{"id":324510,"date":"2026-03-02T05:37:07","date_gmt":"2026-03-02T05:37:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/324510\/"},"modified":"2026-03-02T05:37:07","modified_gmt":"2026-03-02T05:37:07","slug":"fear-factorys-dino-cazares-reaffirms-that-reunion-with-former-members-will-never-happen","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/324510\/","title":{"rendered":"Fear Factory’s Dino Cazares Reaffirms That Reunion with Former Members Will Never Happen"},"content":{"rendered":"

Sometimes, you gotta beat a dead horse I guess. At least, that\u2019s what fans are making Dino Cazares<\/a>, the founding guitarist of Fear Factory<\/a>, do. He\u2019s spoken on the relationship\u2014or, honestly, the lack thereof\u2014with his former bandmates but apparently, people still won\u2019t just give up on the idea of them coming back together. For what probably feels like the hundredth time for him, our darling Dino took to his Facebook to yesterday, February 28, to address the issue yet again.<\/p>\n

Dino basically said fuck all that noise\u2026:<\/p>\n

\u201cI don\u2019t hold any hatred toward any former members, but to be clear, I will not be working with them again, I\u2019m sure the feeling is mutual. What\u2019s done is done, and that chapter is permanently closed. I\u2019ve moved forward and remain focused on the present and the future. I sincerely hope they have done the same. Respectfully.<\/p>\n

\u201cThe only reason I continue addressing this is because fans keep asking. I\u2019ve already moved on and have said that many times. Unfortunately, some people get upset if I don\u2019t answer the question and others get upset when I give an honest answer they don\u2019t want to hear.\u201d\n<\/p>\n

There\u2019s a bit of history here and it\u2019s all about money, the great relationship ruiner. Back in. 2024, Dino went on the Life is Peachy podcast to explain what led up to the band\u2019s OG singer Burton C. Bell leaving the band back in 2020. As Dino tells it, the other Fear Factory members felt like they were owed much more than what they received.<\/p>\n

\u201c[After] I [came] back with Fear Factory, we released four records. Me and Burton got sued by [former Fear Factory members] Christian [Olde Wolbers, bass] and Raymond [Herrera, drums] for monies owed. We owed them money. I ended up beating my lawsuit against those guys, but Burton ended up losing his lawsuit against those guys and has to pay them a million dollars. So Burton decides to quit the band. And he said a lot of things in the press, like he only did Fear Factory out of necessity, he only did Fear Factory \u2019cause he needed money, he didn\u2019t believe a lot of the lyrics he was writing, and blah, blah, blah, blah. He said he felt restrained doing Fear Factory, he felt like he was pigeonholed doing Fear Factory. And that\u2019s fine. I ended up winning my lawsuit against the guys, against Raymond and Christian.<\/p>\n

\u201cOne of the biggest misconceptions is that people thought that I sued Burton, but that\u2019s not true. It was Raymond and Christian who sued us individually. We had separate lawsuits. They sued us separately so they can get separate money. So if they would have won my lawsuit, I would have had to give them a million dollars. I won my lawsuit against them. I didn\u2019t owe them anything. But, actually, Burton filed for bankruptcy, and when he filed for bankruptcy, he tried to get out of paying those guys. And, unfortunately, he lied in his bankruptcy. That\u2019s a federal offense. Raymond and Christian took him back to court, made him open up the bankruptcy. The bankruptcy was null and void. So Burton had to pay back those guys, and they took all of Burt\u2019s assets. Assets, meaning whatever you own, whether it\u2019s a house, a car, a trademark, copyright, business, so on and so on. They took all that away from him for lying in court.<\/p>\n

\u201cWhen you go through a bankruptcy, the bankruptcy court sells your assets to try to make money back, to pay back the people you owe money to, so, when I found out that Burton\u2019s assets were up for sale, my lawyer contacted the court of Pennsylvania and said, \u2018Hey, look, we\u2019re interested in buying this Fear Factory trademark,\u2019 Burton\u2019s half. At this point, I owned half and Burton owned half. Raymond and Christian did not own the name at all whatsoever. They were only owed money. That\u2019s it. But they didn\u2019t own the trademark. Even though they tried to take the trademark from us and try to find every possible way to do that. \u2018Cause that\u2019s what lawyers do, right? They were not successful. So, the bankruptcy court owned Burton\u2019s half of the trademark. They put it up for sale. It\u2019s like eBay. They auction it off. So I had to place a bid if I wanted that trademark. And that\u2019s what I did. I put a bid up. Now, Burton couldn\u2019t buy his own assets back because he already lied in court. It was a federal offense. So he couldn\u2019t buy his assets back. So he didn\u2019t even have the opportunity to do that legally. I figured, \u2018Hey, I\u2019m gonna try to buy this name.\u2019 And I wanted to bring Burton and say, \u2018Hey, look, I got the name. Let\u2019s just continue.\u2019 So I put a bid up for the trademark. They wanted a lot of money for it. And Raymond and Christian put a bid up for it as well. But eventually I ended up winning the bid, I ended up winning the auction, and I owned Burton\u2019s half of the name, which meant I owned full 100 percent of the trademark of Fear Factory. So I reached out to Burton and I said, \u2018Hey, just come back 50-50,\u2019 which I found out technically, even though I bought Burton\u2019s 50 percent of the trademark, I couldn\u2019t give it to him. I couldn\u2019t legally buy it and then give it to him because if I did, then that means I was colluding and buying a name and just giving it to him. It goes against what the court\u2019s orders were. So I couldn\u2019t even do that, but I could pay Burton 50 percent of whatever we earned as Fear Factory. Now there was a problem with that. The problem was Raymond and Christian froze his assets.<\/p>\n

\u201cIf Burton would have come back to Fear Factory, whatever he earns from Fear Factory, a percentage of that would have to go to Raymond and Christian to pay back the million of dollars, so Burton didn\u2019t wanna go out there on tour and [be] working his ass off and having to pay those guys a percentage of what he earns on tour. Basically, whatever money is earned from Burton Bell\u2019s name in Fear Factory, that goes to Raymond and Christian. So in other words, if the song \u2018Replica\u2019 earns money on Spotify, that money goes to Raymond and Christian\u2019s lawyers. It\u2019s kind of like child support. If you\u2019re a guy having to pay child support, but you happen to be that guy that doesn\u2019t pay his child support, the court can go after your money that you\u2019re earning from your job. They could take a percentage of that money and pay your kids. That\u2019s basically what was happening to Burt. Now, Burt can go get a regular job. Let\u2019s say he went got a job at [McDonald\u2019s]. He wouldn\u2019t have to give him a portion of that money, because that\u2019s not being earned by Fear Factory. I could be wrong. There might be some technicalities where I\u2019m a little wrong, but it\u2019s basically what happened. So, in reality, me playing the Fear Factory songs live goes to pay back Burton\u2019s debt to those guys. But Burton doesn\u2019t see that.\u201d<\/p>\n

\u201cThere\u2019s a whole other side to it that fans just don\u2019t know. And I get it. They\u2019re not in this industry. They\u2019re just a fan listening to the songs and they don\u2019t understand how all this works.\u201d\n<\/p>\n

After hearing this side of it all, it makes sense he doesn\u2019t want any sort of reunion to happen. Once mess gets truly messy, there\u2019s nothing fun about anymore. At the time Dino did this interview, he said this about the potential for it all to (not) happen and honestly, it seemed pretty to the point back then so I can understand why he might wonder why the hell people are still asking him about it now.<\/p>\n

\u201cListen, sure, it\u2019s easy for all four of us to get together, but it wouldn\u2019t be easy to do business with them, it wouldn\u2019t be easy to write songs with them and it wouldn\u2019t be easy because somebody would have to be in control of that ship and that would be me. Not anybody else. That\u2019s not gonna work. Look what happened to Jane\u2019s Addiction. They got back together. [Laughs] Burton pretty much said, \u2018Ah, fuck you, Dino. I\u2019m not coming back. Fuck that. I\u2019m over it.\u2019 So I\u2019m, like, \u2018Okay, I\u2019ll do what I normally do. Put a [new version of the] band together and fucking do it.\u2019 It\u2019s not like I haven\u2019t been there before. I still have the fire, the drive, the passion to do this. And I think that\u2019s owed to the Fear Factory fans. The Fear Factory fans wanna hear the Fear Factory songs like they are on the record. They wanna hear the songs. They grew up with those songs, they still listen to those songs, and then when we go out there and play, we\u2019re gonna give it the best that we can do. And it\u2019s pretty fucking good.\u201d\n<\/p>\n

At least Dino doesn\u2019t harbor any bad feelings. Carrying around negative weight really drags your life down, but at least he just wishes all the best for everyone. But, I will say I do love that lil dig at Jane\u2019s Addiction, just out here catching strays for no reason. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Sometimes, you gotta beat a dead horse I guess. At least, that\u2019s what fans are making Dino Cazares,…\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":324511,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[28],"tags":[150548,93,127377,61,60,278],"class_list":{"0":"post-324510","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-music","8":"tag-dino-cazares","9":"tag-entertainment","10":"tag-fear-factory","11":"tag-ie","12":"tag-ireland","13":"tag-music"},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/324510","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=324510"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/324510\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/324511"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=324510"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=324510"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=324510"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}