being the captain of a big jet, which I should have been long before I went to prison. I\u2019m on the most sophisticated plane you can fly, and it\u2019s now a glider over the Atlantic, at night, with 306 passengers on board. This can\u2019t be happening. \u2018Why me?\u2019 you know?<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">And when I raised my head, I saw that the plane was reacting well. That\u2019s when I decided to keep my altitude as long as possible. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">How do you maintain altitude without engines?<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">You play with the stall warning. When a plane has no power and you keep it level, it loses speed. And when it loses speed, it will stall. So when there was a warning, I\u2019d drop the nose a little bit to keep one or two knots faster than the warning. It didn\u2019t allow me to keep the plane level, but we didn\u2019t descend fast. Bit by bit, the adrenaline was increasing. Because you tell yourself, \u2018I\u2019m not going to crash in the water. I\u2019m going to get to the island.\u2019 And then it became, \u2018At worst, I\u2019m going to land in a field on the island.\u2019 It was a gradual realization that I\u2019d be able to get to the airstrip. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">How do you control a dead stick? <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">A journalist once asked Tiger Woods how he could win tournaments with one stroke. He said, \u2018On competition weekends, when I\u2019m able to get in the zone, it\u2019s like I become my club.\u2019 Meaning that when he hits the ball, he knows exactly where it\u2019s going to go because his state of concentration is at its maximum. He\u2019s focused on nothing else. So it\u2019s not something you know or you don\u2019t know. I became the plane. Do you understand? <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">At a certain moment, you saw the runway at Lajes.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">The first thing we did was ask the control tower to flash the runway lights. So I could see the island, just a little sliver of light. When I knew I\u2019d get to the airport, it became like one more landing, like the kind I\u2019d been doing for 30 years.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">You circled once before landing.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">We did a 360. That was to calm my first officer \u2013 I didn\u2019t want him to jump on the controls. He kept telling me, \u2018We\u2019re too high, too fast.\u2019 But he didn\u2019t know what was going on in my head. I wanted to be too high, too fast, so that I could keep some speed and altitude in case I needed it. From his perspective, landing a normal plane in normal conditions, he could see that we were too high. His reaction was normal. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">But he did his job, which is to follow orders. That\u2019s what you learn in the simulator. I always give him an honourable mention because he did what he needed to do. I don\u2019t know if I would have done the same thing in his place, flying with a guy I barely knew. I think I would have jumped on the controls.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">I thought you circled to get lower for landing.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">That\u2019s what we do normally when we arrive at an airport, and we\u2019re too high and too fast. A big plane is like a 28-wheeler on the road. It doesn\u2019t stop like a Volkswagen stops. You\u2019ve got to slow down. You\u2019ve got to be in the slot. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">But were you too high and too fast?<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">For sure \u2013 I had to be. You can\u2019t be too low and too slow. As a captain of a big jet, you\u2019re always 100 miles ahead of your plane. You\u2019ve always got to be planning further ahead. Even if the chances are 90 per cent that you\u2019ll land, you\u2019ve got to prepare for the 10 per cent. You can\u2019t be caught with your pants down at the last minute.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">What could you see out the window? <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">It was still dark. You have to be at the right place at the right time at the right speed. But my speed was too high to keep the nose up and not stall. So I didn\u2019t know when I needed to lose altitude, when I should go down. My concern was lowering the wheels. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">The gear doors open, the wheels come down and the door shuts again. But this time, the doors didn\u2019t close, and that would produce drag. So I\u2019d need to come down 2,000 feet per minute to keep my speed and not stall. If I wasn\u2019t high enough, I\u2019d crash 500 feet before the runway. That\u2019s why I wanted to keep my altitude. My worry was the wheels. <\/p>\n<p><a style=\"display:block\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theglobeandmail.com\/resizer\/v2\/3GDIRLQGORGOXO4TALRDJNYVZQ.JPG?auth=3ebf1834c3bab233aecf0740b5be76a2cc875125fbb0f0aaaf4871414efff005&amp;width=600&amp;height=400&amp;quality=80&amp;smart=true\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" data-photo-viewer-index=\"4\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Open this photo in gallery:<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"figcap-text\">Passengers had to hurry down the emergency slides in Lajes, in case the plane exploded on the tarmac.Humberta Augusto\/The Associated Press<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">At 6:45, the planes hits the Lajes runway hard, at roughly 370 kilometres an hour, and bounces once. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Passengers are pitched forward as the plane scrapes and grinds to a stop. Some of them begin to cheer and applaud, until the crew starts rushing them toward the exit slides \u2013 there\u2019s a fear the aircraft could explode on the ground. But when several small fires ignite near the landing gear, they\u2019re immediately extinguished by crash responders. During the evacuation, 16 passengers and two members of the cabin crew are injured. As for the plane, it shows signs of structural damage to the fuselage and main landing gear.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">So when you landed, you bounced, and almost all the tires exploded.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Yes. The wind was coming from the side, and in a big plane like that, when the wind hits from the side, it tends to move. So you\u2019ve got to put it down, touch the wheels, stay in the middle of the runway. All of that is complicated, but it happens fast. And that\u2019s where experience counts. When I bounced once, I said, \u2018I\u2019m going to brake on the rebound so the plane sticks.\u2019 As soon as the plane touched down again, I braked. That prevented another bounce, and the tires exploded.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">You\u2019ve said prison helped you in that moment. How?<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Day and night, you\u2019re dealing with the possibility of a physical attack, a sexual attack. And you can\u2019t let on that you\u2019re bothered by it, either. You\u2019ve got to stay cool, because if you don\u2019t look cool, you become vulnerable. You\u2019ve always got to be ready. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">When you landed, you high-fived your first officer.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Yes, and I said, \u2018I told you we would land it.\u2019 That\u2019s easier to say after the fact than before. <\/p>\n<p><a style=\"display:block\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theglobeandmail.com\/resizer\/v2\/5DMOR6GKIZFPHJTO3SUCLUNW4U.jpg?auth=9283be4f0da8e1f18f2f4345bb64e1cfeb3480d8ee53e6bc532dc9b2818f9075&amp;width=600&amp;height=400&amp;quality=80&amp;smart=true\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" data-photo-viewer-index=\"5\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Open this photo in gallery:<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"figcap-text\">All 293 passengers and 13 crew members survived their glide to Lajes, where they continued the journey to Lisbon via a ferry and another flight.Humberta Augusto\/The Associated Press<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">The dazed passengers stumble into the tiny Lajes terminal, where they wait for several hours before being offered beds in the nearby U.S. Air Force barracks. Before long, they\u2019re shuttled to the ferry docks, where a five-hour boat ride delivers them to another airport, from where they\u2019re taken to Lisbon. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Mr. Pich\u00e9 is the last person to leave the plane.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">You received no training for this type of situation.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Correct. Now, I think they have a protocol for something like that. With my past as an offender, I didn\u2019t follow procedure \u2013 not because I\u2019m better than someone else or smarter. It\u2019s that I had this survival instinct I developed in prison.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Do you think there\u2019s too much trust in technology now and not enough credence given to pilot instinct?<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">That\u2019s not for me to say. But I will say that the young first officers I flew with at the end of my career were highly trusting of electronics. Today, it\u2019s about minimizing human decision-making to minimize human error. The statistics tell the tale. In the 1950s, when commercial aviation started, crashes were higher. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Flying a plane when everything is going well, any penguin can do that with a bit of experience. But you\u2019re always waiting for what could happen. And that pending problem happened to me. Being captain of a big jet is a big responsibility. And technology is maybe stripping away that side of it.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">What do you say to people who ask why Robert Pich\u00e9 pushed the transfer valve that shifted the fuel to the leaking side of the plane?<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Because he\u2019s an old dinosaur. I learned how to fly on the job. When I started to work in aviation, there was no formal training. The boss said to me, \u2018Get in, and we\u2019ll show you how it works.\u2019 So you develop reflexes that someone with structured training, good training, who starts flying right away at Air Canada, might never have.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">But do you accept the criticism that your decision to hit that switch worsened the situation?<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Of course. If I didn\u2019t have that side to me, I should have understood that it was a fuel leak and shut down that engine. <\/p>\n<p><a style=\"display:block\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theglobeandmail.com\/resizer\/v2\/U6Y5DVA3LJEBPABI7DLGUK6MKA.JPG?auth=571b2240b18abb1234bdaf63aef2c4d339684adf89b1a384ce25cd1ecb9ce234&amp;width=600&amp;height=400&amp;quality=80&amp;smart=true\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" data-photo-viewer-index=\"6\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Open this photo in gallery:<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"figcap-text\">David Collenette, federal transport minister at the time of the fuel leak, would announce a $250,000 fine against the airline for improper maintenance.Kevin Frayer\/The Canadian Press<\/p>\n<p><a style=\"display:block\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theglobeandmail.com\/resizer\/v2\/B3ET3AP75ZH4LOHGA3L2YJNYCU.JPG?auth=29e1751be50eb7e23b85475ecad2c2f9da6a2d3d2b4a23e6556bf8e46db0c5ae&amp;width=600&amp;height=400&amp;quality=80&amp;smart=true\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" data-photo-viewer-index=\"7\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Open this photo in gallery:<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"figcap-text\">Under CEO Denis Jacob, Air Transat would co-operate with a three-year-long accident investigation.Marcos Townsend\/The Canadian Press<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">The accident investigation \u2013 led by the Portuguese flight authority and assisted by the Transportation Safety Board, Transport Canada, Air Transat and engine maker Rolls-Royce \u2013 took more than three years to complete. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">It found that several factors contributed to the accident, including a maintenance error by the airline. The report recommended improvements to the leak-detection systems on board all A330 aircraft, along with improved checklists, flight manuals, pilot training, as well as the procedures and regulations governing the replacement of major components. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">As for the crew, the report found that they failed to correctly evaluate the situation and follow procedure for a fuel leak. Nonetheless, it noted that Mr. Pich\u00e9\u2019s skill averted a full-on disaster and saved all 306 lives on board.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Do you think a lot about Flight 236 these days?<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">I don\u2019t have to think about it \u2013 I get asked about it constantly. People on the street, everywhere. It\u2019s been going on for 25 years. I do corporate conferences. We do no publicity for these and people still come. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">And what\u2019s your message?<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">It\u2019s about stress management, handling adversity. How do you make a decision when you know you\u2019re going to die? It\u2019s like in the army; the sergeant who says, \u2018We\u2019re going through the wall. And there\u2019s gunfire on all sides, but don\u2019t worry, we\u2019ll make it.\u2019 How do you follow the sergeant? Because he also believes it, because of his experience, adrenaline \u2013 all of that mixed together.<\/p>\n<p><a style=\"display:block\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theglobeandmail.com\/resizer\/v2\/DV5RZOL2VNA77HTL4OLZWZAWJY.jpg?auth=352e4d014a1c23eec24abf343ae802b36004cf0c93cbe50df89e477d99c25571&amp;width=600&amp;height=400&amp;quality=80&amp;smart=true\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" data-photo-viewer-index=\"8\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Open this photo in gallery:<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"figcap-text\">Quebec&#8217;s legislature gave Mr. Pich\u00e9 a medal of honour for his actions in 2002.Jacques Boissinot\/The Canadian Press<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">You said you often ask the question \u2018Why me?\u2019 Have you ever come to an answer?<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">I think it was maybe I was chosen. Why did this not happen to someone who had a more normal past? I\u2019m in anonymous associations a lot because I was an alcoholic. It\u2019s been 24 years. At AA, the worst of those who are there are airline captains. What happened on Flight 236 gives some credibility to my words, to help alcoholics. That\u2019s a piece of the answer. If this hadn\u2019t happened, I\u2019d probably be dead from alcohol. The way I drank was nuts, you know? This was a chance to reclaim what I did in the U.S. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">And I didn\u2019t follow protocol in the sky. But as I said, altitude became my fuel. I knew I was going against the industry, especially against Airbus and their procedures. I knew I was David against Goliath. But it wasn\u2019t them sitting in the cockpit. 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