{"id":558439,"date":"2026-07-20T04:23:12","date_gmt":"2026-07-20T04:23:12","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/558439\/"},"modified":"2026-07-20T04:23:12","modified_gmt":"2026-07-20T04:23:12","slug":"alibaba-previews-qwen3-8-claims-its-second-only-to-claude-fable-5","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/558439\/","title":{"rendered":"Alibaba previews Qwen3.8, claims it&#8217;s second only to Claude Fable 5"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Alibaba Group Holding Ltd. today previewed the most powerful artificial intelligence model in its Qwen family, Qwen3.8, and claimed the system trails only Anthropic PBC\u2019s Claude Fable 5 among the world\u2019s frontier models.<\/p>\n<p>The company revealed the model, offered as a preview build called Qwen3.8-Max-Preview, today at the World Artificial Intelligence Conference in Shanghai. It accommodates 2.4 trillion parameters, making it the first Qwen model above 1 trillion parameters to process images, video and documents alongside text.<\/p>\n<p>Alibaba\u2019s Qwen team said in a post <a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/Alibaba_Qwen\/status\/2078759124914098291\" rel=\"nofollow\">on X<\/a> that the model ranks \u201csecond only to Fable 5,\u201d a reference to Anthropic\u2019s recent release. It offered no benchmark scores to support the claim and no independent evaluation has verified the ranking.<\/p>\n<p>That absence stands out. Alibaba\u2019s previous flagship, Qwen3.7-Max, shipped in May with a full set of published results, including a score of 56.6 on the <a href=\"https:\/\/artificialanalysis.ai\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index<\/a>. The Qwen3.8 preview arrived with no model card, no activated-parameter count and no benchmark data at all.<\/p>\n<p>Alibaba published no task-level comparison with Qwen3.7-Max and described the new model only as \u201ccontinuously evolving.\u201d Open weights are promised \u201csoon,\u201d though the company has not set a date or published license terms.<\/p>\n<p>The preview is available now through Alibaba\u2019s Token Plan subscription and its Qoder and QoderWork developer platforms, priced at 10% of the standard rate during the trial period.<\/p>\n<p>The timing places Qwen3.8 directly against a domestic rival. Chinese AI startup Beijing Moonshot AI Technology Co. Ltd. released Kimi K3, a 2.8 trillion-parameter model, <a href=\"https:\/\/siliconangle.com\/2026\/07\/16\/chinas-moonshot-throws-gauntlet-kimi-k3-worlds-largest-open-weights-model\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">three days earlier<\/a>. Both launches push Chinese developers into the multi-trillion-parameter tier, a scale until recently associated mainly with the largest U.S. labs<\/p>\n<p>Alibaba has made Qwen central to its effort to position itself as China\u2019s default AI supplier. Over the past year the company has released a steady run of open-weight models while building out cloud infrastructure and custom chips to run them. The open-weight approach has helped Qwen assemble one of the largest developer followings of any Chinese model family, a base it now hopes to carry into the trillion-parameter class.<\/p>\n<p>For enterprise buyers weighing the announcement, the comparison with Fable 5 is Alibaba\u2019s alone. No independent leaderboard has scored Qwen3.8 yet, and the last Qwen model that was ranked, Qwen3.7-Max, sits well down LMArena\u2019s list, where Fable 5 is No. 1. 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