{"id":193125,"date":"2025-12-15T15:47:06","date_gmt":"2025-12-15T15:47:06","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/193125\/"},"modified":"2025-12-15T15:47:06","modified_gmt":"2025-12-15T15:47:06","slug":"mainoo-almost-maguire-levels-of-slow-as-loan-now-best-option","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/193125\/","title":{"rendered":"Mainoo &#8216;almost Maguire levels of slow&#8217; as loan now best option"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Why don\u2019t Manchester United try Kobbie Mainoo as a 10? If not, send him out on loan to a club like Napoli.<\/p>\n<p>We also have some mails on Arsenal and Tottenham. Watch Man Utd v Bournemouth and mail us at theeditor@football365.com<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Time for Man Utd to set Mainoo free\u2026<\/p>\n<p>I wrote in nearly a year ago now talking about the futures of United\u2019s young players after stories were leaked of how INEOS would consider selling these talents to fund a rebuild. Regarding Kobbie Mainoo my opinion was;<\/p>\n<p>\u2018Our Stockport Seedorf may never live up to his potential or our expectation but he is the shining light in this team. In the future, like Rashford, we may be discussing a transfer away that is best for all parties but that isn\u2019t where we are now, no fee could be justified to the fans.\u2019<\/p>\n<p>Unfortunately I think we\u2019ve reached that point where Mainoo leaving, albeit on loan, is best for all parties.<\/p>\n<p>I understand why Amorim is reluctant to play Kobbie in the midfield pivot. He is almost Maguire levels of slow and too often have opposition players simply glided past him through the middle. The work demanded of the two midfielders is beyond what Mainoo can offer, fair enough.<\/p>\n<p>What I fail to understand is why he\u2019s not at least getting some minutes as one of the 10s. Mainoo excels in the small spaces, his control and dribbling are fantastic, he can beat a few men then shoot, or pass well enough to create a shooting chance for a team mate, or simply rotate his position to drag away a defender. This is the essence of what Cunha is tasked with in Amorim\u2019s system.<\/p>\n<p>Cunha has only played 63% of the available league minutes so far and decent chunks of that in the striker role. So really that left 10 position has been available for about half the games so far and Mainoo hasn\u2019t been played there once. It\u2019s kind of baffling really. Mount has had a few good games and I\u2019m pleased about that but even Zirkzee is getting more minutes at the moment and he\u2019s been consistently bad.<\/p>\n<p>If there was some personal thing, or disciplinary issue then we\u2019d know about it. Amorim has not been hesitant in publicly revealing such things previously. He seemingly just does not rate him. Whatever Amorim looks for in his players, that one indescribable quality which makes us like people, he doesn\u2019t see in Mainoo.<\/p>\n<p>A loan away to Napoli seems like a great option at the moment. Let him go and play, rekindle his development in a league where his qualities should shine. Then in the summer we\u2019ll see, perhaps the manager changes his mind. That feels unlikely though and so if Amorim continues in the job then a sale would be the only realistic option.<\/p>\n<p>Some fans will never forgive the manager if that is the case and they shouldn\u2019t. There is very little which emotionally connects us with our football clubs anymore. A prodigiously talented local lad coming through the club\u2019s academy to score the deciding goal in an FA Cup final is just about as good as it can get. Keeping that player from the fans is bad enough, selling him would be tragic.<br \/>Dave, Manchester (writing before the Bournemouth game so perhaps I\u2019ve poked fate sufficiently and Kobbie comes on to score the winner)<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Man Utd fan gets weirdly angry before match<\/p>\n<p>Amorim needs to shut the f*** up and start winning games, stop naming and shaming our own players for no rhyme or reason other than to justify his own stupidity. Stop talking, start winning. All he has done since coming to United is talk a big game with zero follow up in results.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.football365.com\/news\/ruben-amorim-rampage-kids-brutally-attacked-mediawatch\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Throwing the academy players under the bus by naming names<\/a>, when not even asked to name anyone, and still adamant over his own stupid useless formation while always trying to weasle and talk his way out of one disaster after another.<\/p>\n<p>I don\u2019t care if we win or lose against Bournemouth tonight, this level of utter negligence, stupidity and profound dumbness is reaching a breaking point. I have supported every United manager since Fergie till the day they were sacked, no questions asked, even LVG &amp; ETH. But never has one manager been so hellbent on randomly just putting down his own players for no actual reason. When others did it at least there was an agenda to either motivate them or throw them out of the team.<\/p>\n<p>Amorim makes some of the worst subs in the game, persisted with Ugarte &amp; Dalot when the 3 academy players he names are much better than those two on any day of the week and twice on Sunday.<\/p>\n<p>So again I say to you Mr. Amorim. Shut the f*** up, do your job, or get the f*** out. Please do not speak sh*t in public about the youth team players where the U21 team is 2nd in the table, Amass is the club\u2019s player of the month (November) &amp; Toby Collyer is out with a goddamn injury. You would know all of this if you cared to check in rather than talk sh*t in a random press con.<\/p>\n<p>None of them are talking in the press about how one clown is still unable to win 3 games in a row and unable to win against relegation fodder. So show them the same respect and again, kindly, shut the f**k up.<\/p>\n<p>Thanks,<br \/>Aman<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Can Tommy Frank burn inside?<\/p>\n<p>I didn\u2019t think we\u2019d be here already. Cracked Spurs badges and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.football365.com\/news\/next-tottenham-manager-thomas-frank-sacked\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Top 10 next Spurs manager articles<\/a> but fair\u2019s fair, the football is dross and the natives are understandably getting very restless.<\/p>\n<p>Frank is making a real pig\u2019s ear of this. I have some sympathy but nothing about his decision-making looks like he understands the task. Playing PSG and Man City in August was a curse. It allowed him to slip into the Thomas Frank brand of football early.<\/p>\n<p>Spence like a lot of the team was having a hideous game yesterday. He didn\u2019t do anything in the first half to suggest he was going to get better in the second. Davies was actually a good shout. But that\u2019s a change to be made at half time along with some tweaks to a moribund attack. You\u2019re probably going to get a lot of letters about this, but Davies and Paulhina coming on at 2 \u2013 0 down is madness. A lot of fans want this to work out \u2013 they don\u2019t want another manager, but those substitutions are impossible to understand.<\/p>\n<p>Luckily, Spence mugged him off again. Which means he\u2019s going to have to bare his teeth. Frank has hit rock bottom, but he\u2019s not dead and buried. Spence can\u2019t play on Saturday if Frank wants to be taken seriously. He talks about burning inside, but I don\u2019t see any fire in his belly. He has a pragmatic style of football and a pragmatic personality. Romero seems to like him. Others think he\u2019s a doughnut. Those that think he\u2019s a doughnut need to be dealt with. There\u2019s also the small matter of the football getting better and him settling on a system that works against an improving LFC but learning that he can\u2019t be everyone\u2019s mate is his biggest challenge.<\/p>\n<p>Two choices \u2013 either he throws Spence under the bus \u2013 no one\u2019s going to use it on LinkedIn as a way to motivate teams, but it might buy him some respect and time. Or he goes full Pacino in \u2018Any Given Sunday\u2019, pours his heart out and tells them he doesn\u2019t like the face he sees in the mirror anymore. Either is fine. Either will show he\u2019s burning inside\u2026but it\u2019s now time to mean it.<\/p>\n<p>Cheers<br \/>Andrew, Woodford Green<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>No Arsenal crisis<\/p>\n<p>Arsenal beat Brugge away with a much changed team, did actually beat Wolves on Saturday after losing in heartbreaking fashion the week before and are still top of the league and Champions League, aren\u2019t they? Or have I just made that up?<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019ve never seen so much <a href=\"https:\/\/www.football365.com\/news\/viktor-gyokeres-lemon-offload-premier-league-mailbox\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">negative coverage over a team doing well<\/a>, coping with injuries and WINNING games.<\/p>\n<p>A few seasons ago, Arsenal drew 3-3 with Southampton at home in a similar fashion to the Wolves game on Saturday. These games can happen. The difference is, this time round, Arsenal dusted themselves off and went again and got the winner. In a period where it\u2019s a game every few days, it\u2019s the points, not the performances, that matter.<\/p>\n<p>Arsenal may not win the league (I\u2019m not sure why you have to say, in December, why any team definitely will or will not win a 38 game competition played over 10 months) but I find it utterly bizarre short term-ism that every result is defining\u2026and the negative reaction to a positive result is just mind-boggling.<\/p>\n<p>It seems to be seeping into this site\u2019s writing as well with <a href=\"https:\/\/www.football365.com\/news\/arsenal-so-bad-that-late-late-victory-over-wolves-doesnt-even-have-hallmark-of-champions\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Dave Tickner\u2019s article about the match<\/a> and not being able to decide whether the Wolves results is a \u2018hallmark of champions\u2019 moment or if Arsenal are blowing it. It\u2019s one game Dave. A few weeks ago, other writers were falling over themselves to crown Arsenal the champions. Now the discourse has changed. And yes, I understand the point of having different writers is to have different opinions and there shouldn\u2019t be a \u2018company line\u2019 as that would be boring. But rational perspective should also be applied. Otherwise, you\u2019re going to need to start \u2018Mediawatching\u2019 yourselves!<br \/>Stewart<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Blame Arteta, not Gyokeres<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.football365.com\/news\/viktor-gyokeres-lemon-offload-premier-league-mailbox\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">What do you mean trying to spite Gyokeres\u2019 efforts??<\/a> Tell me one striker that Osama Bin Teta has done well with, apart from Emery\u2019s Auba \u2013 who is still banging by the way at 36!!!<\/p>\n<p>This man was an average player and is as a coach!! He can\u2019t coach attack!! Too predictable!<\/p>\n<p>How can you rubbish a striker who is consistently unserviced?? Whose fault that a defender (Timber) comes in to take his spot to head the ball (twice now in crucial moments) in an attacking phase of play, not a setpiece??<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s sad you\u2019re seeing everything that has played out in the last 4 years play out again, and the new striker is who you single out for scapegoating, instead of the manager that plays Taliban football.<br \/>Drainer Ice<\/p>\n<p>PS. They\u2019ve not beaten any of the top 5 teams of last season (bar Newcastle). So much for being the \u201cbest team in the world\u201d!! No wonder we are the most hated fanbase in the world! Hubris!! The grand delusions we possess!!!<\/p>\n<p>READ: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.football365.com\/news\/premier-league-tables-man-city-resurgence-arsenal-big-chances-possession-v-top-half-form\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Five tables show why Arsenal should fear Man City resurgence<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Arsenal and the bottle job<\/p>\n<p>Holy Moly, Imagine playing worst team the league has ever seen and can\u2019t score at home against them plus needed own goals to got the 3 points. Some called it champions\u2019 luck but I will set the record straight and tell Arsenal fan to brace up for another disappointed season with so much promising start.<\/p>\n<p>You need to banished that Emery demon that is haunting your sweet dreams and lastly is the question to Arsenal fans, if Emery top Arteta in the league or worst case scenario he won the league which is very slim. Did you continue to trust the process?<br \/>Mudashiru LFC Ibadan (I knew to find your own Klopp is not easy but Rodgers must be sacked if you want to progress to another level)<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>A short rant about xG<\/p>\n<p>Anyone who say Rogers\u2019 second yesterday, would have seen an in=form player, given space to shoot and score from 25 yards out. Cracker of a goal.<\/p>\n<p>The xG on this was 0.02. So xG felt that a professional forward running onto a ball in aces of space would only likely score 2 out of a 100 times. Absolute horseshit. How this has become stat is beyond me.<br \/>Paul<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Champions with the worst goal difference<\/p>\n<p>In 1998 AIK won the Swedish division scoring the least goals in the entire league, 26 goals in 25 games. I\u2019ve been trying to recreate this for over 20 years on Football Manager and it\u2019s impossible.<br \/>Nick Wilde<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Why don\u2019t Manchester United try Kobbie Mainoo as a 10? 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