It\u2019s been more than three months since a massive rainstorm hit Winnipeg on June 9, flooding the basement of the Asper Jewish Community Campus, where half the archival collection of the Jewish Heritage Centre of Western Canada was being stored.<\/p>\n
The collection includes some 70,000 photographs, old Jewish newspapers, Torah covers, records of Jewish farm colonies and textiles donated by generations of Jewish families from Western Canada and Northwestern Ontario.<\/p>\n
If not for the quick response of archivist Ava Garfinkel and a group of volunteers, the collection could have suffered serious damage from mould and been ruined within a day or two. Racing against time, they worked through the night to move sodden boxes upstairs, then called in an Ottawa restoration company that specializes in saving water-damaged paper and archival materials through deep freezing.<\/p>\n
Garfinkel believes they managed to save everything except one photograph. But major challenges remain before the collection can return to Winnipeg, including raising $100,000 to build a safer, drier storage space in the same building to protect 130 years of Jewish history.<\/p>\n
On today\u2019s episode of The CJN\u2019s North Star podcast, host Ellin Bessner takes Garfinkel back to that frantic, stormy night to recount what happened, get an update on the frozen archives and learn what needs to be done to prevent another disaster.<\/p>\n
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Archivist Ava Garfinkel spent the night moving damaged boxes from the June 9, 2026 rainstorm that flooded the basement of Winnipeg\u2019s Asper Jewish community centre, where despite existing humidity and space challenges, half the collection had been stored. (Submitted photo) <\/p>\n
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Read about some of the significant artifacts<\/a> that the Jewish Heritage Centre of Western Canada holds, including a donated 235-year-old European Torah scroll, once used by communities in Montreal and Saskatchewan, in The CJN<\/a>, from 2024.\u00a0Charitable donations<\/a> to restore and rebuild the archives can be made through the Jewish Heritage Centre of Western Canada\u2019s website.The JHCWC is holding a trivia night Oct. 22 with all proceeds going to the emergency restoration fund for the archives<\/a>.Watch the full interview and see the damage and restoration efforts on The CJN\u2019s YouTube Channel<\/p>\n Transcript<\/p>\n Ava Garfinkel<\/p>\n Jewish history is so at risk to begin with. I think there\u2019s a lot that has been destroyed and lost, and all that we can keep is just as important as everything else.<\/p>\n Ellin Bessner<\/p>\n Nearly four months ago a torrential rainstorm hit parts of Manitoba and the water caused a flood in the Asper Jewish Community Campus in Winnipeg, which is home to the archives of the Jewish Heritage Centre of Western Canada.<\/p>\n The center holds some seventy thousand photographs plus thousands of other pieces of Western Canadian Jewish history, like Torah covers, linens, old Jewish newspapers, oral history recordings, Jewish farm colony records. Holocaust survivor artifacts, and even some personal documents from notable Manitobans, including Hollywood actress Frances Bay, lawyer and politician Maitland Steinkopf, novelist Adele Wiseman, and nuclear bomb builder doctor Louis Slotin.<\/p>\n Some of the archival documents date back one hundred and thirty years.<\/p>\n Half the collection was being stored in the center\u2019s basement in boxes, for reasons you\u2019ll hear about shortly.<\/p>\n When building staff contacted archivist Ava Garfinkel the night of the rainstorm, her heart sunk, and then she swung into action, braving the dangerous driving conditions to get to work. She knew she had only a few hours to save the collection before it would become mouldy and be ruined. What she did that night with her team of volunteers saved the soggy archives, all but one picture.<\/p>\n The collection\u2019s now in Ottawa with a company specializing in the In deep freeze restoration of damaged museum collections. And although insurance can pay for some of the damage in the archives, bringing it all back to Winnipeg isn\u2019t so easy. The space wasn\u2019t the safest place to store the archives before the flood, and now officials say they need $100,000 in immediate funding to get the right climate-controlled boxes and containers to ensure the threat from humidity and even pests doesn\u2019t put more than a century of Jewish history at risk in the future<\/p>\n I\u2019m Ellin Bessner, and this is what Jewish Canada sounds like for Monday, September 28th, 2026. Welcome to North Star, the flagship podcast of The Canadian Jewish News, made possible thanks to Ira Gluskin and Maxine Granofsky Gluskin\u2019s Charitable Foundation.<\/p>\n The Irma and Marvin Penn Archives, where Ava Garfinkel works, is named after the center\u2019s first archivist, who was also one of the world\u2019s first female Torah scribes. It\u2019s still closed to researchers, so is the Holocaust Education Centre, and there\u2019s only limited donations being accepted.<\/p>\n Even before this natural disaster, they needed a million-dollar endowment fund, long term, to preserve the records and the space, but now they\u2019re looking for emergency donations just to reopen.<\/p>\n Joining us now from Winnipeg is Ava Garfinkel to share what that awful night was like and what was nearly lost.<\/p>\n It\u2019s great to meet you. Thanks for joining us on The Canadian Jewish News North Star Podcast.<\/p>\n Ava Garfinkel<\/p>\n Thanks for having me.<\/p>\n Ellin Bessner<\/p>\n First of all, I want to ask what is the latest today as we\u2019re speaking and then we\u2019ll go back to what happened when that night.<\/p>\n Ava Garfinkel<\/p>\n Everything is a bit mixed up right now. We have our archive in several different places around the Asper Jewish Community Campus. And right now we\u2019re trying to, I guess, put everything in new boxes, give it more effective protective storage, prepare the basement so that everything can go back down to it. And as far as the documents and just archives in general that were affected by by the flood and by the water. those have been in Ontario at a vacuum freeze drying facility. And we\u2019ve actually just been in contact in the last couple of weeks with them there and everything has been going smoothly. It\u2019s really great news coming out of that whole process, which has been a massive relief. because that\u2019s been a bit of an unknown with everything so far away from us.<\/p>\n Ellin Bessner<\/p>\n So you\u2019re talking to me from the archives office. Are you also in the basement or not?<\/p>\n Ava Garfinkel<\/p>\n No, so our office is split. We\u2019ve got our main office is upstairs and then we have an archive that just holds textual records up here as well. And then textual record overflow and the majority of our artifacts are kept downstairs in the basement and then we have a hallway museum as well as the Holocaust Education Centre Museum. So, you know.<\/p>\n Ellin Bessner<\/p>\n Okay. I want to hear about the night of. I want to take you back to the night of.<\/p>\n Ava Garfinkel<\/p>\n Okay.<\/p>\n Ellin Bessner<\/p>\n And it\u2019s June and you\u2019re at home and it\u2019s pouring rain and you get a phone call.<\/p>\n Ava Garfinkel<\/p>\n Yeah, so I think we got actually it was an email, it was sent to everybody, and I got an email notification. I was watching the storm with my sister, and the second the email came through, I pretty much knew immediately. I went, \u201cI know exactly what this is gonna be.\u201d<\/p>\n Ellin Bessner<\/p>\n Who sent the email.<\/p>\n Ava Garfinkel<\/p>\n It was from the campus, from the head of the campus here. He said, \u201cI think the archive is experiencing some flooding\u201d. And there were photos and a few board members had started to have a conversation over the email and they said,\u201d Well, okay, we\u2019ll come in first thing tomorrow.\u201d<\/p>\n And I just knew that I wouldn\u2019t be able to sleep. So I got in the car and I don\u2019t think I\u2019ve ever driven in conditions like that in my entire life.[my sister drove]<\/p>\n The storm was just absolutely insane and we got there around the time we started to get alerts to go to a basement, so it was almost convenient actually, that we should be sheltering in a basement. And yeah, we ended up spending most of the night into the early hours of the morning lifting boxes out of the water, setting them up on tables, just trying to get as much out of the water as we possibly could as quickly as we could.<\/p>\n Ellin Bessner<\/p>\n What did you actually see? Like how many inches or feet of water are up to your knees, up to your thighs, where?<\/p>\n Ava Garfinkel<\/p>\n So in some places the floor there is a bit uneven. So in certain places it was higher than others. I think overall it was the lowest point was about three inches and then some places went a bit higher than that. which doesn\u2019t seem like a lot, but we had a lot of material that was quite low to the ground.<\/p>\n Ellin Bessner<\/p>\n And you say boxes, are you talking about the special protective boxes or just, like, cardboard boxes? Banker\u2019s boxes?<\/p>\n Ava Garfinkel<\/p>\n So we have a mix. You know, our institution\u2019s been in operation since the seventies. So, you know, archival standards have changed over the years. Some of the things that we have are literally cardboard boxes from the seventies and some things are, you know, bankers\u2019 boxes, and then some things are very specialized Hollinger gray archival boxes, and those were like magic. We were so amazed by those when we saw them because they just they held their shape, they protected the material so well. but the other boxes were just completely falling apart, kind of disintegrating in our hands. and we didn\u2019t have enough space to put things on. I think we had tables out into the hallway. and then at the same time, you know, there\u2019s flooding in the hallway. It was quite an intense situation.<\/p>\n Ellin Bessner<\/p>\n You guys have seventy thousand photographs and artifacts, four thousand dolls, clothing, trophies, paper things. I mean, what was in those boxes? And also, did you even know what was in there?<\/p>\n Ava Garfinkel<\/p>\n So initially it was really hard to know what was in there. There were a few points of the process where I started to realize what had become wet and what hadn\u2019t.<\/p>\n And there were some boxes that I wasn\u2019t even entirely sure what was in there, because we just had to get them shipped away to restoration so fast. We were working on an extremely tight timeline. Everything had to be frozen within forty-eight hours to prevent mould growth. So we just didn\u2019t have the time to look at everything. But there were some things that I was feeling quite anxious about. We had a few artifacts here and there. We had thankfully none of our textiles were really affected. We had very old vintage mechanical adding machine. It got quite soaked. There were a few reel-to-reel audio tapes. That was quite upsetting. Thankfully those are things we do have digital copies of, but we always like to retain the original more than we like to retain any digital copies. And the Oral histories, Holocaust histories, histories of people in the community who are no longer around.<\/p>\n Ellin Bessner<\/p>\n How did you know what even to do? Had you ever practiced this before?<\/p>\n Ava Garfinkel<\/p>\n So we\u2019d never run a practice, but we\u2019d had a project that we were implementing before. We were about about two weeks away from starting a project to overhaul the basement and bring it up to a higher archival standard. And we\u2019d had previous dampness in the basement that we\u2019d troubleshooted and handled in a very small, isolated way.<\/p>\n So we did know the broad strokes of it and we did know how to begin, but through the process we\u2019ve learned a lot. there\u2019s also conservation hotlines that museums and archives have access to and are able to call in emergencies. Those have been absolutely so important to us.<\/p>\n Ellin Bessner<\/p>\n You mentioned too that like just two weeks before, you were worrying about maybe fixing the basement. Why were they in the basement in the first place?<\/p>\n Ava Garfinkel<\/p>\n I think in any other context we would be very delighted that our community is so vibrant and growing so much. But in the context of our archive, what it\u2019s meant is that unfortunately we\u2019ve had to give up a lot of our space over the years in the Asper campus to other things like daycares and seniors programming and other community groups that just need that space. So what it\u2019s meant is that, you know, there\u2019s been reshuffling for everybody and what\u2019s happened is that we\u2019ve ended up landing in the basement.<\/p>\n And we\u2019ve tried to do the best with what we\u2019ve got. And there\u2019s just not enough space in this community is the reality.<\/p>\n Ellin Bessner<\/p>\n You knew that you were gonna do the freezing right when you were schlepping boxes? Or that came later?<\/p>\n Ava Garfinkel<\/p>\n I knew immediately that well, the second I saw exactly how much had been affected, I knew that we\u2019re a very small team here. We\u2019re about, you know, three or four people. We cannot in the time that we had dry everything. we needed to freeze it somehow. Because what happens is after 48 hours, mould starts to grow and the fight against mould once it develops is a harrowing fight that you can\u2019t really win. It becomes nearly impossible, especially with masses of material at that size and in a room with so much humidity and it just would have been an absolute nightmare.<\/p>\n Ellin Bessner<\/p>\n Anybody that\u2019s had a flood knows that from their own personal experiences. It smells, It\u2019s dangerous police. The fire department, the insurance, they tell you \u201cYou gotta throw it out,\u201d<\/p>\n Ava Garfinkel<\/p>\n It destroys everything too. It just it eats right through things. And, you know, you can send things to conservation, to sort of remediate against mould but it\u2019s not a guarantee that it\u2019s gonna come back or that it\u2019s ever going to be fully gone. So it\u2019s just better never to get it. In an archive it\u2019s kind of your worst nightmare.<\/p>\n Ellin Bessner<\/p>\n So why does I mean we talked a little bit before that you digitized some things. Why do you think it\u2019s important that these physical records matter when so many things are already digitized?<\/p>\n Ava Garfinkel<\/p>\n When you digitize something, you lose some of the material. you lose some of the information. And it might not be necessarily the data, the words that are written on a piece of paper, but it can be the paper itself, or it can be things written on like the back or the way it\u2019s deteriorating or the way it\u2019s folded. You know, you get information that you wouldn\u2019t expect from a physical artifact that you wouldn\u2019t necessarily get in a digital scan. My background is in archaeology, so I\u2019m used to working with very, very tiny fragments of material and we can glean an enormous amount of information from these very tiny fragments.<\/p>\n Jewish history is so at risk to begin with. I think there\u2019s a lot that has been destroyed and lost and all that we can keep is just as important as everything else, right? So even if it\u2019s just a you know, a piece of paper that you don\u2019t think is gonna be very important, it could actually end up being more important to you know, a researcher or a genealogist or even just somebody looking for personal interest years later, right?<\/p>\n Ellin Bessner<\/p>\n And so what could have been lost from Canadian Western and Northwestern Ontario Jewish history had you not gone there that night?<\/p>\n Ava Garfinkel<\/p>\n Yeah, we had many, many, many photographs were in those boxes. We had a lot of records from we hold the records of the Western Canadian division of the Canadian Jewish Congress. Some of those were involved in the flood. They\u2019ve all been vacuum freeze dried; they\u2019re all coming back to us. They seem to be in fairly good condition from what we\u2019ve heard. We\u2019re feeling quite optimistic about that.<\/p>\n There\u2019s a lot of photos. We hold a lot of records of Jewish farm colonies in Western Canada, a lot of which those communities no longer exist. And we\u2019re solely responsible for their history so those records are something that\u2019s very important to us and something that we really try hard to preserve. And you know, the material that got wet wasn\u2019t all that was at risk. If we hadn\u2019t been able to remove everything in time, mould would have developed and started to affect everything else in the space, and the air, the space. Afterwards we had to remove everything from the basement. It is now completely empty because it was too humid and there was a continued flood risk after the structural damage happened. You know, there\u2019s a lot that could have ended up being lost. We have so many records. We have, my gosh, we have like a massive amount of material. we\u2019ve got manuscripts, photographs, audiovisual media, and newspapers, I think artifacts. We\u2019ve got a massive textile collection as well.<\/p>\n Ellin Bessner<\/p>\n Tell me about that. I know that\u2019s your background. Textiles. You mean clothing? Do you mean tallis bags, tallitot, things like that?<\/p>\n Ava Garfinkel<\/p>\n Yeah, so we have Torah covers, ark curtains, we have tallitot, we have cantorial robes, we have people\u2019s clothing from way back. We have a lot of wedding dresses. we have tefillin, we have shoes, we have all sorts of personal artifacts, we\u2019ve got all sorts of trousseaux, that women had made for them way back and their families have preserved,<\/p>\n Ellin Bessner<\/p>\n For our audience, you\u2019ve got to tell them \u2019cause nobody knows what that is now. It\u2019s<\/p>\n Ava Garfinkel<\/p>\n It\u2019s<\/p>\n Ellin Bessner<\/p>\n It like their dowry thing, yeah.<\/p>\n Ava Garfinkel<\/p>\n Clothing and household textiles that would go to a woman sort of as a dowry when she married into a new family.<\/p>\n Ellin Bessner<\/p>\n So the Torah covers? That was not wet and none of that stuff? The Judaica was not wet? Thank God.<\/p>\n Ava Garfinkel<\/p>\n No, no, none of the none of the textiles got wet. It was a lot of photographs, paper documents, a lot of audio. Audio, digital material. We had a collection of floppy discs. They weren\u2019t even working anymore. we\u2019d actually were preparing to get rid of those. They had been transferred to<\/p>\n Ellin Bessner<\/p>\n A bit of a silver lining no?<\/p>\n Ava Garfinkel<\/p>\n Yeah, so it saved us a bit of time.<\/p>\n Ellin Bessner<\/p>\n If you\u2019re listening to North Star, you can also watch our interviews on The Canadian Jewish News\u2019 YouTube channel.<\/p>\n Let\u2019s talk a bit about what isn\u2019t happening at the archives now because of this incident that happened. How are researchers impacted? And also maybe your Holocaust Museum and other things you were planning to do.<\/p>\n Ava Garfinkel<\/p>\n So, our Holocaust Museum is closed right now and our offices are closed to regular visits. There\u2019s some acquisitions that we\u2019ve been taking, that are a bit more pressing. So we have been making exceptions here and there now that things have calmed down a little bit in the last three months.<\/p>\n We\u2019ve also been hit really hard by Bill C-3 and the effects of that Canadian citizenship bill: the new Canadian citizenship bill relies heavily on archival documentation. So we\u2019ve had a lot of people contacting us looking for records of their family. and we\u2019ve just had to push a lot of that back.<\/p>\n Ellin Bessner<\/p>\n Wha tell me about that. I\u2019m not familiar with the what does that mean?<\/p>\n Ava Garfinkel<\/p>\n Bill C-3, it basically says that if you had a Canadian relative in the past, as long as you can track your history and track your family connection reliably, through documentation, you can apply for Canadian citizenship.<\/p>\n Ellin Bessner<\/p>\n And these are Jewish people whose family came here or lived here years ago and where are they do they not live in Canada? I mean, I don\u2019t know about<\/p>\n Ava Garfinkel<\/p>\n a lot of them are American. We\u2019ve had a lot of American requests. so there\u2019s been there\u2019s things have been very busy, not just for our archive, but archives all over Canada have been<\/p>\n Ellin Bessner<\/p>\n It\u2019s actually interesting. The Americans are trying to come home so that they can escape whatever Trump business or whatever for whatever reasons?<\/p>\n Ava Garfinkel<\/p>\n We\u2019ve been trying to get to as much of it as we can, but even regularly we have usually a backlog of research. So now we have an even bigger backlog because of the flooding and the Bill C-3 stuff because, you know, when it rains it pours.<\/p>\n Ellin Bessner<\/p>\n No pun intended. Yeah. Yeah. And you said you\u2019re gonna have to close the center. This is back to school time and a lot of school groups, I assume, would be coming in as they learn towards November and Kristallnacht and Holocaust Education Week. Is that gonna be able to be, you think, reopened in time for that?<\/p>\n Ava Garfinkel<\/p>\n We\u2019re trying to get things moved as fast as we possibly can. the work that we need to do to prepare the basement to return the archives to it goes the way that any sort of construction or any sort of project like this goes where every once in a while there it starts to be a series of roadblocks. But things are starting to look really good right now. We\u2019re about to seal the floors there and do some work to reduce the humidity. overall and set up new shelving and a few other protective measures so that we can start moving stuff.<\/p>\n Ellin Bessner<\/p>\n So are we talking timeline a month?<\/p>\n Ava Garfinkel<\/p>\n So I\u2019m thinking at this point it\u2019s gonna be two, two to three.<\/p>\n Ellin Bessner<\/p>\n How do you expect your space will be renovated in order can it be renovated now with this limited scope to mitigate preserving the heritage materials from climate change?<\/p>\n Ava Garfinkel<\/p>\n Well we\u2019re doing right now is we\u2019re setting up the basement in a way that there are several layers of protection so that if something like this or another sort of disaster happens again, that there\u2019ll be several lines of defense for all of the material that\u2019s in there. And that goes down to the what\u2019s going on directly inside the box that the material is in, but also on the shelf and outside the shelf and in the general vicinity of the room around it. We\u2019re also creating a climate that\u2019s better situated. That\u2019s a project we\u2019ve wanted to for quite a while as we\u2019ve wanted to stabilize the humidity in that room. So, you know, we are finding opportunities in all of the, you know, tragedy.<\/p>\n Ellin Bessner<\/p>\n Are you going to come to to Ontario and and have a look at this stuff or how how do you even get to see what they\u2019re doing?<\/p>\n Ava Garfinkel<\/p>\n So thankfully, modern technology has allowed us to have a lot of Yeah.<\/p>\n Ellin Bessner<\/p>\n You on their Zoom and they show you?<\/p>\n Ava Garfinkel<\/p>\n There\u2019s a lot of material that we\u2019ve looked at individually. There\u2019s a few things that needed specialized care. so<\/p>\n Ellin Bessner<\/p>\n Tell me about that, yeah.<\/p>\n Ava Garfinkel<\/p>\n So we have a collection of half-tone photo engravings, which are like photo blocks that were used by the Israelite press. Every time somebody was in the newspaper, they would print a block with their face engraved in metals so that they could Use it on the printing press. We have a lot of those photo blocks and one of the boxes did get damp and the bottom of those are wood and the top are engraved metal and they cannot be put into vacuum freeze drying chamber like everything else can. The facility there is handling a few specialized materials that are being looked at there. \u2018s if I believe it\u2019s in Ottawa.<\/p>\n Ellin Bessner<\/p>\n It\u2019s in Toronto? Where is this place?<\/p>\n Ava Garfinkel<\/p>\n I believe it\u2019s in Ottawa.<\/p>\n Ellin Bessner<\/p>\n And there\u2019s no insurance for this? Why do you need to raise a hundred thousand dollars?<\/p>\n Ava Garfinkel<\/p>\n There is insurance, but insurance only goes so far. There\u2019s insurance will cover what the restoration work that we\u2019ve gotten done, but the project that we need to do now is to set up the space for the future so that if th this does happen again, it won\u2019t affect anything that\u2019s in our archive. That is an expensive project. And we also have a an emergency fundraiser coming up, which is gonna be a trivia night, to try to I guess drum up a bit of support for the project and bring people\u2019s attention to, you know, the history that we are preserving.<\/p>\n Ellin Bessner<\/p>\n Well give you the last word. The general public may not understand what is at stake. Why is it important?<\/p>\n Ava Garfinkel<\/p>\n That we preserve the memory of this community. And I think we talk about memory a lot in Jewish kind of culture. And I think that so much of this memory is at risk and has in the past been eroded by time and by external factors. And we\u2019re doing what we can to preserve it and make sure that it remains. And it\u2019s not just our own community here, it\u2019s other communities that no longer exist that we\u2019re trying to preserve and we\u2019re trying to create access to these things for researchers and genealogists and students and, you know, members of the public whose own families are preserved here.<\/p>\n I think a lot of people don\u2019t realize how thorough our records are. There are a lot of people in this community I think that don\u2019t actually know that their family are preserved here because their family aren\u2019t necessarily preserved because they donated a document. Oftentimes an organization like a synagogue will donate a document or newspapers or different organizations that people have been part of throughout the years. You know, people\u2019s lives are really recorded and kept here.<\/p>\n And it\u2019s just very, very important to preserve as much as we can of our history and culture. I think all history is sort of at risk from technology and time, but I think Jewish history in particular were, you know, people of diasporas We move around a lot and not always by choice and not always in good conditions. and the result of the Holocaust and the massive amounts of information and history that was lost in that period of time makes it all the more dire, I think, to protect what we do have, what little still remains of certain times and places that no longer exist.<\/p>\n Ellin Bessner<\/p>\n It\u2019s really been an eye-opener to hear from you and we wish you only good news as we get closer to the big restoration repatriation. Speak to you again and check in with you when we have news.<\/p>\n And that\u2019s what Jewish Canada sounded like for this episode of North Star. Made possible thanks to the Ira Gluskin and Maxine Granofsky Gluskin Charitable Foundation.<\/p>\n On a personal note, I spent many hours at those archives in Winnipeg a decade ago to research my book on Western Jewish soldiers who served in the Second World War. Those records were beyond crucial, so this story is personal for me too.<\/p>\n To learn more and to donate to restore the Jewish Heritage Centre of Western Canada\u2019s archives, you can go to the links in our show notes.<\/p>\n North Star is produced by Zachary Judah Kauffman and Izzy Hellenchilde. Michael Fraiman is the executive producer and Alicia Richler is The CJN\u2019s editorial director. 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