{"id":352436,"date":"2026-03-18T10:50:13","date_gmt":"2026-03-18T10:50:13","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/352436\/"},"modified":"2026-03-18T10:50:13","modified_gmt":"2026-03-18T10:50:13","slug":"the-liverpudlian-at-the-heart-of-the-irish-economy-the-irish-times","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/352436\/","title":{"rendered":"The Liverpudlian at the heart of the Irish economy \u2013 The Irish Times"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">John Kelly\u2019s grandfather was a cooper in the Guinness brewery before leaving for Liverpool in the early 1930s \u201cwhen the work got tight\u201d, though his great-grandfather never grew to accept that a new generation of Kellys would grow up \u201coverseas\u201d.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Once there, Kelly\u2019s grandfather began working in Cains Brewery on the Docks Road in Liverpool. His first child, also called John, born in 1931, started primary school in Sylvester Street in Everton.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cMy great-grandfather kept coming over and taking my father back to Ireland to work on the farm in Skerries, because he didn\u2019t want, as he put it, the eldest Kelly boy growing up overseas,\u201d says John Kelly, now the chief executive of Suir Engineering.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cHe\u2019d collect my father from school and take him a few hundred yards to the terminal and straight on to the ferry and over to Ireland before my grandfather even knew anything about it,\u201d Kelly tells The Irish Times.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">In the beginning, the Liverpool Kellys lived in Norris Green in the east of Liverpool, \u201ca real hard-working, working-class area in Liverpool, a very Catholic working-class area\u201d, he tells The Irish Times.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">His father became the first in the family to own their own home when he moved out to Maghull, \u201cfrom where on a clear day, we could see Aintree Racecourse if we stood on the hill\u201d.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Back then, Maghull was an emerging \u201cnew town\u201d, where the Catholics went to the Maricourt convent and school and nearly everyone else went to the Church of England school \u201cthat backed on to our house\u201d.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Throughout, the Liverpool Kellys returned to Ireland, \u201chome\u201d, in the words always of his father, who later served in the British Army, though his mother\u2019s Irish connections were a further generation back.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The blood links with Ireland have helped Kelly during a career that brought him to the Dublin-based Mercury Engineering in the early 2010s: \u201cBeing from Liverpool, I probably wasn\u2019t quite viewed the same as I would be if I was coming from elsewhere.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The view the Irish take of the British, he has found, depends on \u201chow far north they\u2019re from, and whether they\u2019re from an Irish stronghold such as Liverpool or Manchester, or somewhere with an affinity with Ireland\u201d.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Today, Kelly leads Suir Engineering, with 1,600 employees, which offers mechanical, electrical, instrumentation and high-voltage engineering services to companies not just in Ireland, but the United Kingdom, Scandinavia, Finland and Germany, too.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph\">Sometimes. he\u2019d recruit hurlers and train them to be electricians because they were good hurlers.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Headquartered in Waterford, Suir began life in Mooncoin, Co Kilkenny under its now deceased founder, Noel Doyle, who mixed a passion for business with an even-stronger passion for hurling.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cSometimes. he\u2019d recruit hurlers and train them to be electricians because they were good hurlers,\u201d says Kelly, with a smile. \u201cHe even had the canteen roaring away in the afternoon so they could go straight to training from work.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Today, Suir Engineering is owned by private equity group, Duke Street, which bought it from EDF Energy in 2023 \u2013 following a tumultuous decade when Suir \u2013 though profitable \u2013 had to be extracted from the collapse of its then owner, Royal Imtech.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Usually, Duke Street keeps companies for three to five years before selling them, but \u201cthey do have businesses within the portfolio that they\u2019ve held for 10, 11, 12 years and they do like the business.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cI really like working with private equity, because as long as you do what you say you\u2019re going to do, you\u2019re fine. It\u2019s all about performance. If you\u2019re performing then, you\u2019ve no problems at all with them,\u201d Kelly tells The Irish Times.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Today, Suir has a few key pillars to its business, he says \u2013 data centres, energy, including electricity grids and renewable, life sciences and pharmaceuticals, and food and beverage manufacturing.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cWe\u2019ve stopped trying to chase everything and focus on what we are best at doing,\u201d he goes, adding that Suir has worked with every one of the 10 biggest pharmaceutical firms based in Ireland.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"\" class=\"c-image audio_image\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/1754647931518-c07d65db-55b5-463e-ae51-976300c5837e.jpeg\"\/>\u2018Over a billion eyeballs will be on the parade\u2019: St Patrick\u2019s festival CEO Richard Tierney<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cWe do upgrades works to grids. We build big substations. We connect to the grids for large users such as data centres and pharmaceutical plants. We connect developers to the grid to build power stations and solar farms and wind farms.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cThat gives the opportunity to work overseas with them because they like to work with people who they know and trust to deliver, especially when they\u2019re going into new territory, as well,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Three years ago when Kelly took over from Michael Kennedy as chief executive, 70 per cent of Suir\u2019s work was in Ireland, mostly for a Grade A list of multinationals and major Irish-owned firms.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Today, the split is 50\/50, with growth coming in the United Kingdom, Germany, Denmark, Sweden: \u201cNow, we\u2019re also in Austria as well and we\u2019re likely to work in Finland,\u201d he says.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The shift from 70\/30 to 50\/50 figures holds lessons. Major pharmaceutical investments in Ireland are not currently happening, and unlikely to do so for the next few years, partly because of the presence of Donald Trump in the White House.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cThey don\u2019t want to be seen to be putting two billion into Ireland to build a new plant in Grange Castle, or wherever, they don\u2019t want to be invested in large capital projects with such a political backdrop.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cSo, the investment is smaller scale \u2013 to refurbish plants and to eke out the life of the plant and to get more out of it. They\u2019re sweating assets at the moment, rather than big capex investments,\u201d he goes on.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Consequently, Suir has now moved some of its highly-skilled life sciences people abroad for the first time: \u201cWe\u2019re working in Germany with one of our customers that we would normally work with back here, but not on a major scale.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">However, there are others who would be willing to spend in Ireland, such as data centres and renewable developers, but are not because of electricity grid shortages \u2013 ones that are being worked on, but which will take up to five years to solve.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph\">But there\u2019s no avoiding that the next three years are going to be fairly barren for data centres in Ireland. There\u2019ll be a few built, but that\u2019s it.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cFor the next three years to five years, at least three years, there\u2019s definitely more investment overseas than in Ireland because of the restrictions with power,\u201d Kelly declares.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Recent changes should spur some construction of data centres with energy located on site, but \u201cthe grid upgrade works has got to move an awful long way, I think, before we\u2019ll see large-scale development again like we\u2019ve seen elsewhere\u201d.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Everything about data centres spurs claim and counterclaim, especially numbers that show that a quarter of the current electricity supply is consumed by the ones already in existence, and that the figure will go up to 30 per cent.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">For Kelly, such numbers illustrate past failures and past successes. Firstly, Ireland was at the forefront of a technological wave that came into the country. Secondly, the gird never grew in size as it should have done.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cIt\u2019s a worry, but I\u2019m hopeful that that can be corrected eventually. But there\u2019s no avoiding that the next three years are going to be fairly barren for data centres in Ireland. There\u2019ll be a few built, but that\u2019s it,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/esb\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/esb\/\">ESB <\/a>is \u201cdoing a fantastic job this year\u201d, he says, with significant advances being made because of \u201cthe large transmission lines, big substations, big reinforcement and stabilisation of the grid works\u201d under way.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Such words are not empty rhetoric, said the Suir Engineering chief executive: \u201cIt\u2019s the case. That\u2019s all in procurement that we\u2019re actually tendering for right now,\u201d he tells The Irish Times.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">For now, however, the Irish companies that built data centres in Ireland in years past are in demand elsewhere: \u201cThey really are the envy of Europe. Developers love to have the big Irish engineering businesses work for them.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cThey\u2019ve got a proven track record. They were building them in Ireland and building so many of them long before the rest of Europe woke up to the demand, or created the space for them,\u201d he goes on.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Given his role, Kelly must think about the company\u2019s fortunes a decade from now, not just tomorrow, and he acknowledges fully that the climate challenge will impact on every element of Suir\u2019s business.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Much has been done, he argues, to make business more energy-efficient, but root-and-branch reforms will be required in years ahead: \u201cYou\u2019ve got to actually show what more you can do.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" data-chromatic=\"ignore\" alt=\"circa 1930:  Scene of the dockside in Liverpool with vessels alongside.  (Photo by Hulton Archive\/Getty Images)\" class=\"c-image\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/03\/I57KE4YVMJEGLBXLT5Y3OUO6HY.jpg\"   width=\"800\" height=\"564\"\/>circa 1930:  Scene of the dockside in Liverpool with vessels alongside.  (Photo by Hulton Archive\/Getty Images) <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cInstead of trying to transport hundreds of people to places miles away to carry out work, how many hours can be done in a factory closer to home in a more productive, efficient, clean manner and then ship a product.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cCan the site be turned into an assembly site rather than a construction site? We want to do a thing called stick building, with modules and products that bolt together. Just assemble and commission. Then it\u2019s up and running.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cIf you don\u2019t need to have 4,000 men working on the site and you can get by with 500 men because it\u2019s an assembly site, then that\u2019s got to be better for the local area that you land in,\u201d he continues.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Each of the pillars to Suir\u2019s business \u2013 energy, pharma, data and food and beverage production \u2013 will be core to its future: \u201cEach of them are resilient. I think they\u2019ll all survive going forward for different reasons.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Data centres are disliked by many, but they are central to the AI revolution, but to remote working, too: \u201cIf you want all the efficiencies that come from the next industrial revolution that is AI, then you need data centres.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cEnergy, especially renewables, are central, too. Life sciences? We\u2019re all living longer. We all have and will have more conditions that need treatment. That\u2019s why we chose them. Not just because we are good at them, but each have a long-term future.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Turning to the workers of the future, Kelly prefers the glass half-full, rather than half-empty analogy about those who are taking up, and will take up apprenticeships and college degrees.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Currently, Suir has 350 apprentices on its books: \u201cThey\u2019re more aware of choices than people at my age were back in the 80s and 90s. They\u2019ve made a conscious choice to be with you. But they want to be with businesses that are successful.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cOne that are trying to shape the future, that have a plan, that want to invest in modern technology. They don\u2019t want to be in an archaic, old, dying industry like an old dinosaur,\u201d he goes on.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Kelly speaks with personal interest, since his youngest daughter is an apprentice electrician with Suir. Like any father, the issue of whether a job has a future for his children figures highly.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cI still can\u2019t see AI coming along and pulling cables and fitting conduits in people\u2019s factories and in data centres just yet,\u201d says Kelly, who became an apprentice after leaving school with GCSEs, before later earning a quantity surveying degree.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The company has invested heavily in an apprentice training centre in Citywest in Dublin, and plans a second one, but that was done to deal with problems it encountered dealing with apprentices.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph\">I wouldn\u2019t say it\u2019s a slower way of life here, but people are more thoughtful, it\u2019s more about people here. People will tell you their story in a pub. That wouldn\u2019t happen in Britain.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Following an examination, Suir found that it lost 30 per cent of all of the apprentices it took in \u2013 and the vast majority of those were falling away in the first year: \u201cSo they needed more support.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Equally, it found that 60 per cent of the hand injuries were being suffered by apprentices, mostly first-year ones, even though they make less than a third of the workforce.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">He does not accept that pay rates are keeping people away from apprenticeships: \u201cThey\u2019re getting 50 per cent in the first year, I think it is, and then 66 per cent and then 75 per cent and then 100 per cent.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Looking back to Liverpool, he says college graduates are leaving laden with debt, while apprentices would have \u201cmoney in the bank, a car, a few nice holidays, all their studies paid for\u201d, and a career for the years ahead.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Now three years living in Dublin, Kelly, though he has maintained a home in the UK, is in Ireland for the long term: \u201cI\u2019m not here just for the job, I always felt like I wanted to come back after having three years with Mercury.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cThat was a great time. Fabulous business, great people in it. Really enjoyed the environment, a good family-friendly environment as well. A real good atmosphere. I like team sports as well, and everyone here is involved to some degree, or other. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cPeople actually talk to each other, which I like. It easy to live in a detached way in the UK. It\u2019s easy to be detached from your community, from the people around you, even just the general conversation and chit-chat around you.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cPeople there are so busy. I wouldn\u2019t say it\u2019s a slower way of life here, but people are more thoughtful, it\u2019s more about people here. People will tell you their story in a pub. 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