{"id":182515,"date":"2025-12-09T07:33:08","date_gmt":"2025-12-09T07:33:08","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/182515\/"},"modified":"2025-12-09T07:33:08","modified_gmt":"2025-12-09T07:33:08","slug":"is-rugby-failing-its-supporters-the-irish-times","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/182515\/","title":{"rendered":"Is rugby failing its supporters? \u2013 The Irish Times"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cThe Chatham House Rule applies,\u201d said our very welcoming and humorous Master of Ceremonies. Those assembled then settled down for lunch, but not before they\u2019d raised the roof with a rousing rendition of the \u201cHoly City\u201d hymn. The \u2018Rule\u2019 is a very valuable tool, allowing debated issues to be discussed after the event, but not to be attributed to any speaker. So, here goes, some thoughts from true rugby supporters.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">There was a lot of chat about the recent statements by <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/leinster-rugby\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/leinster-rugby\">Leinster<\/a> coach <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/jacques-nienaber\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/jacques-nienaber\">Jacques Nienaber<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/rassie-erasmus\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/rassie-erasmus\">Rassie Erasmus<\/a>. Essentially, Nienaber has told us that he misses the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/springboks\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/springboks\">Springbok<\/a> set-up, and Erasmus has basically said that he would welcome him back with open arms. Whenever he does return, he will do so with a heck of a lot of inside information; it\u2019s unavoidable, and, actually, perfectly normal. It\u2019s simply an inevitable consequence of coaches moving clubs.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Nienaber has wisely made a further statement, confirming his total commitment to Leinster until his contract concludes, which is in May 2027, less than six months out from the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/rugby-world-cup\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/rugby-world-cup\">World Cup<\/a>. There was no animosity towards the coach in the debate, which centred only around the date of his departure. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The consensus was, given the totality of the statements, that it would be better to amicably advance the departure to the end of this season. One interesting suggestion was that when Nienaber does go, then maybe Leinster get Irishman Jerry Flannery, who is currently doing a fine job with the South African defence.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Inevitably, the scrum was the subject of debate. Well, not so much debate, rather heartfelt frustration and annoyance. Everybody is fed up to the back teeth with what is going on. Added to the long, long delays as the TMO finds reasons to call up the referee, the view was that the scrum has to be fixed &#8211; it is ruining the game. It has become something which was never intended, laced with result-altering penalties. Surely, in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/world-rugby\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/world-rugby\">World Rugby<\/a>, there is someone who is prepared to take out the tool box.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The issue raised its ugly head again in several matches over the weekend, including Leinster\u2019s match against a very weak Harlequins team. They left their star international players at home, which doesn\u2019t say much for the integrity of the tournament. Leinster were very indifferent, until they eventually pulled away. But things will have to improve greatly if they are going to make a realistic challenge for the trophy.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" data-chromatic=\"ignore\" alt=\"Investec Champions Cup Round 1, Recreation Ground, Bath, England 6\/12\/2025. Bath Rugby vs Munster . Munster's Tom Ahern in a line out. Photograph: INPHO\/Dan Clohessy\" class=\"c-image\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/YY7S3TJSG5LCKQR5J76TD7RMWY.jpg\"   width=\"800\" height=\"511\"\/>Investec Champions Cup Round 1, Recreation Ground, Bath, England 6\/12\/2025. Bath Rugby vs Munster . Munster&#8217;s Tom Ahern in a line out. Photograph: INPHO\/Dan Clohessy <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Referee Craig Evans did everything in his power to get the scrums to behave. He spent the evening penalising, free-kicking, resetting, and verbally cajoling the two packs, without ever finding a solution. It was nigh on an impossible task &#8211; are people really happy to fork out their well-earned dosh to watch this carry-on?<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Evans has shown some improvement recently, and doesn\u2019t take too much time reviewing replays before making his decision. His call to award a deliberate knock-on penalty try to \u2018Quins was right on the money, even though Jamison Gibson-Park and Garry Ringrose were covering. The reality was that it was improbable that they\u2019d succeed in their mission, so therefore it was probable a try would have been scored. We have seen penalty tries incorrectly not given for this very type of unlikely cover, so I\u2019m totally with the referee on this one.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph b-it-article-body__interstitial-link\">[\u00a0<a aria-label=\"Open related story\" class=\"c-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/sport\/rugby\/2025\/12\/02\/jacques-nienaber-rejects-questions-over-his-commitment-to-leinster\/\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Jacques Nienaber rejects questions over his commitment to LeinsterOpens in new window<\/a>\u00a0]<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">With the scrums having been flushed away, the lineout is in real danger of following. It is not far from becoming an unstructured shambles. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/munster-rugby\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/munster-rugby\">Munster<\/a> are not alone in standing off the lineout until just before the throw. Players are supposed to line up without delay, and, yet, the referees are being unwisely tolerant. All of the very recent ills in this set-piece are easy to remedy. But it needs to be done before it all becomes a nasty habit, as has happened at scrum-time.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Very shortly, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/ronan-ogara\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/ronan-ogara\">Ronan O\u2019Gara<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/la-rochelle\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/la-rochelle\">La Rochelle<\/a> chairman Vincent Merling will face a disciplinary hearing. O\u2019Gara was incensed when a leaping Antoine Hastoy earned the fastest red card (34 seconds) in Top 14 history; it was courtesy of his raised foot into the face of an opponent in their recent match against Pau. O\u2019Gara suggested that the referee was influenced by the sight of the resultant blood.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" data-chromatic=\"ignore\" alt=\"La Rochelle's Irish coach Ronan O'Gara (C) leaves the field after receiving a red card during the French Top 14 rugby union match between Section Paloise Bearn Pyrenees (Pau) and Stade Rochelais (La Rochelle) at Stade du Hameau in Pau, south-western France on November 30, 2025. (Photo by Gaizka IROZ \/ AFP via Getty Images)\" class=\"c-image\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/XNNJDHEHV5HWFNYGEAQONBI5LI.jpg\"   width=\"800\" height=\"533\"\/>La Rochelle&#8217;s Irish coach Ronan O&#8217;Gara (C) leaves the field after receiving a red card during the French Top 14 rugby union match between Section Paloise Bearn Pyrenees (Pau) and Stade Rochelais (La Rochelle) at Stade du Hameau in Pau, south-western France on November 30, 2025. (Photo by Gaizka IROZ \/ AFP via Getty Images) <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Ironically, on Saturday, there was a similar, if not as dangerous, boot by Leicester\u2019s George Pearson into La Rochelle\u2019s Davit Niniashvili. It rightly earned yellow from referee Andy Brace. Pearson actually was upended, by Niniavishili, before he landed, so a second card would not have gone astray. Some claim that it\u2019s a reflexive rebalancing movement by the catcher when he is in the air, so clarification is needed. With defenders now having to ensure that the catcher is accessible, rebalancing might become quite the fashion.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">It\u2019s difficult to know how much the seriousness of an injury might influence the judiciary. Each case is reviewed on its merits, there\u2019s no formula. We all saw the completely intemperate look on Eben Etzebeth\u2019s face as <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/sport\/2025\/12\/04\/south-africas-eben-etzebeth-receives-12-week-ban-for-eye-gouging-against-wales\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/sport\/2025\/12\/04\/south-africas-eben-etzebeth-receives-12-week-ban-for-eye-gouging-against-wales\/\">he delivered his thumb into the eye of Wales\u2019 Alex Mann<\/a>, who was not accused of a similar provoking act. With just 90 seconds left, and South Africa in front by 73-0, it\u2019s impossible to understand the egregious act. The judiciary are understandably slow to conclude that foul play actions are intentional, but in this case they did, and suspended the player for 12 matches. Enough? Not in my opinion, and not for many others who spoke to me about it.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">And here\u2019s where the injury-influence issue comes in. It was a piece of good fortune that Mann\u2019s eyeball was not ruptured, blood streaming. Had that happened, the South African lock would surely have been looking at a far longer suspension. But there was no blood, and Etzebeth rode his luck.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph b-it-article-body__interstitial-link\">[\u00a0<a aria-label=\"Open related story\" class=\"c-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/sport\/rugby\/2025\/12\/05\/eben-etzebeths-suspension-is-lenient-for-such-a-repugnant-offence\/\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Eben Etzebeth\u2019s suspension is lenient for such a repugnant offenceOpens in new window<\/a>\u00a0]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"\u201cThe Chatham House Rule applies,\u201d said our very welcoming and humorous Master of Ceremonies. Those assembled then settled&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":182516,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[9],"tags":[32728,61,60,11287,11897,112,59164],"class_list":["post-182515","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-sports","tag-champions-cup","tag-ie","tag-ireland","tag-leinster-rugby","tag-munster-rugby","tag-sports","tag-the-whistleblower"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/182515","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=182515"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/182515\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/182516"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=182515"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=182515"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=182515"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}