{"id":194422,"date":"2025-12-16T09:13:08","date_gmt":"2025-12-16T09:13:08","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/194422\/"},"modified":"2025-12-16T09:13:08","modified_gmt":"2025-12-16T09:13:08","slug":"things-have-truly-become-nonsensical-in-the-champions-cup-the-irish-times","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/194422\/","title":{"rendered":"Things have truly become nonsensical in the Champions Cup \u2013 The Irish Times"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">So, another weekend has passed which encapsulated the good, the bad and the ugly of the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/champions-cup\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/champions-cup\/\">Champions Cup<\/a>. It can still reach parts that no other tournament can, but round two also showed that the Anglo-French ringleaders in the EPCR (European Professional Club Rugby) coup of 2014 have not only failed to deliver on their promises; they have actually made a brilliant competition worse. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">True, the organisers\u2019 hand was forced by the pandemic, and specifically Toulouse being ranked eighth in the Top 14 when the 2020-21 French season was abandoned. But far from making it a more elite 16-team competition, as promised, a 24-team format condensed into just four rounds of pool games simply isn\u2019t working. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">We are halfway through 48 pool matches, at the end of which just eight teams \u2013 one-third of competing sides \u2013 will be knocked out. Four of those will be redirected into the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/challenge-cup\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/challenge-cup\/\">Challenge Cup<\/a>. Effectively, under the current format, it is easier to qualify from the pool stages than be eliminated. That\u2019s nonsensical. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">As we have again seen over the last two weekends, increasingly clubs have decided to field weakened sides, especially away from home. This is partly because two wins, or even one, will be sufficient to earn a place in the knockout stages. And for what? For a round of 16 which has been shoehorned into the season a week before the quarter-finals. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Things reached a nadir over the weekend with regard to weakened sides all but giving their opponents a free five points. The tournament brought some of this on itself. While it\u2019s good to see the Stormers giving the Champions Cup a real go \u2013 and head coach John Dobson has said they feel they might do something special this season \u2013 the EPCR should never have allowed them choose Port Elizabeth, or Gqeberha, as their alternative home ground 800km away from Cape Town. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">As Cape Town Stadium was hosting the World Supercross event on Saturday, the Stormers\u2019 game against La Rochelle was moved to the Nelson Mandela Bay Stadium, meaning <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/ronan-ogara\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/ronan-ogara\/\">Ronan O\u2019Gara<\/a>\u2019s squad had to fly to Johannesburg and then take an extra flight to Port Elizabeth.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">One of O\u2019Gara\u2019s assistants, Romain Carmignani, told RugbyRama, \u201cI don\u2019t know who\u2019s organising this, but there are questions to be asked, especially about the players\u2019 health. You play in the rain, then move to 30-degree weather, then the following weekend you\u2019re back playing in two or three degrees. I\u2019m not sure that\u2019s a good idea. It\u2019s all about business. It\u2019s truly ridiculous and stupid.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" data-chromatic=\"ignore\" alt=\"A much-changed La Rochelle were well beaten by Stormers in Port Elizabeth. Photograph: Steve Haag Sports\/EJ Langner\/Inpho\" class=\"c-image\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/ZLJT75SK6NGEXLPNS2A5EBQV4U.jpg\"   width=\"800\" height=\"553\"\/>A much-changed La Rochelle were well beaten by Stormers in Port Elizabeth. Photograph: Steve Haag Sports\/EJ Langner\/Inpho <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Their captain, Gregory Alldritt, ventured: \u201cI\u2019d really like to understand the logic. We\u2019re playing the Stormers and we can\u2019t even play them in Cape Town. It makes for a ridiculous journey.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Accordingly, Alldritt et al were rested as O\u2019Gara made 14 changes to his starting XV, instead playing several teenagers and debutants. Given such a savage trip and upcoming Top 14 games against Bayonne, Toulon and Toulouse before returning to the Champions Cup in January, O\u2019Gara had little choice.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">To their credit, La Rochelle only trailed 21-14 after 15 minutes, before losing 42-21, but you can be sure they\u2019ll be locked and fully loaded at the Aviva Stadium in round three.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">No such excuses for Gloucester. They made 15 changes and kicked the leather off the ball while <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/sport\/rugby\/2025\/12\/13\/munster-finally-find-their-mojo-late-on-to-secure-bonus-point-win-over-gloucester\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/sport\/rugby\/2025\/12\/13\/munster-finally-find-their-mojo-late-on-to-secure-bonus-point-win-over-gloucester\/\">running down the clock against Munster<\/a>. Sunday was worse, as a weakened Bayonne played a winger at outhalf and a debutant flanker on the wing in losing 68-14 away to a Harlequins side which had restored front-liners rested against Leinster a week previously. Edinburgh, the Bulls and Pau lost with weakened sides away to Castres, Northampton and Bristol. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">In those four games, the hosts outscored the away sides by 212 to 31, or 33 tries to five. They were about as competitive as bull fights. After Bristol scored in the first and 11th minutes, one couldn\u2019t take any more. Even Brentford v Leeds United, not a classic, was preferable. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">What\u2019s the point of having teams in the competition who evidently couldn\u2019t care less whether they are in the Champions Cup or not?<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Yet there were also gems and any weekend\u2019s rugby that features Sacha Feinberg-Mngomezulu and Matthieu Jalibert cannot be all bad. The former had four try assists against La Rochelle, , two of which were particularly memorable. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Jalibert \u2013 who is playing better than ever and is evidently appreciated by Yannick Bru and Noel McNamara more than France head coach Fabien Galthie \u2013 scored another two tries in Bordeaux\u2019s 50-21 win over the Scarlets, who put up a good fight.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" data-chromatic=\"ignore\" alt=\"Bordeaux's Matthieu Jalibert is tackled by Eddie James of Scarlets during last Saturday's Champions Cup match at Stade Chaban-Delmas in Bordeaux. Photograph: Tom Maher\/Inpho\" class=\"c-image\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/JTYG3MILRFF3HJX7P5N5JHD25Y.jpg\"   width=\"800\" height=\"511\"\/>Bordeaux&#8217;s Matthieu Jalibert is tackled by Eddie James of Scarlets during last Saturday&#8217;s Champions Cup match at Stade Chaban-Delmas in Bordeaux. Photograph: Tom Maher\/Inpho <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">First, he instinctively picked up, chipped and gathered before scoring. Then, he handled a second time in finishing off a 65-metre try from a quick tap. \u201cHorrendously brilliant,\u201d observed Jonathan Davies on Premier Sports after Jalibert\u2019s first. \u201cThat\u2019s just naughty.\u201d His 50 minutes was enough for man of the match, before affording Joey Carbery a classy half-hour. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">And amid Sunday\u2019s bull fighting, there was a highly charged, high-quality belter between Toulon and Bath at a throbbing Stade Felix Mayol. The home side\u2019s 45-34 win has left Pool 1 wide open.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Glasgow\u2019s extraordinary 28-21 comeback victory over Toulouse at Scotstoun on Saturday night has to be considered the performance of the weekend and probably the best one-off win by a Scottish side in the tournament.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">After all, Toulouse travelled to Glasgow at full strength, with the great man Antoine Dupont scoring within six minutes of his first start since suffering that knee injury against Ireland in March. They led 21-0 at half-time. The Warriors are contenders now, and like never before. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">That result should underline the merit in Leinster <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/sport\/rugby\/2025\/12\/12\/below-par-leinster-grind-out-win-against-leicester-in-champions-cup\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/sport\/rugby\/2025\/12\/12\/below-par-leinster-grind-out-win-against-leicester-in-champions-cup\/\">winning a 29th pool game in succession<\/a> in the Welford Road bearpit on Friday night. Imagine the reaction if Leinster lost a pool game from 21-0 up anywhere?<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Considering the adversity Leinster came through, that could stand to them, ala the 6-5 quarter-final win in Harlequins in 2009. It was striking how much more pleased Caelan Doris and co were  in comparison to the aftermath of their 45-28 win over Harlequins at the Aviva Stadium a week earlier. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">As ever with Leinster, though, whether winning with a bonus point or not winning with one, they\u2019re damned if they do win and damned if they don\u2019t.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/sport\/rugby\/2025\/12\/16\/gerry-thornley-format-that-rewards-mediocrity-leaves-champions-cup-in-a-bad-place\/mailto:gerry.thornley@irishtimes.com\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">gerry.thornley@irishtimes.com<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"So, another weekend has passed which encapsulated the good, the bad and the ugly of the Champions Cup.&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":194423,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[9],"tags":[11182,103484,61,60,3654,112,11581],"class_list":["post-194422","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-sports","tag-action","tag-european-professional-club-rugby","tag-ie","tag-ireland","tag-rugby","tag-sports","tag-urc"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/194422","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=194422"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/194422\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/194423"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=194422"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=194422"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=194422"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}