{"id":148795,"date":"2025-11-19T19:18:07","date_gmt":"2025-11-19T19:18:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/148795\/"},"modified":"2025-11-19T19:18:07","modified_gmt":"2025-11-19T19:18:07","slug":"idles-joe-talbot-and-former-arch-nemesis-sleaford-mods-jason-williamson-bury-the-hatchet-on-new-podcast-interview","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/148795\/","title":{"rendered":"IDLES’ Joe Talbot and former “arch-nemesis” Sleaford Mods’ Jason Williamson bury the hatchet on new podcast interview"},"content":{"rendered":"

Joe Talbot and Sleaford Mods<\/a>\u2018 Jason Williamson have well and truly buried the hatchet, appearing together in a new podcast interview.<\/p>\n

The IDLES<\/a> frontman had a candid conversation with Williamson when he invited him onto his Oh Gatekeeper podcast. The pair spoke openly about how they have tried to be less critical of others in recent years.<\/p>\n

Both made headlines with an apparent feud back in 2019, when Williamson shared his dislike of IDLES and accused them of \u201cappropriating a working class voice\u201d<\/a>, and then branded Fat White Family \u201ca Moby covers band\u201d in response<\/a> to them weighing in on the feud.<\/p>\n

Talbot later hit back<\/a> and said that there was \u201cno authenticity in just being a prick to everyone\u201d, as well as questioning: \u201cWhat the fuck is wrong with the guy?\u201d. <\/a>Barbs continued to be traded over the year.<\/p>\n

Earlier this year, when Sleaford Mods<\/a> announced their album \u2018The Demise Of Planet X\u2019 with the single \u2018The Good Life\u2019, Williamson told NME that he had turned a new page<\/a>, and had been going to therapy to work on being more empathetic towards others, rather than lashing out in a way that is \u201ccompletely ineffective.\u201d<\/p>\n

This coincided with the new outlook that Talbot said he was taking on in 2024, when he opened up to NME about trying to \u201cbreak those cycles\u201d of pessimism<\/a>, and realising that he was wanting to take a new approach to songwriting that was about \u201cneeding love\u201d.<\/p>\n

Now, both Talbot and Williamson have spoken about how they put their feud to one side, and have found common ground in the inspiration for their songwriting, their working class backgrounds, and their determination to be more open to others opinions. Talbot introduced the Mods frontman and former sparring partner as \u201can old and new friend\u201d.<\/p>\n

Towards the start of their podcast appearance, Talbot joked that he was \u201con a Zoom with my arch-nemesis\u201d, looking down the camera and smiling as Williamson laughed and called him a \u201cmassive bastard\u201d and quipped: \u201cWell fuck you for inviting me on\u201d.<\/p>\n

During the interview, the two frequently complimented each other\u2019s work and drive, as well as touching upon the difficulty faced by artists to make a living in creative fields.<\/p>\n

\u201cMaking it in music is rare, in terms of being paid [to do it] as a job,\u201d Talbot shared at one point, before describing the struggle creatives face between \u201ckeeping your head down and thinking \u2018I\u2019m just going to give up\u2019, or keeping your head down and [carrying on]\u201d.<\/p>\n

\u201cI used to constantly think both things,\u201d Williamson replied. \u201cIt\u2019s always been against you. There always been a wall to climb over, and I don\u2019t think that will ever change. If you\u2019re going to get it handed to you on a plate though, it\u2019s not going to be very interesting. That\u2019s just basic mathematics.\u201d<\/p>\n

Towards the end of the interview, the two also spoke about how they have both taken steps to build their own confidence, and push to be less harsh on others \u2013 often using songwriting as a way to channel their emotions.<\/p>\n

When asked by Talbot if he ever battled with the feeling of \u201cimposter syndrome\u201d, Williamson revealed that a lot of his frustrations came from \u201csadness\u201d more than insecurity.<\/p>\n

\u201cI\u2019ve come out of therapy for a little bit [and] I\u2019ve got a handle on quite a lot of it,\u201d he said, saying that while he is noticing progress in his personal life, there are \u201cstill lots of grey areas\u201d.<\/p>\n

\u201cI don\u2019t think I\u2019ve got a low opinion of myself. I don\u2019t think I\u2019m very glamorous and I\u2019ve tried to right a lot of wrongs in myself,\u201d he continued. \u201cCriticising others too much \u2014 and you know about that, obviously, because you\u2019ve had first-hand experience of that. I\u2019m trying to overcome some of these attributes that are unattractive and unintelligent.<\/p>\n

\u201cI\u2019m over them. But also at the same time I\u2019m aware that there\u2019s nothing wrong with feeling like that sometimes.\u201d<\/p>\n

Talbot agreed, saying that he has realised through processing his \u201canger\u201d that there can be a better way to channel his emotions. \u201cEmotionally\u2026 It\u2019s OK to be ugly. It\u2019s OK to feel ugly things,\u201d he shared. \u201cIf you\u2019re not given that allowance, you go around thinking you\u2019re the only one thinking \u2018he\u2019s a c**t\u2019.\u201d<\/p>\n

\u201cYou mentioned paranoia, that\u2019s what I was talking about in my therapy today,\u201d Talbot added. \u201cI was worried that I\u2019m too paranoid and not trusting enough. But if I don\u2019t say that in my music, it\u2019s not going to help me by bottling it up. And its not allowing anyone else to un-bottle it themselves.\u201d<\/p>\n

Sleaford Mods are set to release their new album \u2018The Demise Of Planet X\u2019 on Friday January 16, 2026. The record will mark the duo\u2019s eighth album, and feature guest appearances from the likes of soul singer Liam Bailey, grime MC Snowy, Life Without Buildings<\/a> singer Sue Tompkins, and Aldous Harding<\/a>.<\/p>\n

As for IDLES, the band opened up to NME earlier this summer<\/a> about their huge Bristol homecoming shows, and revealed that they are looking to commence a new \u201cera\u201d by writing some of their \u201cmost driven\u201d material to date.<\/p>\n

\u201cWe\u2019re [eventually] going to come back with a new show, with a new album,\u201d he said, discussing a follow-up to 2024\u2019s chart-topping \u2018TANGK<\/a>. \u201cThis album is more driven. That\u2019s all I can say, really. There\u2019s more a drive to it.\u201d<\/p>\n

Aside from working on new IDLES music, Talbot has recently joined forces with Gorillaz to share the reflective new single \u2018The God Of Lying\u2019.\u00a0 <\/a>In 2026, IDLES will also be joining Deftones<\/a> at All Points East<\/a>, and helping to open for Foo Fighters at their \u2018Take Cover\u2019 European stadium tour.<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Joe Talbot and Sleaford Mods\u2018 Jason Williamson have well and truly buried the hatchet, appearing together in a…\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":148796,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[28],"tags":[93,61,60,278,84549],"class_list":{"0":"post-148795","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-music","8":"tag-entertainment","9":"tag-ie","10":"tag-ireland","11":"tag-music","12":"tag-punk"},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/148795","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=148795"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/148795\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/148796"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=148795"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=148795"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=148795"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}