{"id":446889,"date":"2026-05-13T15:35:12","date_gmt":"2026-05-13T15:35:12","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/446889\/"},"modified":"2026-05-13T15:35:12","modified_gmt":"2026-05-13T15:35:12","slug":"my-friends-are-really-generous-with-their-home-and-money-but-they-never-let-me-pay-them-back","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/446889\/","title":{"rendered":"My friends are really generous with their home and money. But they never let me pay them back."},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"slate-paragraph slate-graf\" data-word-count=\"19\" data-uri=\"slate.com\/_components\/slate-paragraph\/instances\/cmp41kksn004ok0mc29bj12j6@published\">Pay Dirt is Slate\u2019s money advice column. Have a question? <a href=\"https:\/\/forms.gle\/icQft75iXrVCaSkaA\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Send it to Kristin and Ilyce here<\/a>. (It\u2019s anonymous!)<\/p>\n<p class=\"slate-paragraph slate-graf\" data-word-count=\"3\" data-uri=\"slate.com\/_components\/slate-paragraph\/instances\/cmp41kksn004pk0mc14yu44g3@published\">Dear Pay Dirt,<\/p>\n<p class=\"slate-paragraph slate-graf\" data-word-count=\"136\" data-uri=\"slate.com\/_components\/slate-paragraph\/instances\/cmp41kksn004qk0mc3mmt4h76@published\">I need advice on how to handle money with my friend group. There are four of us who hang regularly, two are a couple who recently bought a house (we\u2019re all in our early 20s, for context). Because they have the house, they\u2019re the default hosts, and because they host, they often end up paying for things like food and covering things like entry tickets for logistical convenience. Except then they turn around and say not to worry about it when I offer to pay them back for those things, which makes me uncomfortable. There are a few reasons for this, but the main one is the aforementioned house. They told me how much their mortgage is, and I know roughly how much the pair make. The (admittedly back of the napkin) math doesn\u2019t totally math.<\/p>\n<p class=\"slate-paragraph slate-graf\" data-word-count=\"141\" data-uri=\"slate.com\/_components\/slate-paragraph\/instances\/cmp423ho5000a3b7cc6t7z8v3@published\">I don\u2019t think they know how much I make, nor how lucky I\u2019ve gotten with being able to live comfortably and save on that income. It\u2019s on paper a bit less than their combined income, but I don\u2019t have a mortgage! So, whenever we\u2019re out I try to make sure I pay them back, and have to hold myself back from giving them extra to help with the mortgage. I\u2019ve never broached the latter idea because I have no idea how they\u2019ll take it. I can tell the way I handle money at our hangouts is starting to grate on them (I feel like a collections agent for myself occasionally), but I don\u2019t know what else to do. It feels invasive to ask about their finances, but also from the outside looking in it feels like they\u2019re needlessly throwing it away!<\/p>\n<p class=\"slate-paragraph slate-graf\" data-word-count=\"54\" data-uri=\"slate.com\/_components\/slate-paragraph\/instances\/cmp423hqq000b3b7css1mfflp@published\">Is there a way for me to broach the conversation of them letting me pay for things? Do I start pulling the grandma trick of hiding cash in their stuff when I visit? I just want to make sure the people I care about are OK and not stretching themselves too thin for me.<\/p>\n<p class=\"slate-paragraph slate-graf\" data-word-count=\"4\" data-uri=\"slate.com\/_components\/slate-paragraph\/instances\/cmp423hsn000c3b7cghjl70r3@published\">\u2014Let Me Help, Please<\/p>\n<p class=\"slate-paragraph slate-graf\" data-word-count=\"4\" data-uri=\"slate.com\/_components\/slate-paragraph\/instances\/cmp423hun000d3b7ca0rmojnb@published\">Dear Let Me Help,<\/p>\n<p class=\"slate-paragraph slate-graf\" data-word-count=\"55\" data-uri=\"slate.com\/_components\/slate-paragraph\/instances\/cmp423hwn000e3b7cl3yh7b8m@published\">No need to pull the grandma trick just yet. (Although, your grandma sounds great\u00a0 \u2014 can I borrow her?) You mentioned that your friend seems annoyed with your money handlings, so a conversation is your best bet here. The key is to frame it around fairness and your own discomfort rather than their financial situation.<\/p>\n<p class=\"slate-paragraph slate-graf\" data-word-count=\"40\" data-uri=\"slate.com\/_components\/slate-paragraph\/instances\/cmp423hya000f3b7c6muq84sx@published\">A simple way to start the conversation: \u201cCan we talk about how we\u2019re all splitting things? I don\u2019t feel comfortable not paying my fair share. I\u2019d be really happy if we could start splitting things more evenly. Is that possible?\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"slate-paragraph slate-graf\" data-word-count=\"41\" data-uri=\"slate.com\/_components\/slate-paragraph\/instances\/cmp423i01000g3b7c4nx5cey2@published\">If they brush things off, you can make some suggestions, like rotating who picks up the tab at dinner or hosts the next hangout. Or, you could agree to bring the dessert or the side dishes. Or even help with cleanup.<\/p>\n<p class=\"slate-paragraph slate-graf\" data-word-count=\"56\" data-uri=\"slate.com\/_components\/slate-paragraph\/instances\/cmp423i28000h3b7c4hlivdwg@published\">It\u2019s totally reasonable that you want to pay your fair share and it\u2019s sweet that you\u2019re looking out for your friends. But they\u2019re also adults and, for all you know, they might have other sources of income you\u2019re not aware of. They might have gotten a big windfall and enjoy spending it on their friends\u2014who knows?<\/p>\n<p class=\"slate-paragraph slate-graf\" data-word-count=\"37\" data-uri=\"slate.com\/_components\/slate-paragraph\/instances\/cmp423i41000i3b7cadzf5e80@published\">Either way, hiding money could turn a slightly uncomfortable situation into a really awkward one, so don\u2019t be afraid to be direct and bring up the topic next time they seem annoyed by the quid pro quo.<\/p>\n<p class=\"prudie-google-form__disclaimer\">\n      Please keep questions short (&lt;150 words), and don\u2018t submit the same question to multiple columns. We are unable to edit or remove questions after publication. Use pseudonyms to maintain anonymity. Your submission may be used in other Slate advice columns and may be edited for publication.\n    <\/p>\n<p class=\"slate-notification--success js-success-message\" hidden=\"\">Thanks! Your question has been submitted.<\/p>\n<p class=\"slate-paragraph slate-graf\" data-word-count=\"3\" data-uri=\"slate.com\/_components\/slate-paragraph\/instances\/cmp41kksn004uk0mc6amrnsbn@published\">Dear Pay Dirt,<\/p>\n<p class=\"slate-paragraph slate-graf\" data-word-count=\"101\" data-uri=\"slate.com\/_components\/slate-paragraph\/instances\/cmp41kksn004vk0mcajknjcq4@published\">I have $140,000 of student loan debt for a bachelor\u2019s in a science field. The debt is due to a combination of complete lack of parental support (both financially and in terms of decision-making support) and being in a relationship through college and after that was abusive, including significant financial abuse. The debt is pretty evenly split between federal and private loans. I have been making payments on the private ones, but the balance never really goes down (and I have refinanced to get an okay rate, about 5 percent). The federal loans have been ballooning with interest while on forbearance.<\/p>\n<p class=\"slate-paragraph slate-graf\" data-word-count=\"97\" data-uri=\"slate.com\/_components\/slate-paragraph\/instances\/cmp426tek000u3b7cjwwr8ejy@published\">I have also developed an autoimmune condition that limits my ability to work but doesn\u2019t qualify me as disabled\u2014my field normally involves heavy outdoor labor that I am simply not capable of now. I am eligible for public service loan forgiveness, but I can\u2019t afford the payments for that plan. I make $62,000 gross in a medium-cost-of-living city. I have looked actively for higher paying jobs but have found nothing better (my field has been severely devalued in recent years). Also, at this point, I truly cannot afford to lose the fantastic healthcare my current job provides.<\/p>\n<p class=\"slate-paragraph slate-graf\" data-word-count=\"137\" data-uri=\"slate.com\/_components\/slate-paragraph\/instances\/cmp426tel000v3b7cfv2gdx5s@published\">Other than this debt, my finances are in great shape. I have no other debt apart from a 3 percent mortgage on a cheap house (rentals for a one-bedroom apartment here go for about double what my mortgage, insurance, and taxes cost me monthly). I also have a small amount on a credit card for some work on the house that I can pay off interest-free by the end of the year. I have no car loan, don\u2019t travel, don\u2019t get fancy coffee or eat out much, rarely buy new clothes, have no expensive hobbies, etc. I\u2019m naturally frugal and expenses are already cut to the bone. I maintain the house alone which gets more expensive every day, but my abusive ex is on the mortgage and the title, although they finally stopped living here last year.<\/p>\n<p class=\"slate-paragraph slate-graf\" data-word-count=\"70\" data-uri=\"slate.com\/_components\/slate-paragraph\/instances\/cmp426tem000w3b7cpl5os7tf@published\">Is there any way out of this? I know that student debt is typically non-dischargeable through bankruptcy, but I have heard of things like adversary proceedings. I have thought of paying all my living expenses through credit so I can try to pay the loans (I\u2019ll be forced into this at some point regardless of whether I want to do that or not, because I simply won\u2019t have enough money).<\/p>\n<p class=\"slate-paragraph slate-graf\" data-word-count=\"5\" data-uri=\"slate.com\/_components\/slate-paragraph\/instances\/cmp426tem000x3b7co4v6uykd@published\">\u2014Other Than Win the Lottery<\/p>\n<p class=\"slate-paragraph slate-graf\" data-word-count=\"4\" data-uri=\"slate.com\/_components\/slate-paragraph\/instances\/cmp426tem000y3b7cogage39f@published\">Dear Win the Lottery,<\/p>\n<p class=\"slate-paragraph slate-graf\" data-word-count=\"52\" data-uri=\"slate.com\/_components\/slate-paragraph\/instances\/cmp426tem000z3b7cj6ivke19@published\">You\u2019ve had a lot to deal with, and the fact that you\u2019ve kept your financial life fairly stable through all of it is a testament to having solid money habits. There\u2019s probably no magic fix here, otherwise we\u2019d all be using it. The good news is, there are ways to move forward.<\/p>\n<p class=\"slate-paragraph slate-graf\" data-word-count=\"84\" data-uri=\"slate.com\/_components\/slate-paragraph\/instances\/cmp426ten00103b7cufi55e1l@published\">You\u2019re right that, historically, student loans have typically been non-dischargeable in bankruptcy (or at least, really hard to get discharged), but the process has <a href=\"https:\/\/www.wawb.uscourts.gov\/content\/navigating-new-student-loan-discharge-process-overview-and-additional-resources\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">changed in the past few years<\/a>. Yes, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.donaldbellaw.com\/blog\/what-winning-a-student-loan-discharge-case-actually-looks-like\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">adversary proceedings do exist<\/a>, and medical limitations might help you qualify. It\u2019s a difficult but not impossible process, and you can schedule a consultation with a bankruptcy attorney to see if you might be a good candidate. Depending on your medical issues, you might also look into <a href=\"https:\/\/studentaid.gov\/manage-loans\/forgiveness-cancellation\/disability-discharge\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Total and Permanent Disability (TPD)<\/a> discharge.<\/p>\n<p>          <a href=\"https:\/\/slate.com\/advice\/2026\/05\/wedding-plus-one-advice-new-relationship.html\" class=\"in-article-recirc__link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\"><\/p>\n<p>            I Was Happy to Give My Best Friend a Plus-One to My Wedding. But I Might Have to Draw the Line at This Latest Addition to Their Family.<br \/>\n          <\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"slate-paragraph slate-graf\" data-word-count=\"149\" data-uri=\"slate.com\/_components\/slate-paragraph\/instances\/cmp426ten00113b7ce1p8ilz6@published\">It might also be worth talking to a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nfcc.org\/?nab=0\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">non-profit credit counselor<\/a> who can look at your full situation and help you come up with a plan to pay off your debts over time. That\u2019s a much safer route than putting your living expenses on credit, which will only <a href=\"https:\/\/lifehacker.com\/common-debt-traps-that-keep-you-living-paycheck-to-pa-1637915715?test_uuid=zXnWOLjQQwkYjMVwrvo5w&amp;test_variant=B\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">get you further into a debt trap<\/a>. Chances are, they\u2019ll help you come up with some version of a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.experian.com\/blogs\/ask-experian\/how-does-debt-snowball-work\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">debt snowball <\/a>or <a href=\"https:\/\/www.experian.com\/blogs\/ask-experian\/what-is-the-avalanche-method\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">debt avalanche<\/a> where you prioritize paying off one debt while making minimum payments on the others. Right now, your priority might be paying off that credit card. Because even if you have until the end of the year until interest accrues, I\u2019m guessing that interest rate is going to be through the roof if you don\u2019t pay it off in time\u2014it\u2019s kind of what the credit card companies are banking on, and it could make your situation considerably worse.<\/p>\n<p class=\"slate-paragraph slate-graf\" data-word-count=\"61\" data-uri=\"slate.com\/_components\/slate-paragraph\/instances\/cmp426ten00123b7ckgq8wx4j@published\">Sometimes looking for a quick fix can get you into more trouble. Avoid anything that risks you getting further into debt. There\u2019s no magic bullet here, but there are options to keep your head above water. Getting out of debt takes time, but a solid, steady plan that you can actually stick with will ensure it doesn\u2019t take longer than necessary.<\/p>\n<p class=\"slate-paragraph slate-graf\" data-word-count=\"1\" data-uri=\"slate.com\/_components\/slate-paragraph\/instances\/cmp41kksn004wk0mc8f4i9nbh@published\">\u2014Kristin<\/p>\n<p>More Money Advice From Slate<\/p>\n<p class=\"slate-paragraph slate-graf\" data-word-count=\"116\" data-uri=\"slate.com\/_components\/slate-paragraph\/instances\/cmp41kksn004yk0mc07s19q6h@published\">Last summer, my wife\u2019s mother died, leaving her a large house in a small town in Germany, which is where my wife grew up. She has no siblings, and her father died when she was a child. We met in Germany (I am American) and live in the United States, where we both have middle-class jobs. My wife now feels torn about what to do with her German property, because of a feeling of obligation to her mother\u2019s memory. She had a tense relationship with her mother, who was often critical of her choices. Now we are discussing: should we fix up the house and rent it out? Someday retire over there? <a href=\"https:\/\/slate.com\/advice\/2024\/09\/inherited-house-rent-sell-personal-finance.html\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Both propositions scare me.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>      Get the latest from Prudie and our columnists in your inbox each weekday, plus special bonus letters on Saturdays.\n    <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Pay Dirt is Slate\u2019s money advice column. Have a question? Send it to Kristin and Ilyce here. 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