{"id":886592,"date":"2026-09-07T10:08:19","date_gmt":"2026-09-07T10:08:19","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/886592\/"},"modified":"2026-09-07T10:08:19","modified_gmt":"2026-09-07T10:08:19","slug":"sad-to-see-jensen-huang-claim-that-agi-has-arrived-with-no-evidence-and-no-definitions","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/886592\/","title":{"rendered":"Sad to see Jensen Huang claim that AGI has arrived, with no evidence and no definitions"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>A couple hours ago Jensen Huang declared that the race to AGI is over. <\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/$s_!vbW1!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F608d4701-6c7b-40ee-9842-aecc96614901_1226x584.png\" data-component-name=\"Image2ToDOM\" class=\"image-link image2 is-viewable-img can-restack\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/https:\/\/substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com\/public\/images\/608d4701-6c7b-40ee-9842-aecc96614901_1226.jpeg\" width=\"1226\" height=\"584\" data-attrs=\"{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https:\/\/substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com\/public\/images\/608d4701-6c7b-40ee-9842-aecc96614901_1226x584.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:584,&quot;width&quot;:1226,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:98085,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image\/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:true,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https:\/\/garymarcus.substack.com\/i\/214490216?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F608d4701-6c7b-40ee-9842-aecc96614901_1226x584.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}\" alt=\"\"   fetchpriority=\"high\" class=\"sizing-normal\"\/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Unfortunately, Huang gave no evidence and no definitions, which feels to me like an effort at a takeover of a scientific question by corporate fiat.<\/p>\n<p>I would urge him to read <a href=\"https:\/\/www.agidefinition.ai\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">agidefinition.AI<\/a> by Hendrycks, Yoshua Bengio &amp; many others (including myself), and to consider how Astra is doing on the kinds of examples I laid out in my 10 -item <a href=\"https:\/\/garymarcus.substack.com\/p\/where-will-ai-be-at-the-end-of-2027?r=8tdk6&amp;utm_medium=ios\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">bet with Brundage<\/a>. Autoformalization may finally be in reach, and maybe (?) reliable coding; I doubt that Astra will have hit any of the other eight.<\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/$s_!8mW4!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe28f4029-948d-4978-9774-9fb94129c8f9_1318x1587.png\" data-component-name=\"Image2ToDOM\" class=\"image-link image2 is-viewable-img can-restack\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/https:\/\/substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com\/public\/images\/e28f4029-948d-4978-9774-9fb94129c8f9_1318.jpeg\" width=\"1318\" height=\"1587\" data-attrs=\"{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https:\/\/substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com\/public\/images\/e28f4029-948d-4978-9774-9fb94129c8f9_1318x1587.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1587,&quot;width&quot;:1318,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:393934,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image\/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https:\/\/garymarcus.substack.com\/i\/214490216?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe28f4029-948d-4978-9774-9fb94129c8f9_1318x1587.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}\" alt=\"\"   class=\"sizing-normal\"\/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>By conventional definitions, Astra still falls short. <\/p>\n<p>Declaring victory without a definition simply muddies the waters.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align:center;\">\u00a7<\/p>\n<p>Aside from the lack of definitions, I would expect that if Astra really were AGI, it would be a quantum leap ahead of its competitors. Instead, many see it as not much more than on a par with Fable 5.1 in real-world applications:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/peterwildeford\/status\/2096701237731135578?s=61\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer nofollow\" data-component-name=\"Twitter2ToDOM\" class=\"pencraft pc-display-contents pc-reset\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/https:\/\/pbs.substack.com\/profile_images\/2016338985811927041\/Vve57ZtV.png\" alt=\"X avatar for @peterwildeford\"  width=\"40\" height=\"40\" draggable=\"false\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"img-OACg1c object-fit-cover-u4ReeV pencraft pc-reset\"\/><\/p>\n<p>Peter Wildeford\ud83c\uddfa\ud83c\uddf8\ud83d\ude80@peterwildeford<\/p>\n<p>My current view is that GPT 6 Astra is not meaningfully better than Fable 5.1 for my personal work, but that using both side-by-side is nonetheless very helpful and additive.<\/p>\n<p>I have been using GPT 6 Astra and Fable 5.1 a bunch over the past two days, largely for policy analysis,\u2026<\/p>\n<p>8:45 PM \u00b7 Sep 6, 2026 \u00b7 4.08K Views<\/p>\n<p>6 Replies \u00b7 4 Reposts \u00b7 86 Likes<\/p>\n<p><\/a><\/p>\n<p>And one well-respected set of benchmarks suggests that Astra is a genuine improvement but not significantly off-trend.<\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/$s_!Jl2Z!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff5727a97-d751-41ee-bcb7-1a1a470ff2d0_1210x1355.png\" data-component-name=\"Image2ToDOM\" class=\"image-link image2 is-viewable-img can-restack\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/https:\/\/substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com\/public\/images\/f5727a97-d751-41ee-bcb7-1a1a470ff2d0_1210.jpeg\" width=\"1210\" height=\"1355\" data-attrs=\"{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https:\/\/substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com\/public\/images\/f5727a97-d751-41ee-bcb7-1a1a470ff2d0_1210x1355.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1355,&quot;width&quot;:1210,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:663865,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image\/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https:\/\/garymarcus.substack.com\/i\/214490216?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff5727a97-d751-41ee-bcb7-1a1a470ff2d0_1210x1355.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}\" alt=\"\"   loading=\"lazy\" class=\"sizing-normal\"\/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>When real AGI arrives, we won\u2019t need to squint our eyes.<\/p>\n<p>And we won\u2019t need Jensen\u2019s approval, either. The results, at that point, will speak for themselves.<\/p>\n<p>Update: One reader pointed to the ARC-AGI test as a criterion. Here\u2019s what the inventor of ARC said about this:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/fchollet\/status\/2095599835932135919?s=61\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer nofollow\" data-component-name=\"Twitter2ToDOM\" class=\"pencraft pc-display-contents pc-reset\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/https:\/\/pbs.substack.com\/profile_images\/2006806326140350470\/Kd5oZv-f.jpg\" alt=\"X avatar for @fchollet\"  width=\"40\" height=\"40\" draggable=\"false\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"img-OACg1c object-fit-cover-u4ReeV pencraft pc-reset\"\/><\/p>\n<p>Fran\u00e7ois Chollet@fchollet<\/p>\n<p>Many of you will ask, &#8220;if it saturates ARC 3, is it AGI?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>We&#8217;re not making this claim. All we know about the system so far are its benchmark scores.<\/p>\n<p>When we launched ARC 3, and in every presentation we made about it, we were very insistent on one thing: solving it is not proof \u2026<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/HRUQjZNbAAAzocI.jpg\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"image-c_FmAR\"\/><\/p>\n<p>7:48 PM \u00b7 Sep 3, 2026 \u00b7 60.6K Views<\/p>\n<p>22 Replies \u00b7 28 Reposts \u00b7 540 Likes<\/p>\n<p><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Update two: Although Jensen congratulated OpenAI today, about six months he already declared victory, pre-Astra, with respect to an earlier model.<\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/$s_!BAU3!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9e9db0a9-e4d5-4585-86d2-2c3551a0e64b_1218x722.png\" data-component-name=\"Image2ToDOM\" class=\"image-link image2 is-viewable-img can-restack\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/https:\/\/substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com\/public\/images\/9e9db0a9-e4d5-4585-86d2-2c3551a0e64b_1218.jpeg\" width=\"1218\" height=\"722\" data-attrs=\"{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https:\/\/substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com\/public\/images\/9e9db0a9-e4d5-4585-86d2-2c3551a0e64b_1218x722.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:722,&quot;width&quot;:1218,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:121698,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image\/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https:\/\/garymarcus.substack.com\/i\/214490216?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9e9db0a9-e4d5-4585-86d2-2c3551a0e64b_1218x722.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}\" alt=\"\"   loading=\"lazy\" class=\"sizing-normal\"\/><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"A couple hours ago Jensen Huang declared that the race to AGI is over. 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