{"id":153879,"date":"2025-11-22T14:57:14","date_gmt":"2025-11-22T14:57:14","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/153879\/"},"modified":"2025-11-22T14:57:14","modified_gmt":"2025-11-22T14:57:14","slug":"stranger-things-has-turned-us-inside-out-and-upside-down-is-the-best-yet-to-come-the-irish-times","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/153879\/","title":{"rendered":"Stranger Things has turned us inside out and upside down. Is the best yet to come? \u2013 The Irish Times"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Television was turned upside down on July 15th, 2016, when <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/netflix\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/netflix\/\">Netflix<\/a> quietly debuted a new sci-fi series about a bunch of nerdy kids in a small town in the United States battling a monster inspired by the perennially unfashionable role-playing game Dungeons &amp; Dragons.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">A lot has happened in those nine years. Dungeons &amp; Dragons is no longer quite so uncool. Those kids are now well into early adulthood. And <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/culture\/tv-radio-web\/stranger-things-4-first-look-review-at-first-i-was-bored-then-i-was-bingeing-1.4885809\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/culture\/tv-radio-web\/stranger-things-4-first-look-review-at-first-i-was-bored-then-i-was-bingeing-1.4885809\">Stranger Things<\/a> has snatched the baton from Star Wars and Game of Thrones to become the biggest franchise in popular entertainment.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Still, for all that success, the Force is definitely not with Stranger Things as its fifth and final season arrives. Having had a charmed existence through its early years, the show has been dogged by trouble since it signed off on its fourth season, in 2022.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">These controversies have taken many forms, from the political to the personal, but together they threaten to puncture the warm bubble of nostalgia about the series\u2019 1980s setting that is so essential its charms.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">One of the first big flashpoints was in October 2023, when the actor <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/noah-schnapp\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/noah-schnapp\/\">Noah Schnapp<\/a>, who plays the teenage serial kidnap victim Will Byers, voiced his support for Israel \u2013 eliciting a predictably calm and measured response on social media. Schnapp, who is Jewish, was attacked for stating,  \u201cYou either stand with Israel or you stand with terrorism.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">A month later he went on Instagram to show off stickers that read \u201cZionism is sexy\u201d \u2013 for which he received further backlash. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Amid rumours that Netflix had put him under pressure to apologise, Schnapp would later clarify his remarks.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cI only want peace, safety, and security for all innocent people affected by this conflict,\u201d he said in a TikTok video shared with his 32 million followers. \u201cI\u2019ve had many open conversations with friends with a Palestinian background, and I think they are very important conversations to have, and I\u2019ve learned a lot.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Schnapp may have learned something about what the internet does to you when you put your head above the parapet. But did Netflix? It has certainly had its share of teachable moments, with <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/david-harbour\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/david-harbour\/\">David Harbour<\/a> \u2013 best known for playing the flinty Sheriff Jim Hopper \u2013 embarrassing the company with his unwelcome cameo as, it appears, a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/culture\/music\/2025\/10\/29\/lily-allens-new-album-is-racking-up-millions-of-listens-and-hitting-a-nerve-with-women-everywhere\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/culture\/music\/2025\/10\/29\/lily-allens-new-album-is-racking-up-millions-of-listens-and-hitting-a-nerve-with-women-everywhere\/\">cheating spouse<\/a> on <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/lily-allen\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/lily-allen\/\">Lily Allen<\/a>\u2019s new <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/culture\/music\/review\/2025\/10\/27\/lily-allen-west-end-girl-review-unflinching-account-of-doomed-relationship-is-a-tough-listen\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/culture\/music\/review\/2025\/10\/27\/lily-allen-west-end-girl-review-unflinching-account-of-doomed-relationship-is-a-tough-listen\/\">tell-all divorce album<\/a>, West End Girl. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph\">When we started, Netflix was an underdog, we were an underdog, and everyone loves a good underdog story. So it is a strange thing, 10 years later, to be the opposite of that. It\u2019s a little surreal<\/p>\n<p>\u2014 \u00a0Matt &amp; Ross Duffer<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">He has also been at the centre of bullying accusations made by his costar <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/millie-bobby-brown\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/millie-bobby-brown\/\">Millie Bobby Brown<\/a> \u2013 aka the psychic orphan Eleven \u2013 who is reported to have filed a formal \u201charassment and bullying\u201d complaint against Harbour before cameras started rolling on season five.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">He obliquely referenced these recent quasi-scandals when the Spanish edition of Esquire magazine asked whether there was anything about his life he would change.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cI would change either everything or nothing,\u201d he said. \u201cYou either accept your path completely and realise that even the pain and the slip-ups and the mistakes are all part of the journey, and that there\u2019s truth and growth, wisdom and deeper empathy and connection in all that.\u201d <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Rumblings about friction between Brown and Harbour overshadowed the new season\u2019s Los Angeles premiere, on November 6th. Speaking on the red carpet, its producer Shawn Levy did his best to minimise claims of bad blood on set, claiming that reports range from wildly inaccurate to even more inaccurate. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cThere\u2019s so much noise around it, but the truth is that we view this crew and this cast as family and so we treat each other with respect, and that\u2019s always been bedrock,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">With the first half of the final season arriving on Wednesday, November 26th \u2013 the remaining episodes follow on Christmas Day and New Year\u2019s Eve \u2013 Netflix will be anxious to learn if any of the negative background noise affects the show. <\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" data-chromatic=\"ignore\" alt=\"Stranger Things Season 5: Gaten Matarazzo as Dustin Henderson, Finn Wolfhard as Mike Wheeler, Caleb McLaughlin as Lucas Sinclair, and Noah Schnapp as Will Byers. Photograph: Netflix &#xA9; 2025\" class=\"c-image\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/JGLDJ3UI2DHTTLRDRTVKPHPG5I.jpg\"   width=\"800\" height=\"398\"\/>Stranger Things Season 5: Gaten Matarazzo as Dustin Henderson, Finn Wolfhard as Mike Wheeler, Caleb McLaughlin as Lucas Sinclair, and Noah Schnapp as Will Byers. Photograph: Netflix \u00a9 2025 <img decoding=\"async\" data-chromatic=\"ignore\" alt=\"Stranger Things Season 5: Millie Bobby Brown as Eleven and Finn Wolfhard as Mike Wheeler. Photograph: Netflix &#xA9; 2025 \" class=\"c-image\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/MZXJAHBBM3HZM55KVYCZJEOHXA.jpg\"   width=\"800\" height=\"400\"\/>Stranger Things Season 5: Millie Bobby Brown as Eleven and Finn Wolfhard as Mike Wheeler. Photograph: Netflix \u00a9 2025  <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">But the odds are that the series\u2019 global popularity will bulldoze through any controversies involving the cast and crew. In a world where even the most popular franchise can come unstuck \u2013 *cough* Star Wars \u2013 Stranger Things feels too big to fail.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Too big to fail and too influential to ignore, even if you\u2019re not a fan of kids battling interdimensional monsters. Set in the fictional town of Hawkins in the mid-1980s, the Netflix juggernaut has fuelled an ongoing boom in Ronald Reagan-era nostalgia. As we joined Will, Mike, Dustin and Lucas on their bikes, roving around the suburbs, a new generation discovered the \u201ckids on bikes\u201d genre as created by <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/steven-spielberg\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/steven-spielberg\/\">Steven Spielberg<\/a>\u2019s ET and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/stephen-king\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/stephen-king\/\">Stephen King<\/a>\u2019s It.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/matt-duffer\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/matt-duffer\/\">Matt<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/ross-duffer\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/ross-duffer\/\">Ross Duffer<\/a>, the brothers who created Stranger Things, know how to spin a thrilling tale. That much will be plain to anyone who sat, white-knuckled, through the finale of season four, in which the villainous Vecna tries to open a rift between Hawkins and the hellish pocket universe the kids have dubbed the Upside Down.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">But their true talent may lie in their ability to take random strands of 1980s culture and synthesise the mishmash into something cohesive and coherent. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Vecna, for instance, with his deathly gaze and scorched skin, was clearly inspired by Clive Barker\u2019s dimension-hopping S&amp;M enthusiast Pinhead, from the 1987 film Hellraiser. Similarly, the reveal in season three of a secret Russian base beneath Hawkins winked at Red Dawn and other \u201cred panic\u201d films of the 1980s, while the quartet of Mike, Lucas, Dustin and Lucas carries echoes of the preteen protagonists in Spielberg\u2019s 1985 adventure The Goonies.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Even the lexicography is a tribute to the past. The Stranger Things typography that introduces each episode is a take on the distinctive font adorning the 1980s edition of the Stephen King anthology Needful Things. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph b-it-article-body__interstitial-link\">[\u00a0<a aria-label=\"Open related story\" class=\"c-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/culture\/tv-radio\/2025\/11\/17\/the-beast-in-me-review-claire-danes-thriller-is-hokier-than-fair-city-but-viewers-will-be-hooked\/\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">The Beast in Me review: Claire Danes thriller is hokier than Fair City but viewers will be hookedOpens in new window<\/a>\u00a0]<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The chilly synth score, by Kyle Dixon and Michael Stein, for its part, is a nod toward the retro-future music John Carpenter wrote for movies such as The Thing and Christine (a King adaptation). And that\u2019s without mentioning the references strewn throughout the script to Alien, Altered States, A Nightmare on Elm Street, John Hughes\u2019s The Breakfast Club, Tom Cruise\u2019s breakout Risky Business, The Terminator, Gremlins and Harrison Ford\u2019s Witness.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Nor can we forget the remarkable outbreak of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/culture\/music\/2022\/06\/22\/kate-bush-running-up-that-hill-was-originally-called-a-deal-with-god-but-we-had-to-drop-that-name\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/culture\/music\/2022\/06\/22\/kate-bush-running-up-that-hill-was-originally-called-a-deal-with-god-but-we-had-to-drop-that-name\/\">Kate Bush mania<\/a> among Gen-Zers when her song Running Up That Hill (A Deal With God) featured in season four. Though hardly obscure, the tune nonetheless became a global hit all over again, leading <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/kate-bush\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/kate-bush\/\">Bush<\/a> to declare that the whole world had gone mad.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Then there\u2019s the Dungeons &amp; Dragons factor. Stranger Things wasn\u2019t the first to use the game \u2013 in ET, Elliott and his friends play D&amp;D the night the extraterrestrial arrives on Earth. But Stranger Things made it popular to a degree anyone involved in the hobby would have thought unthinkable.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Just this year the game\u2019s publisher unveiled a \u201cWelcome to the Hellfire Club\u201d edition, named after the gaming group that Mike and Dustin join in high school. On its cover, Stranger Things\u2019 small-town metal headbanger Eddie Munson sits behind his Dungeon Masters screen, arms wide in a welcoming gesture.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">There was nothing random about Stranger Things\u2019 championing of Dungeons &amp; Dragons. The Duffer brothers grew up in the 1990s, when their geeky obsessions included making home-made movies and playing the collectable card game Magic: The Gathering. They were outsiders \u2013 and Stranger Things was their tribute to weirdos everywhere, as they told me in 2016. <\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" data-chromatic=\"ignore\" alt=\"Stranger Things Season 5: Finn Wolfhard as Mike Wheeler, Caleb McLaughlin as Lucas Sinclair, Natalia Dyer as Nancy Wheeler, Joe Keery as Steve Harrington, Charlie Heaton as Jonathan Byers, and Gaten Matarazzo as Dustin Henderson. Photograph: Netflix &#xA9; 2025 \" class=\"c-image\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/YDZCXZE3YRRJBH6BDQFDSOBY2I.jpg\"   width=\"800\" height=\"398\"\/>Stranger Things Season 5: Finn Wolfhard as Mike Wheeler, Caleb McLaughlin as Lucas Sinclair, Natalia Dyer as Nancy Wheeler, Joe Keery as Steve Harrington, Charlie Heaton as Jonathan Byers, and Gaten Matarazzo as Dustin Henderson. Photograph: Netflix \u00a9 2025  <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cThat was the most autobiographical part of the show,\u201d Matt said. \u201cWe played D&amp;D and Magic: The Gathering. That was our obsession, along with video games. There is a lot of us in those characters. We were definitely nerds.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">They were upfront in that interview about setting out to craft a love letter to the movies and books they had grown up adoring. \u201cSteven Spielberg films were huge touchstones for us,\u201d Matt Duffer said. \u201cWe wanted to evoke the sense of wonder we remember from our childhood from ET and from Stephen King novels.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">These outsiders are now in charge of one of the biggest franchises in popular entertainment. The irony is not lost on them. \u201cWhen we started, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/netflix\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/netflix\/\">Netflix<\/a> was an underdog, we were an underdog, and everyone loves a good underdog story,\u201d they said recently. \u201cSo it is a strange thing, 10 years later, to be the opposite of that. It\u2019s a little surreal.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Geeks were already going mainstream before Stranger Things \u2013 look at the success of the Marvel Cinematic Universe and Game of Thrones. But Stranger Things took the trend to another level. Nerd culture wasn\u2019t simply part of the show\u2019s identity but the rocket fuel that powered the entire endeavour.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">That journey is coming to an end. Whether the pay-off is worth the long wait since season four remains to be seen. Whatever happens, anyone who has been with the show since 2016 will agree it has been one hell (fire) of a trip. Stranger Things has turned us inside out and upside down \u2013 and the best is potentially yet to come. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Stranger Things season five begins on Netflix on Thursday, November 27th. Episodes five to seven debut on St Stephen\u2019s Day, with the finale on New Year\u2019s Day<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Television was turned upside down on July 15th, 2016, when Netflix quietly debuted a new sci-fi series about&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":153880,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[8],"tags":[65772,93,61,60,86887,64221,86885,6911,1868,86884,86886,21637,18586],"class_list":{"0":"post-153879","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-entertainment","8":"tag-david-harbour","9":"tag-entertainment","10":"tag-ie","11":"tag-ireland","12":"tag-kate-bush","13":"tag-lily-allen","14":"tag-matt-duffer","15":"tag-millie-bobby-brown","16":"tag-netflix","17":"tag-noah-schapp","18":"tag-ross-duffer","19":"tag-stephen-king","20":"tag-steven-spielberg"},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/153879","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=153879"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/153879\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/153880"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=153879"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=153879"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=153879"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}