{"id":645334,"date":"2026-10-05T10:28:13","date_gmt":"2026-10-05T10:28:13","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/645334\/"},"modified":"2026-10-05T10:28:13","modified_gmt":"2026-10-05T10:28:13","slug":"munster-have-been-digging-this-hole-for-years-as-they-slide-into-tortured-mediocrity-the-irish-times","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/645334\/","title":{"rendered":"Munster have been digging this hole for years as they slide into tortured mediocrity \u2013 The Irish Times"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">For everybody with feelings for <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/munster-rugby\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/munster-rugby\/\">Munster<\/a>, there is an image of the club they refuse to give up. It is romantic and rooted in the past and, somehow, it has survived Munster\u2019s descent into tortured mediocrity. It is not blind adoration, but it is heartfelt.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">In his new autobiography and in interviews promoting the book, Peter O\u2019Mahony has not spared the Munster leadership for what he perceives to be years of mismanagement. He was wounded by Munster\u2019s disrespectful vacillating over his final contract extension, and it troubled him that in 10 years as captain he lifted just one trophy. But he never renounced his original feelings for the jersey.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cThere\u2019s always something different, though [about Munster],\u201d he said in conversation a couple of weeks ago. \u201cWhatever happens it will be a special club. We travel anywhere in Europe, and you\u2019ll get bigger crowds because we\u2019re there. It\u2019s a really critical time now that Munster hold on to that and realise how important it is.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">But is that not living in the past, I asked him?<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cYeah, well,\u201d he said, \u201cyou have to build yourself on something.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph b-it-article-body__interstitial-link\">[\u00a0<a aria-label=\"Open related story\" class=\"c-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/sport\/rugby\/2026\/09\/26\/peter-omahony-autobiography-all-in-rugby-munster-ireland-lions-doubts\/\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Peter O\u2019Mahony: \u2018There was stuff that I shouldn\u2019t have done \u2013 the pressure I was putting on people\u2019Opens in new window<\/a>\u00a0]<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Munster\u2019s history, though, is never entirely in the past. There always seems to be an upcoming anniversary of some event from the glory days. Munster rarely play a European game that doesn\u2019t have an historical resonance of some kind. Creamy pints of nostalgia are filled from a pouring tap. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cWe know the history,\u201d said Ian Flanagan, the outgoing chief executive, in an interview with Simon Lewis in May. \u201cWe know what we want to live up to.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">That fixed standard, though, has magnified every shortcoming over the last 15 years. When was the last time Munster had a team that could remotely live up to the overbearing achievements of the teams that set the standard? When was the last time a Munster team didn\u2019t feel dwarfed by the legacy of the jersey? <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cThings have deteriorated and the notion that Munster \u2018aren\u2019t far away\u2019 comes off as a little fanciful now. Frankly, I don\u2019t remember Munster as low,\u201d wrote Ronan O\u2019Gara in his Irish Examiner column towards the end of last season. \u201cJust because Munster are a big brand does not mean that the brand can\u2019t fail.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" data-chromatic=\"ignore\" alt=\"Munster's Billy Holland and JJ Hanrahan after losing to Toulouse in 2021. Photograph: Dan Sheridan\/Inpho\" class=\"c-image\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/DJJGENJNK5HGZHOFY6AXQYRNTU.jpg\"   width=\"800\" height=\"678\"\/>Munster&#8217;s Billy Holland and JJ Hanrahan after losing to Toulouse in 2021. Photograph: Dan Sheridan\/Inpho <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The resignation of Flanagan as chief executive last week, before the publication of an independent review into the governance of Munster Rugby, has promoted the possibility of another \u201cline in the sand\u201d. It is a familiar chorus. The problem for Munster is that Ground Zero has kept shifting. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">It is 10 years since Alan Quinlan\u2019s famous outburst on Sky Sports after Munster lost to Stade Fran\u00e7ais by 20 points in Paris, even though the French team had played for 40 minutes with just 14 men. Only a try by Conor Murray with five minutes left prevented Munster from suffering their first shutout in 21 years of European rugby up to that point. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cEmbarrassing, humiliating, disgraceful \u2013 these are the words that spring to mind,\u201d said Quinlan in the live broadcast. That season Munster failed to qualify from the pool stages of the Champions Cup for the second year in a row and didn\u2019t reach the play-off stages of the Pro12, as it was then. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The bracing thing, though, is to compare that team to the current squad: the starting 15 against Stade Fran\u00e7ais contained nine players capped by Ireland and four players who had toured with the British and Irish Lions. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Nothing like such depth exists now. When Munster lost by 31 points to the Bulls in the quarter-final of the URC last season, only four of the starting 15 had ever been capped by Ireland and they had made just 63 appearances between them \u2013 31 of which belonged to Craig Casey. None of the Munster players had toured with the British and Irish Lions. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph b-it-article-body__interstitial-link\">[\u00a0<a aria-label=\"Open related story\" class=\"c-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/sport\/rugby\/2026\/10\/03\/charlie-oshea-produces-dream-display-and-guides-munster-to-important-win-over-bulls\/\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">United Rugby Championship: Munster 26 Bulls 22Opens in new window<\/a>\u00a0]<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">In these things despair is always relative to expectation. Our memories are short too. It is only five years since, in the space of a week, Munster lost the final of the Pro14 to Leinster and ran Toulouse to seven points in the Champions Cup in Thomond Park. Both defeats were held up as harrowing examples of how far Munster had fallen off the pace at the elite level of the club game. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">How would a week like that be received now? <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The context for such despair at the time was hope. At the beginning of that season Damien De Allende and RG Snyman, World Cup winners with South Africa, had arrived on massive contracts. It was seen as a demonstration of Munster\u2019s renewed ambition. <\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" data-chromatic=\"ignore\" alt=\"Munster's Robin Copeland dejected after Stade Fran&#xE7;ais loss in 2016. Photograph: Dan Sheridan\/Inpho\" class=\"c-image\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/RWYLDMZZ3FG6FEU7RNIUJBMVB4.jpg\"   width=\"800\" height=\"555\"\/>Munster&#8217;s Robin Copeland dejected after Stade Fran\u00e7ais loss in 2016. Photograph: Dan Sheridan\/Inpho <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Trophy signings are off the menu now. Last season ended with a round of redundancies and further cuts to the playing budget. At the end of June, Munster announced a \u20ac1 million cash flow deficit in their 2024-25 accounts, which they expected would be repeated in last season\u2019s accounts. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">In his autobiography, Conor Murray wrote bluntly about the cost-cutting that had impacted on the first team and dragged the club into a swamp.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cTravelling on the cheap has become an issue in the last few seasons,\u201d he wrote about an away trip to Zebre in September 2024. \u201cIt\u2019s another manifestation of the ongoing financial spiral. They don\u2019t buy big-time players because they\u2019ll cost too much so you end up with fewer box office talents who\u2019ll get supporters coming through the turnstiles. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cYour squad becomes progressively weaker season upon season and inevitably, then, the results start to suffer. That in turn affects the gate receipts which in turn means the quality of the recruitment goes down and the vicious circle continues. An air of stagnation starts to hang over everything. And eventually you end up sending your squad cattle class to Italy and the Munster brand name takes another embarrassing hit to its prestige.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Zebre won that game, their first victory over Munster in 21 attempts. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph b-it-article-body__interstitial-link\">[\u00a0<a aria-label=\"Open related story\" class=\"c-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/sport\/rugby\/2026\/09\/29\/owen-doyle-the-centre-cannot-hold-if-teams-continue-to-flout-the-laws-of-the-game\/\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Owen Doyle: World Rugby must tackle laissez-faire policy spreading like a virus in southern hemisphereOpens in new window<\/a>\u00a0]<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The feelings that surround the club now are estranged from hope. The crowds at home games have boiled down to the hard core. Tickets for the glamorous Champions Cup game against Racing 92 in P\u00e1irc U\u00ed Chaoimh on Saturday, October 17th, are not selling fast. Filling Thomond Park for any European game now is a relic of another era. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">A change of leadership at the top of the organisation is desperately needed but there are no miracle cures. Munster have been digging this hole for years. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cThe past is a foreign country,\u201d wrote LP Hartley. \u201cThey do things differently there.\u201d<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"For everybody with feelings for Munster, there is an image of the club they refuse to give up.&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":645335,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[9],"tags":[32728,13919,61,60,11897,85450,112,15399,14881],"class_list":["post-645334","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-sports","tag-champions-cup","tag-conor-murray","tag-ie","tag-ireland","tag-munster-rugby","tag-rg-snyman","tag-sports","tag-tipping-point","tag-united-rugby-championship"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/645334","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=645334"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/645334\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/645335"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=645334"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=645334"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=645334"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}