{"id":126886,"date":"2025-11-07T13:46:07","date_gmt":"2025-11-07T13:46:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/126886\/"},"modified":"2025-11-07T13:46:07","modified_gmt":"2025-11-07T13:46:07","slug":"entitled-fans-must-stop-whinging-about-irelands-defeat-to-new-zealand-the-irish-times","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/126886\/","title":{"rendered":"Entitled fans must stop whinging about Ireland\u2019s defeat to New Zealand \u2013 The Irish Times"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">All the moaning, whining and pearl-clutching <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/sport\/rugby\/2025\/11\/01\/all-blacks-punish-tiring-ireland-in-final-quarter-as-they-run-in-three-tries-to-seal-the-deal\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/sport\/rugby\/2025\/11\/01\/all-blacks-punish-tiring-ireland-in-final-quarter-as-they-run-in-three-tries-to-seal-the-deal\/\">after Ireland\u2019s loss to New Zealand in Chicago<\/a> has been nothing short of embarrassing. It is another sad episode in the arrogance and entitlement that has recently infected Irish rugby.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Over the past few seasons, all the teams at the top of the world rankings have been constantly beating each other. In the last 12 months, the Australians and South Africans are 1-1. The Pumas and New Zealand are 1-1. The Boks and the Kiwis are 1-1. Australia and England are 1-1.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Losing to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/all-blacks\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/all-blacks\/\">New Zealand<\/a> is disappointing, but it is not an unexpected disgrace.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Before Saturday\u2019s match in Chicago, anyone with experience in the elite end of the game should have been able to dispassionately consider the facts and conclude that it was a big ask for <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/ireland-rugby\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/ireland-rugby\/\">Ireland<\/a> to win. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The primary difficulty for Ireland this November is they have not played together since March. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">However, the New Zealanders, who are ranked number two in the world, have been together since June, playing eight test matches against the likes of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/france-rugby\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/france-rugby\/\">France<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/wallabies\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/wallabies\/\">Australia<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/argentina-rugby\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/argentina-rugby\">Argentina<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/south-africa-rugby\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/south-africa-rugby\/\">South Africa<\/a>. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The Kiwis registered at least one victory against every team, which is hardly the record of a struggling side. Ireland will face the Wallabies and Springboks, who both have similar preparations.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" data-chromatic=\"ignore\" alt=\"Cam Roigard celebrates scoring New Zealand&#x2019;s fourth try against Ireland on Saturday. Photograph: Robert Alam\/INPHO\" class=\"c-image\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/QXXLCZLN2FCRHPES5Z5CAAHYLY.jpg\"   width=\"800\" height=\"531\"\/>Cam Roigard celebrates scoring New Zealand\u2019s fourth try against Ireland on Saturday. Photograph: Robert Alam\/INPHO <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">When Ireland won the series in New Zealand in 2022, the facts were the exact opposite. Ireland had just concluded the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/six-nations\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/six-nations\">Six Nations<\/a> while New Zealand had not played a game in seven months. Because of that historic series win, many now mindlessly expect that Ireland should dominate the might of New Zealand in every contest.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">There is no denying that last weekend was a below-par Irish performance. This is to be expected as most of the Irish team are still recovering from an 11-month 2024-25 season, which culminated in a winning Lions series. All this has combined to make November a very difficult period for Ireland.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Last summer, the French coach, Fabien Galthi\u00e9, faced the possibility of suffering the same problem that Ireland are now experiencing. Galthi\u00e9 knows it is impossible to minimise your preseason preparation and then play to your maximum potential. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">For this reason, during the French tour of New Zealand last July, Galthi\u00e9 left his top 30 players at home. The Kiwis were justifiably outraged that the leading French players were putting in a solid preseason regimen rather than entertaining the New Zealand crowds. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Galthi\u00e9 desperately wanted to avoid the exact situation that Ireland now faces: which is that a dysfunctional preseason produces a dysfunctional start to the season. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">According to another large group of know-nothings, Ireland\u2019s selections are one giant Dublin 4 conspiracy to favour <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/leinster-rugby\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/leinster-rugby\/\">Leinster<\/a> players. <\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" data-chromatic=\"ignore\" alt=\"Caelan Doris and Jack Crowley applaud Ireland fans after the defeat. Photograph: Dan Sheridan\/INPHO\" class=\"c-image\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/P2LH5KLJB5E27I3ZXJA3YLOESI.jpg\"   width=\"800\" height=\"545\"\/>Caelan Doris and Jack Crowley applaud Ireland fans after the defeat. Photograph: Dan Sheridan\/INPHO <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The tinfoil hats believe this is being co-ordinated by the performance director for the IRFU, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/david-humphreys\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/david-humphreys\/\">David Humphreys<\/a> (who played 163 games for Ulster), <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/andy-farrell\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/andy-farrell\/\">Andy Farrell<\/a> (who played rugby and rugby league for England) and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/paul-o-connell\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/paul-o-connell\/\">Paul O\u2019Connell<\/a> (who may have played the odd game for Munster). They are secretly combining to keep the players from <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/connacht-rugby\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/connacht-rugby\/\">Connacht<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/munster-rugby\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/munster-rugby\/\">Munster<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/ulster-rugby\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/ulster-rugby\/\">Ulster<\/a> oppressed and out of the Irish team.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Have you ever heard such unmitigated nonsense?<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Here, let me give you three reasons why there are not more players in the Irish national team from Ulster, Munster and Connacht: <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">They are not playing good enough. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">They are not playing good enough. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">They are not playing good enough.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph\">For all you entitled moaners, go and take a heaped teaspoon of cement and harden up<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/sport\/rugby\/2025\/10\/20\/superbly-combative-munster-win-leaves-leinster-with-pocketful-of-regret\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/sport\/rugby\/2025\/10\/20\/superbly-combative-munster-win-leaves-leinster-with-pocketful-of-regret\/\">Munster\u2019s win against Leinster at Croke Park<\/a> was good for Irish rugby. Munster are a team on the rise. However, while no player owns their national jersey and each selection is only for a single match, players on the outside must force their way into the team, not by gently knocking at the door but by kicking the thing off its hinges.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">There is only one formula that provincial players who aspire to play for Ireland must follow. They have to constantly play at a standard that is higher than the man who currently wears the jersey. Not for a week, but for months on end. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/jack-crowley\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/jack-crowley\/\">Jack Crowley<\/a> earned his recall by doing exactly that. Across multiple games, his performances have demanded selection.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">There is more bad news for the Irish rugby public: the rest of November is not going to get any easier.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph b-it-article-body__interstitial-link\">[\u00a0<a aria-label=\"Open related story\" class=\"c-link\" href=\"www.irishtimes.com\/sport\/rugby\/2025\/11\/04\/ireland-v-japan-kick-off-time-tv-details-squad-news\/\">Ireland v Japan: Kick-off time, TV details, squad news<\/a>\u00a0]<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">A strong Irish selection should account for Japan, but they will struggle against the Wallabies and are facing the possibility of an absolute belting from the Springboks, who are playing simply spectacular rugby.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Here, let me offer some hope to those anxious Irish supporters. Mary Poppins, whom I am sure was never involved in a jackal or a cleanout, preached that, \u201cA spoonful of sugar helps the medicine go down.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" data-chromatic=\"ignore\" alt=\"Ireland prop Finlay Bealham is tackled by All Blacks players. Photograph: Dan Sheridan\/INPHO\" class=\"c-image\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/S3IPED2J3VCTDEALMFJ6RB675I.jpg\"   width=\"800\" height=\"502\"\/>Ireland prop Finlay Bealham is tackled by All Blacks players. Photograph: Dan Sheridan\/INPHO <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Right now, Ireland are, as we say, taking their medicine. A concoction created by so many Irish players touring with the Lions until early August, which has forced them to be about six weeks behind in their preparation when compared to other international players. If Ireland gets through November with a 2-2 record, they will have done OK. However, I would not be surprised if it ends up 1-3.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The sugar to sweeten November\u2019s medicine is that the Irish sports scientists have been preparing to return the Irish players to their best for the early part of 2026. When the Six Nations and the club playoffs come around, the Irish players will be physically and mentally back on par with the other leading nations. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">For all you entitled moaners, you don\u2019t get any sugar. Go and take a heaped teaspoon of cement and harden up. You were full of bragging when the Irish dominated the Lions selections. The game is the greatest of teachers and one of its most bitter lessons is that whether you win or lose there is always a price to pay.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The price of the Irish dominance in the Lions team meant November was always going to be difficult.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">New Zealand were better prepared than Ireland for that test match. The same may be true for the Wallabies and looks to be almost certain for the Boks. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Suck up those facts. Build a bridge. And get over it.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"All the moaning, whining and pearl-clutching after Ireland\u2019s loss to New Zealand in Chicago has been nothing short&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":126887,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[9],"tags":[1451,25747,1453,28454,74681,1452,61,60,1449,43771,11287,48832,11897,67195,15551,11288,112,31398,53328],"class_list":{"0":"post-126886","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-sports","8":"tag-all-blacks","9":"tag-andy-farrell","10":"tag-argentina-rugby","11":"tag-connacht-rugby","12":"tag-david-humphreys","13":"tag-france-rugby","14":"tag-ie","15":"tag-ireland","16":"tag-ireland-rugby","17":"tag-jack-crowley","18":"tag-leinster-rugby","19":"tag-lions-tour","20":"tag-munster-rugby","21":"tag-paul-o-connell","22":"tag-six-nations","23":"tag-south-africa-rugby","24":"tag-sports","25":"tag-ulster-rugby","26":"tag-wallabies"},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/126886","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=126886"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/126886\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/126887"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=126886"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=126886"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=126886"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}