{"id":441619,"date":"2026-05-10T11:03:16","date_gmt":"2026-05-10T11:03:16","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/441619\/"},"modified":"2026-05-10T11:03:16","modified_gmt":"2026-05-10T11:03:16","slug":"so-the-odyssey-trailer-has-upset-you-shut-up-and-stop-whinging-the-irish-times","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/441619\/","title":{"rendered":"So the Odyssey trailer has upset you. Shut up and stop whinging \u2013 The Irish Times"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Here\u2019s something you can bet your house on. The whole world is going to be utterly insufferable about <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/christopher.nolan\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/christopher.nolan\/\">Christopher Nolan<\/a>\u2019s upcoming The Odyssey.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Forget that. No bookie will offer you odds. The film doesn\u2019t open for another two months, and pedants are already getting their underwear in knots. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The trailer that emerged this week drew criticism for its contemporary vernacular, its anachronistic costuming and its insufficiently Hellenic cast. Would Telemachus, here played by <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/tom-holland\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/tom-holland\/\">Tom Holland<\/a>, really have referred to Odysseus as his \u201cdad\u201d? Well, no. He\u2019d have used a word in ancient Greek that I can\u2019t be bothered to look up. So shut up and stop whinging.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The use of American accents had already been much chewed over when a teaser trailer revealed <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/matt-damon\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/matt-damon\/\">Matt Damon<\/a> speaking in mild Bostonese. It may astonish you to learn there are still people out there, a surprising number of them American, who believe the default accent for actors in such situations should be English \u201creceived pronunciation\u201d. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Obviously, it would be no more logical for Agamemnon to speak in a Home Counties accent than in one from Scotland, Australia, Barcelona or, in this case, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/benny-safdie\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/benny-safdie\/\">Benny Safdie<\/a>\u2019s native Queens. But a perception remains that RP is a sort of base neutral. It is not an accent at all. Right? <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Baloney. This attitude is residue of a forelock-tugging inferiority complex that has survived long after \u201cregional voices\u201d bossed the English stage in the 1960s.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">It was not hard to damp down the absurd suggestion that Safdie or Damon should adopt a posh English accent for The Odyssey. The new trailer has, however, announced a more peculiar variation. A key exchange between Holland\u2019s Telemachus and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/robert-pattinson\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/robert-pattinson\/\">Robert Pattinson<\/a> as Antinous reveals both Londoners speaking in unmistakable North American timbres. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cEverybody Using American Accents Is Definitely a Choice,\u201d The Hollywood Reporter <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hollywoodreporter.com\/movies\/movie-news\/the-odyssey-nolan-american-accents-trailer-1236586611\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.hollywoodreporter.com\/movies\/movie-news\/the-odyssey-nolan-american-accents-trailer-1236586611\/\">blared<\/a>. It\u2019s  all they\u2019re talking about now on Sunset Boulevard.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The Reporter is right to call it a choice. Nobody much noticed when <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/ridley-scott\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/ridley-scott\/\">Ridley Scott<\/a> had <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/joaquin-phoenix\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/joaquin-phoenix\/\">Joaquin Phoenix<\/a> \u2013 and, to an extent, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/russell-crowe\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/russell-crowe\/\">Russell Crowe<\/a> \u2013 speak in strangled Hertfordshire for Gladiator. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The convention that everyone in the ancient world had been to Rada was then still strongly in place. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/charlton-heston\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/charlton-heston\/\">Charlton Heston<\/a> does not, to be fair, do much to his own accent in Ben Hur, but virtually everyone else in that epic sounds British: the English Jack Hawkins, the Welsh Hugh Griffith, Belfast\u2019s Stephen Boyd.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">When Hollywood wasn\u2019t encouraging actors in ancient epics to go RP, it was often asking them to try on a weird inside-out accent for films set somewhere foreign. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">You got a lot of this with German characters in war films. It made sense for the commandant in The Great Escape to speak in broken English when haranguing Richard Attenborough, but why is <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/robert-duvall\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/robert-duvall\/\">Robert Duvall<\/a>, as Oberst Max Radl in The Eagle Has Landed, speaking in a German accent when addressing characters in his own tongue (translated for us, obviously). <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">You got a nice acknowledgment of the dilemma at the start of The Hunt for Red October when <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/sean-connery\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/sean-connery\/\">Sean Connery<\/a>, as a rugged Soviet submarine captain, begins by speaking in Russian, only for the voice to magically transform into the actor\u2019s familiar Edinburgh rumble. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Yet as late as Ridley Scott\u2019s House of Gucci, from 2021, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/adam-driver\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/adam-driver\/\">Adam Driver<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/lady-gaga\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/lady-gaga\/\">Lady Gaga<\/a> were still adopting Super Mario Brothers accents when at home in Milan. \u201cTheesa film notta gonna ween any Oscars,\u201d Gaga didn\u2019t exactly say.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph b-it-article-body__interstitial-link\">[\u00a0<a aria-label=\"Open related story\" class=\"c-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/culture\/film\/2026\/03\/17\/oscars-2027-which-films-will-be-up-for-best-picture-donald-clarke-predicts-the-nominees\/\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Oscars 2027: Which films will be up for best picture? Donald Clarke predicts the nomineesOpens in new window<\/a>\u00a0]<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">In recent years we have seen a move away from this requirement to nod at the artificiality. In <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/armando-iannucci\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/armando-iannucci\/\">Armando Iannucci<\/a>\u2019s Death of Stalin, the actors spoke largely in their own accents.<a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/steve-buscemi\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/steve-buscemi\/\"> Steve Buscemi<\/a>\u2019s Nikita Khrushchev was American. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/jason-isaacs\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/jason-isaacs\/\">Jason Isaacs<\/a>\u2019s Field Marshal Zhukov was unforgettably bluff and Yorkshire.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The folk behind the devastating series Chernobyl, also set in the USSR, took a similar approach. \u201cAccents in film is tremendously stupid,\u201d its director, Johan Renck, said. \u201cAre we supposed to feel they are more Russian because they are speaking bad English?\u201d <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">No such pressure was put on the likes of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/jessie-buckley\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/jessie-buckley\/\">Jessie Buckley<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/barry-keoghan\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/barry-keoghan\/\">Barry Keoghan<\/a> and Michael McElhatton in that production. \u201cWe have people who sound like they\u2019re Danish and Swedish and all varying kinds of British and Irish,\u201d Craig Mazin,  writer and creator of the series, added. \u201cIt is multicultural, as the Soviet Union was.\u201d <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">And there this conversation should have ended.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">It remains to be seen what Nolan is up to with The Odyssey. Maybe <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/charlize-theron\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/charlize-theron\/\">Charlize Theron<\/a> as Calypso will give it a full South African bellow. Or is Nolan, a man of British and American heritage, exacting revenge for the slights cinema has inflicted on his New World predecessors: all those Broadway greats required to ape clipped English to play Julius Caesar or Timon of Athens? <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Nolan is in charge now, and the ancient Greeks will be leaving the \u201ch\u201d silent in \u201cherb\u201d. Probably.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The Odyssey is in cinemas from Friday, July 17th <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Here\u2019s something you can bet your house on. 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