{"id":135379,"date":"2025-11-12T06:59:07","date_gmt":"2025-11-12T06:59:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/135379\/"},"modified":"2025-11-12T06:59:07","modified_gmt":"2025-11-12T06:59:07","slug":"when-your-irish-kids-start-talking-like-their-english-friends-the-irish-times","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/135379\/","title":{"rendered":"When your Irish kids start talking like their English friends \u2013 The Irish Times"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">It happened on Sunday as we walked across Clapham Common towards the Old Town. My 10-year-old daughter asked if we might go to a shop to get something called a \u201cbaw-tool of wah-taah\u201d.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">I stopped dead in my tracks.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cA what?\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cA baw-tool of wah-taah. Dad, I\u2019m thuh-stee,\u201d she said, raising the intonation on the final word as if asking me a disbelieving question. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Stupid Dad. Is he deaf?<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">My mouth drew the grin of a smug Irish father who had just been handed fresh ammunition to tease his tweenage girl. After her 2\u00bd years here, she was actually speaking in a halfway-posh <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/london\/3\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/london\/3\/\">London<\/a> accent.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">I had heard subtle shifts before in the speech patterns of my daughters. Tiny inflections here, little shifts in vocabulary there. Usually it was when they were talking around their new school friends. Understandable, I thought, they just want to fit in.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Then one day, the youngest asked if I\u2019d reach up to the high \u201ccupboard\u201d to get her a glass. \u201cIt\u2019s a press,\u201d I shot back. \u201cDaaaaaad!\u201d she said, rolling her eyes. She must have wanted wah-taah.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Now here she was on Sunday, walking in one of London\u2019s most famous parks and speaking to her <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/wicklow\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/wicklow\/\">Wicklow<\/a> father as if she had been born 500 yards away. I wasn\u2019t about to let the opportunity slide. I ribbed her mercilessly.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cWell how would you say it?\u201d she said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cA bottle of water.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">My daughter, who was born in the Coombe and lived three quarters of her life in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/dublin\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/dublin\/\">Dublin<\/a>, ran off across the park while imitating my accent: \u201cWaaa-tur! Waaa-tur! Waaa-tur!\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Accents can be sensitive for the Irish in Britain. A few of the long-term Irish expatriates whom I know living here jokingly bemoan their children\u2019s English accents. I\u2019ve always enjoyed hearing this as a facetious in-joke. In <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/ireland\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/ireland\/\">Ireland<\/a>, we know that the definition of self-deprecation extends to slagging off your own family.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Some other long-term Irish expatriates get understandably exasperated by all of this. \u201cWhat\u2019s wrong with my children having English accents? They are English, after all. There\u2019s nothing wrong with that,\u201d some will say, half-defensively.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">And, of course, they are right. Their children are English and, despite our occasional historical hang-ups about the place, England remains one of the most charming nations on earth. But while their kids are English, they are also half-Irish. I reckon they ought to be able to take a good slagging.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The sensitivity can manifest in a different, more serious way among Irish adults born and raised in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/united-kingdom\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/united-kingdom\/\">Britain<\/a> who identify more closely with the culture of their parents\u2019 land. They feel Irish, are Irish, but just have English accents.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Among this cohort there is little fondness in their recollections of being teased by homegrown Irish for the way that they speak. For them, it could be hurtful.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Author Morag Prunty, who writes as Kate Kerrigan, speaks eloquently of how she felt othered when she moved from London, where she was raised, back to her ancestral home of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/mayo\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/mayo\/\">Mayo<\/a>. Her accent was part of it.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cThere is kind of a derision in it,\u201d she once told me as we sipped tea in the back garden of the Hendon house where she was brought up in north London. Despite feeling as Irish as anyone, Prunty often felt the sting of disapproval over the way she spoke.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">I asked her why she thought this was.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cBecause it\u2019s England.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph b-it-article-body__interstitial-link\">[\u00a0<a aria-label=\"Open related story\" class=\"c-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/life-style\/people\/2025\/07\/18\/as-an-irish-person-with-an-english-accent-in-ireland-you-have-to-sit-there-and-take-it\/\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">\u2018As an Irish person with an English accent in Ireland, you have to sit there and take it\u2019Opens in new window<\/a>\u00a0]<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">I have spoken to elderly Irish emigrants to London who have felt the same. Maybe teasing my 10-year-old over her evolving accent wasn\u2019t the smartest thing after all.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The issue arises more with the southeastern accent that sounds standard English to an Irish ear.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">I have been to every corner of Britain in the last three years and have been fascinated by the bewildering variety of speech patterns here.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The Hebridean accent of the Western Isles sounds to me equal parts Scottish, Irish and Norse. Former local MP Angus Brendan MacNeil once told me what I think was a juicy political tale as we walked down the street. I just couldn\u2019t understand a word of it.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">There are umpteen Yorkshire accents, but one thing they have in common is a tendency to drop the words \u201cthe\u201d or \u201cto\u201d. One Labour friend from the area often rejoices in telling me there is \u201cnowt too good for t\u2019working class, Mark\u201d. He also taught me that in Yorkshire, a blow-in is an \u201coffcumden\u201d. What a word.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">I love the contrast between the guttural vowels of Glaswegians versus the softer, more refined accent of many in Edinburgh.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">My daughters are also proficient in the multicultural London English of a few of their classmates: \u201cOh my days, bruv!\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Scousers, Brummies, Mancunians, Geordies, Highlanders, Cornish, East Anglians \u2013 it is hard to believe they were all born on the same island.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">People from the South Wales valleys don\u2019t so much speak their words as sing them. Meanwhile, the capital of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/wales\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/wales\/\">Wales<\/a> is actually \u201cKaaa-diff\u201d, according to locals.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Cockneys, meanwhile, are partial to the glottal stop \u2013 dropping an \u2018f\u2019 or replacing a middle \u2018t\u2019 with a momentary pause. To them, it would be a bo\u2019le o\u2019 wa\u2019er.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">My 10-year-old will probably get there in the end.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"It happened on Sunday as we walked across Clapham Common towards the Old Town. 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