{"id":204733,"date":"2025-12-22T07:26:05","date_gmt":"2025-12-22T07:26:05","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/204733\/"},"modified":"2025-12-22T07:26:05","modified_gmt":"2025-12-22T07:26:05","slug":"the-saipan-film-makes-the-conflict-between-keane-and-mccarthy-less-interesting-the-irish-times","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/204733\/","title":{"rendered":"The Saipan film makes the conflict between Keane and McCarthy less interesting \u2013 The Irish Times"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">I find it hard to pick my favourite anything, but I do have a favourite film: Amadeus. We had it on video when I was a child and so I must have watched it 40 or 50 times. The world of the film made such an impression on me that, to this day, I will watch not only anything starring F Murray Abraham, but almost anything with wigs and tricorne hats. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">I know that on the level of strict historical accuracy, Amadeus is little short of an abomination. It uses real historical figures to tell a completely invented story. Although named for Mozart, the film is really about Antonio Salieri, portrayed here as a bitter celibate, consumed with envy, who schemes to sabotage Mozart\u2019s career and ultimately hounds him to his death. The real Salieri was a married father of eight and his relations with Mozart seem to have been pretty standard for professional colleagues. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The thing is, this fake story also happens to be true \u2013 on the emotional level at least \u2013 because we\u2019ve all felt some version of how Salieri feels: we\u2019ve all experienced the horror of realising a rival is better than us, burned with envy and resentment, indulged the rush of vengeful fantasy \u2026 So this is a story everyone can relate to. If the price of telling it is trashing the reputation of an otherwise obscure composer, it\u2019s one most of us are happy to pay. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">You might object: why use these historical figures at all? Why not just invent fictional characters to tell the same story? Because it just feels more interesting when the people are \u201creal\u201d and you can imagine the story is \u201ctrue\u201d. The presence of the authentic genius Mozart (and his music) lends the story a glamour and substance it might not otherwise possess. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Those in favour of fictionalising history could even venture the view that \u201caccuracy\u201d is the biggest myth of all. Two people who experienced the same event can emerge with wildly varying accounts \u2013 who then is to say what \u201creally\u201d happened? Twentieth-century physics revealed that uncertainty goes all the way down to the atomic level. You can know that the electron is in X position, or that it\u2019s moving with Y momentum, but you can\u2019t know both at the same time . . . <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">(At which point, maybe it helps to imagine the reaction of the real Salieri if somebody had shown him Amadeus. Would he come out of it saying, well, they\u2019ve taken one or two liberties with the details, but that was emotionally so true? I think we all know the answer to that. Rest in peace Antonio.)<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">So to the film Saipan, which is released in Ireland on St Stephen\u2019s Day. The movie is fine as a movie, with an excellent central performance from \u00c9anna Hardwicke as Roy Keane. It\u2019s not too long, and it\u2019s probably reasonably entertaining to people who don\u2019t know anything about what happened at Saipan, and can therefore watch it without being driven mad by all the things the movie gets wrong.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The list of those is too long to cover here, but from my point of view the single most annoying thing was that the film takes the debunked story that Keane had told Mick McCarthy \u201cyou\u2019re not even Irish, you English c***\u201d and makes this Irish-English antagonism seem like the central fault line in the whole disaster. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">We get a few scenes where McCarthy is shown being a little insecure or defensive about his Irishness, including one where he tells the players \u201cyou\u2019re representing your country,\u201d then quickly correcting himself, \u201c- our country\u201d. We see Keane saying \u201cBig Jack was an English fella who liked to pat Irish lads on the head.\u201d We even see repeated scenes of Keane seeming unaccountably irritated by the fact that the boy who delivers his papers wears a Beckham England jersey. <\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" data-chromatic=\"ignore\" alt=\"Mick McCarthy and Roy Keane pass each other during training in Saipan on May 21st, 2002. Photograph: Andrew Paton\/Inpho\" class=\"c-image\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/KJTJAJ565PQFS2DE3QIQRJ6NRQ.jpg\"   width=\"800\" height=\"450\"\/>Mick McCarthy and Roy Keane pass each other during training in Saipan on May 21st, 2002. Photograph: Andrew Paton\/Inpho <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Keane said a lot of terrible things to McCarthy in that meeting, but \u201cyou\u2019re not even Irish\u201d was not one of them. Such a barb would have been mortally insulting not only to McCarthy but to half of the squad: 11 of the 23 were English-born. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Only two players went to see Keane afterwards to express sympathy or regret over what had happened: they were Gary Breen and David Connolly. Neither would have been in the mood to do so if he\u2019d just called them plastic Paddies. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The \u201cyou\u2019re not even Irish\u201d version of the story made instant headlines at the time; the denials it had happened that way by all the people who were there emerged gradually and never received the same prominence. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">On a recent episode of his podcast, McCarthy revealed that he had spoken to the Saipan producers before the film\u2019s release. When McCarthy expressed surprise that anyone would be interested in hearing more about Saipan, he was told \u201cin our business you can tell the same story every 10 years to a new audience\u201d. It\u2019s frustrating to think of that new audience assuming the fake story is \u2013 more or less \u2013 what actually happened. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">I flew to Japan on May 24th, 2002, by which time Keane was already flying back: my plane might have passed his somewhere over central Asia. I remember sitting in Heathrow airport that morning, reading a piece by Fintan O\u2019Toole, who framed the row as a clash between \u201cthe new Celtic Tiger Ireland that has taken off since the 1994 World Cup . . . driven by a ruthless work ethic\u201d and \u201cthe lingering legacy of a relatively poor society in which it made sense to be grateful for small mercies\u201d. <\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" data-chromatic=\"ignore\" alt=\"Roy Keane and Mick McCarthy during a practice game in Saipan on  May 23rd, 2002.  Photograph: Kieran Doherty\/Reuters\" class=\"c-image\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/4CKHGWICWCV24A43BIDG5QMXMU.jpg\"   width=\"800\" height=\"450\"\/>Roy Keane and Mick McCarthy during a practice game in Saipan on  May 23rd, 2002.  Photograph: Kieran Doherty\/Reuters <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cThe battle of Saipan is thus a classical tragedy: the inevitable clash of two inexorable forces, each of which has right on its side,\u201d O\u2019Toole concluded. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The movie version instead shows us the inevitable clash of a driven hero who just wants the team to work hard and do well, and his inept antagonist, who unashamedly presides over an absolute shambles, which he somehow fails to recognise is totally unacceptable. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Nobody comes out of this well. The training camp is portrayed as one long stag party bender. The other players are, essentially, useless pissheads. At one point we see Keane doing stretches while Niall Quinn sits next to him casually slugging a bottle of beer. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The simplification makes the conflict less interesting than it was. The row split those who thought Keane was right to call out the organisational problems, which were seen as part of the FAI\u2019s historic pattern of failure and bullshit, and those who felt it was simply unacceptable to behave and to treat others as he did, even if the pitch was bad and the training kit late. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">In the movie version, the level of nonsense Keane is confronted with would be intolerable to any reasonable person. There\u2019s no dilemma here. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Look, if you\u2019re going to make a movie about an event like Saipan, which some of us still remember, then you expect some of those people to complain. Incidentally, I see that a new TV adaptation of Amadeus has come out this week. I haven\u2019t seen it yet, but going by the ads I already instinctively feel that I\u2019m going to hate it. When I ask myself why, the answer is that I\u2019m just too attached to the Milo\u0161 Forman version to accept any heretical \u201creimaginings\u201d. Saipan never really stood a chance. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"I find it hard to pick my favourite anything, but I do have a favourite film: Amadeus. 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