{"id":948382,"date":"2026-10-27T17:18:12","date_gmt":"2026-10-27T17:18:12","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/948382\/"},"modified":"2026-10-27T17:18:12","modified_gmt":"2026-10-27T17:18:12","slug":"dave-ramseys-8-rule-vs-morningstars-3-9-where-dividend-income-fits-in-retirement","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/948382\/","title":{"rendered":"Dave Ramsey&#8217;s 8% Rule vs. Morningstar&#8217;s 3.9%: Where Dividend Income Fits in Retirement"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Dave Ramsey and Morningstar sit on opposite ends of retirement math, and the gap between their withdrawal rates could mean the difference between a comfortable retirement and a depleted portfolio. Where dividends land in that debate depends on a risk\u2026<\/p>\n<p>Capital Group introduced target-date withdrawal ranges on October 21. It\u2019s the latest firm trying to answer the hardest question in retirement: how much can you spend each year without running out? Two of the best-known answers are far apart. Dave Ramsey\u2019s guide uses an 8% withdrawal rate, and research from Morningstar (<a href=\"https:\/\/247wallst.com\/companies\/MORN\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">NASDAQ:MORN<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/247wallst.com\/companies\/morn\/price-prediction\" class=\"ticker-pp-link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">MORN Price Prediction<\/a>) sets the safe starting rate at 3.9%. The reasons for that gap explain where dividend income fits.<\/p>\n<p>Two Numbers Built on Very Different Assumptions<\/p>\n<p>Dave Ramsey\u2019s company publishes a guide on <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ramseysolutions.com\/retirement\/how-much-do-i-need-to-retire\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">how much you need to retire<\/a>, and its example uses an 8% annual withdrawal rate. The same Ramsey Solutions example assumes an 11% average annual return. The idea is that if the portfolio earns more than you take out, the principal continues growing.<\/p>\n<p>Morningstar\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.morningstar.com\/business\/insights\/research\/the-state-of-retirement-income\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">State of Retirement Income report<\/a>, released in December 2025, found that 3.9% is the highest safe starting withdrawal rate for people retiring in 2026 who want steady income that rises with inflation. That figure assumes a moderate stock allocation, a long retirement, and a 90% chance that money is still left at the end. It also leaves out Social Security. Morningstar found that retirees who let their spending rise and fall with the market could start at nearly 6%.<\/p>\n<p>Why Average Returns Can Sink a Retirement Plan<\/p>\n<p>Ramsey Solutions\u2019 11% average says nothing about the order the returns arrive in. <a title=\"For a $2.4 Million Retiree, the Sequence of Returns in Years 1-3 Matters More Than Total Savings\" href=\"https:\/\/247wallst.com\/personal-finance\/2026\/04\/30\/for-a-2-4-million-retiree-the-sequence-of-returns-in-years-1-3-matters-more-than-total-savings\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Sequence-of-returns risk<\/a> is the danger of a bad market early in retirement. If stocks drop in year one and you still pull out the same dollar amount, you\u2019re selling shares at low prices to pay the bills. Those shares can\u2019t take part in the recovery. Morningstar\u2019s lower number shows planning for that case.<\/p>\n<p>Inflation adds pressure. The Research CPI for Americans 62 and older reached 368.066 in September. That was up 0.5% from August and the highest reading in the past year. The index weights housing and medical care more heavily. <a title=\"Medicare Part B Just Crossed $200 a Month for the First Time. Here&#039;s What That Means for Retirees\" href=\"https:\/\/247wallst.com\/investing\/2026\/03\/18\/medicare-part-b-just-crossed-200-a-month-for-the-first-time-heres-what-that-means-for-retirees\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Medicare\u2019s standard Part B premium<\/a> rose to $202.90 a month from $185.<\/p>\n<p>Dividends Speak Directly to the Sequence Problem<\/p>\n<p>Dividends come in as cash. A retiree who covers some spending with dividends can leave shares alone after a crash, the exact risk at the center of the Ramsey 8% vs. Morningstar 3.9% debate. On The Clark Howard Podcast, advisor Wes Moss noted that \u201cdividends have grown at twice the rate on average of inflation,\u201d which helps protect purchasing power.<\/p>\n<p>Moss also flagged the limit: \u201cYou can have a portfolio that has a 4% dividend yield, but you would have to really get specific on pretty darn <a title=\"These High-Yield Dividend Stocks Could Be Traps for Retirement Investors\" href=\"https:\/\/247wallst.com\/investing\/2026\/10\/26\/these-high-yield-dividend-stocks-could-be-traps-for-retirement-investors\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">high dividend yielders<\/a> in that three and a half to four and a half percent range. There aren\u2019t that many of them.\u201d Companies can cut dividends, and they often do in recessions, right when retirees need the cash most. A very high yield can signal the market expects a cut. On its own, a high yield doesn\u2019t make a retirement plan.<\/p>\n<p>Bonds now carry more of the load. The 10-year Treasury yielded 4.96% on October 22, after hitting 5.31% on October 5. That yield sits between the two withdrawal rates, so the fixed-income side of a portfolio can produce real income without selling anything.<\/p>\n<p>Social Security Changes the Math for Everyone<\/p>\n<p>Morningstar\u2019s figure excludes Social Security, which still funds part of most retirees\u2019 budgets. The Social Security Administration\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ssa.gov\/news\/en\/cola\/factsheets\/2027.html\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">2027 fact sheet<\/a> sets a 3.6% cost-of-living adjustment. That raises the estimated average retired worker\u2019s benefit to $2,170 a month from $2,095, and $3,355 for a couple where both receive benefits. Every dollar of guaranteed income is a dollar your portfolio doesn\u2019t have to produce.<\/p>\n<p>What Decides Your Own Withdrawal Rate<\/p>\n<p>Which number fits you depends on three things: how much you can cut spending in a bad year, how much of your budget Social Security and pensions already cover, and how much of the rest dividends and bond interest can pay without selling shares. Retirees with fixed budgets are closer to Morningstar\u2019s base case. Retirees with flexible budgets and solid guaranteed income have more room, though Morningstar\u2019s own flexible-spending research stops at nearly 6%. Morningstar updates this research annually, and the next edition will reflect these figures.<\/p>\n<p>Contact <a href=\"http:\/\/247wallst.com\/cdn-cgi\/l\/email-protection#c2a7a6abb6adb0aba3ae82f0f6f5b5a3aeaeb1b6eca1adaffdb1b7a0a8a7a1b6ff84a7a7a6a0a3a1a9e7f183e7f0f286a3b4a7e7f0f290a3afb1a7bbe787f0e7faf2e7fbfbb1e7f0f2fae7f0f7e7f0f290b7aea7e7f0f2b4b1ece7f0f28fadb0acabaca5b1b6a3b0e787f0e7faf2e7fbfbb1e7f0f2f1ecfbe7f0f7e7f183e7f0f295aaa7b0a7e7f0f286abb4aba6a7aca6e7f0f28baca1adafa7e7f0f284abb6b1e7f0f2abace7f0f290a7b6abb0a7afa7acb6e4e1f2f1faf9a0ada6bbff92aea7a3b1a7e7f0f2b1aaa3b0a7e7f0f2bbadb7b0e7f0f2a4a7a7a6a0a3a1a9e7f0f2aaa7b0a7e7f183e7f286e7f283e7f286e7f283efefefe7f286e7f283e7f286e7f28390a7a5a3b0a6abaca5e7f0f2b6aaabb1e7f0f2a3b0b6aba1aea7e7f183e7f0f2aab6b6b2b1e7f183e7f084e7f084f0f6f5b5a3aeaeb1b6eca1adafe7f084abacb4a7b1b6abaca5e7f084f0f2f0f4e7f084f3f2e7f084f0f5e7f084a6a3b4a7efb0a3afb1a7bbb1effaefb0b7aea7efb4b1efafadb0acabaca5b1b6a3b0b1eff1effbefb5aaa7b0a7efa6abb4aba6a7aca6efabaca1adafa7efa4abb6b1efabacefb0a7b6abb0a7afa7acb6e7f084\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">[email\u00a0protected]<\/a> for any questions or corrections.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Dave Ramsey and Morningstar sit on opposite ends of retirement math, and the gap between their withdrawal rates&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":948383,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[14],"tags":[45,49,48,133,131,132],"class_list":["post-948382","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-personal-finance","tag-business","tag-ca","tag-canada","tag-finance","tag-personal-finance","tag-personalfinance"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/948382","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=948382"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/948382\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/948383"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=948382"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=948382"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=948382"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}