{"id":664831,"date":"2026-10-25T10:50:10","date_gmt":"2026-10-25T10:50:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/664831\/"},"modified":"2026-10-25T10:50:10","modified_gmt":"2026-10-25T10:50:10","slug":"podcaster-ger-gilroy-on-moving-to-rte-his-upstart-attitude-and-starting-over-your-job-is-to-win-right-the-irish-times","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/664831\/","title":{"rendered":"Podcaster Ger Gilroy on moving to RT\u00c9, his upstart attitude and starting over: \u2018Your job is to win, right?\u2019 \u2013 The Irish Times"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Ger Gilroy has had a haircut.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The long ponytail he sported across his final few months as presenter of Off the Ball Breakfast is gone, chopped now to a standard-issue back and sides. Is this <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/rte\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/rte\/\">RT\u00c9<\/a> propriety in action? <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cNo,\u201d says Gilroy with a smile. \u201cMy wife made me cut my hair.\u201d <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">After 24\u00bd years at the helm of Off the Ball on <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/newstalk-radio\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/newstalk-radio\/\">Newstalk<\/a>, Gilroy has jumped to RT\u00c9 to present a new daily sports podcast, Howler. Gilroy built a sports broadcasting juggernaut at Newstalk virtually from scratch and remained its sole consistent voice from its founding, so his move made waves within Irish media circles and ripples of disquiet within RT\u00c9 itself. He insists he has not exchanged the insurgent, bustling energy of commercial media for the staid etiquette of the national broadcaster.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cIt\u2019s the energy of being a start-up again,\u201d says Gilroy when I ask what most excites him about his move. \u201cNewstalk was a start-up in 2002, and then in 2017 we built the [Off the Ball] studio as it is now, and that was a start-up. There\u2019s something magic about it.\u201d <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The start-up\u2019s scene is the RT\u00c9 administration building, a drab office block that stands beside the canteen and around halfway between the radio centre and the television studios. RT\u00c9 has inaugurated a new podcast department and housed it within this building, on a floor recently vacated by the finance department. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The clerical greys and deep-blues of the office decor are interrupted by a trio of pop-up podcast studios that are scattered across the floor. Howler\u2019s is the largest, with leather chairs arranged around a large desk in front of a brick-effect wall on which the podcast title is graffitied.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Despite this time of retrenchment, RT\u00c9 is investing in a podcast department because  it believes it will help  capture a younger audience. This is why Gilroy has been hired: RT\u00c9 believes its best avenue to the attention of young men is through sport. Gilroy has signed up a series of recurring pundits, including Diarmuid Connolly (Gaelic football), Austin Gleeson (hurling), Noel McNamara (rugby) and Kevin Kilbane (soccer). The show launched on Monday with an hour-long studio interview with recently-retired Mayo Gaelic football great, Cillian O\u2019Connor. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph b-it-article-body__interstitial-link\">[\u00a0<a aria-label=\"Open related story\" class=\"c-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/sport\/soccer\/2026\/10\/21\/too-much-overlap-gary-nevilles-podcast-empire-knows-no-bounds\/\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Too much Overlap? Gary Neville\u2019s podcast empire knows no boundsOpens in new window<\/a>\u00a0]<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cWe want to create this podcast network to get to the under-45s,\u201d says Gilroy, adding that his podcast is targeting a male audience and that a \u201cfemale-targeted product\u201d will be launched in the new year. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">He wants to make the impression on younger generations that shows like Nighthawks, No Disco and Scratch Saturday had on him. In an obvious nod to Nighthawks, adjacent to Howler\u2019s main set is a high table with a couple of bar stools, intended to resemble a pub smoking area. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">It\u2019s an ambitious vision, but how can Gilroy\u2019s show stand out in the highly saturated sports podcast market? <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cOne of the things that we\u2019re going to do is that we are going to work with independent producers to produce documentaries, and tell those big Irish stories,\u201d he says. The show also doesn\u2019t intend to stick solely to sport, with plans in place to cover social and political issues. \u201cSports fans are people too,\u201d says Gilroy. \u201cThey\u2019re genuinely interested in politics and culture and travel, so why should we not reflect that?\u201d <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Gilroy founded Off the Ball in 2002, modelling it on Eamon Dunphy\u2019s \u201canarchic and wild\u201d hour of sport on The Last Word on Today FM. He also took lessons from American sports radio and didn\u2019t want to copy RT\u00c9 in operating a call-in show. Presenters were therefore loosened to give strong, irreverent opinions. Gilroy says the show had a \u201ccurrent affairs sensibility\u201d without losing sight of the fact that sport is \u201csupposed to be a diversion from all of the shit in the rest of our lives\u201d. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Implicit within much of Off the Ball\u2019s editorial direction was that it would do what RT\u00c9 would not do and Gilroy rarely shied away from criticising the State broadcaster.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" data-chromatic=\"ignore\" alt=\"Ger Gilroy has an ambitious vision for his new podcast Howler. Photograph: Nick Bradshaw\/The Irish Times\" class=\"c-image\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/6EF6BDOATRAW3DJY23DLE6ZRQY.JPG\"   width=\"800\" height=\"533\"\/>Ger Gilroy has an ambitious vision for his new podcast Howler. Photograph: Nick Bradshaw\/The Irish Times <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Shortly after RT\u00c9 announced Gilroy\u2019s move in June, a Sunday newspaper reported on subsequent unease within RT\u00c9, quoting an anonymous source saying: \u201cGer Gilroy slagged off RT\u00c9 for years on Off the Ball, and then all of a sudden RT\u00c9 are giving him a job, and he says he is looking forward to working with the team? How does that work?\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">So, how does that work?<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cIf people are in any way upset, I understand,\u201d says Gilroy. \u201cMy gig before I got here was to do the very best for the people who worked on the team and sometimes that meant having an upstart attitude to things, and it generally worked. Off the Ball was ultimately really successful. My welcome here has been great, like honestly. You see we\u2019re in a separate building from everybody else and we\u2019ve been in our bubble here for the last couple of weeks. No one has said anything and I don\u2019t really expect them to either. Those comments are unattributed but if anybody wants to have a chat, I\u2019m more than open to it.\u201d <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">So was all of his criticism on Off the Ball, as Dunphy would say it, just showbusiness, baby? <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cNo. Everything I said would have been authentic to the time and the place. Like, your job is to win, right? And now I\u2019ve switched teams. I don\u2019t think it\u2019s that unusual. People change jobs.\u201d <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Gilroy is a staff member at RT\u00c9 and declines to share his salary. He says he has taken a \u201csignificant pay cut\u201d from his previous job as managing director of Off the Ball, and says he won\u2019t be appearing on RT\u00c9\u2019s list of top earners. RT\u00c9 also declined to disclose Gilroy\u2019s salary, saying it only publishes the remuneration of its highest earners.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Howler has launched less than a year after RT\u00c9 Radio 1 launched a new evening sports show, Inside Sport, segments of which are podcasted. Does RT\u00c9 really need more sport content? <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph\">\u2018I fundamentally believe that our democracy is under threat from the tech oligarchs\u2019<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cLook at the media landscape in any other of the countries in the civilised world, there\u2019s a full 24-hour sports radio station in almost every single one of them. We need more sports content, not less sports content,\u201d says Gilroy. He says the two offerings are different: the radio show has a faster metabolism, reacting to the day\u2019s news, while the podcast can take a longer-form look at sports issues. The podcast does plan to publish additional episodes reacting to breaking news stories. Howler pundits are not precluded from appearing on the radio show and the two shows will share running orders with each other to avoid a scenario in which they are effectively competing for guests. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph b-it-article-body__interstitial-link\">[\u00a0<a aria-label=\"Open related story\" class=\"c-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/sport\/2026\/10\/20\/how-the-la-clippers-bent-the-financial-rules-to-become-the-manchester-city-of-the-nba\/\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">How the LA Clippers bent the financial rules to become the Manchester City of the NBAOpens in new window<\/a>\u00a0]<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Gilroy says joining RT\u00c9 has already changed his perception: stumbling across the Fair City set and passing The Late Late Show studio has taught him how \u201cthis stuff matters to people\u201d.  <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cWe could have bad days,\u201d he says of Off the Ball, \u201cand people would be mean to you in the YouTube comments, or they would go on Reddit and destroy you, and it\u2019s like, \u2018oof\u2019. But here, people are under much more scrutiny \u2013 you could end up in an Oireachtas Committee really easily.\u201d <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Gilroy rose to become Off the Ball\u2019s managing director, one of the loftiest roles in Irish sports media. Why leave? <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cI was kind of edging back from presenting,\u201d he says, recounting a conversation with a former colleague in 2023 who told him: \u201cAnybody can be a media executive, but not everybody can be a presenter. Don\u2019t do it.\u201d <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">He went to the 2024 Olympics as a reporter for Off the Ball, which he says went \u201crelatively well\u201d but would have gone much better if he was not simultaneously dealing with the various commercial, marketing and HR issues thrown up by his executive role. But given he was the boss at Off the Ball, why not change his own role rather than leave altogether? <\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" data-chromatic=\"ignore\" alt=\"Ger Gilroy's focus is now on presenting. Photograph: Nick Bradshaw\/The Irish Times\" class=\"c-image\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/DTEVCKXYNRGPDCIYW5CQHUPWE4.JPG\"   width=\"800\" height=\"533\"\/>Ger Gilroy&#8217;s focus is now on presenting. Photograph: Nick Bradshaw\/The Irish Times <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cPotentially I could,\u201d he says, \u201cbut I kind of felt like I\u2019d done everything that I wanted to do at Off the Ball. We\u2019d been through that cycle of building different teams and were entering into a brand refresh, and I was not sure I had the appetite to go again on this.\u201d <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The first team of Ken Early, Eoin McDevitt, Ciar\u00e1n Murphy, Mark Horgan and Simon Hick abruptly left in 2013 after a dispute with station bosses over scheduling, founding their own podcast, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/business\/2025\/10\/01\/second-captains-team-each-takes-home-almost-166000-from-podcasts-last-year\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/business\/2025\/10\/01\/second-captains-team-each-takes-home-almost-166000-from-podcasts-last-year\/\">Second Captains<\/a>. Their exit was initially so contentious that some regular Off the Ball contributors refused to join Gilroy on air as he was frantically pulling together a show for that evening. Gilroy says that whenever he meets any of the quintet now, relations are \u201cincredibly cordial and warm\u201d. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph b-it-article-body__interstitial-link\">[\u00a0<a aria-label=\"Open related story\" class=\"c-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/sport\/soccer\/2026\/10\/19\/the-premier-leagues-intensity-arms-race-is-killing-the-art-of-football\/\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">There\u2019s a clear reason the world\u2019s best players are staying away from the Premier LeagueOpens in new window<\/a>\u00a0]<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cThey\u2019re obviously geniuses,\u201d he says. \u201cThis [interview] is coming out in the aftermath of the George Gibney sentencing. That\u2019s very special work that Mark and Ciar\u00e1n Cassidy [co-producers of the podcast series Where is George Gibney?] have done. Ken\u2019s obviously a genius, and the rest of the lads have been unbelievably successful in all of their chosen fields across television, print and their audio empire.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Second Captains declined to comment.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Gilroy rebuilt the presenting team, many of whom have now left, including Joe Molloy \u2013 poached by the Irish Independent \u2013 and Nathan Murphy, who became the managing editor of Today FM. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Gilroy\u2019s own career thoughts were relegated to the trivial at Christmas 2024, when his wife Aifric found a lump. She underwent five surgeries across the following year and has now been given the all-clear. Once he had that peace of mind, Gilroy thought once again about his career. He got a call earlier this year from a former Newstalk colleague, Hugh Ormond, now RT\u00c9\u2019s head of podcasts, who pitched a daily sports podcast to him. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Gilroy and Ormond first crossed paths as students at Trinity College, where Ormond was a year ahead. Both worked in the college\u2019s publication office, Gilroy with Trinity News and Ormond with the satirical newspaper, Piranha. Gilroy says they got to know each other at Newstalk: Ormond produced the breakfast show presented by Eamon Dunphy, on which Gilroy was a regular stand-in presenter.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Today, Gilroy says he has a \u201ctotal preoccupation about the internet and AI\u201d. He talks at length about Cambridge Analytica, online surveillance, AI slop and social media disinformation. All of these disparate anxieties crystallised in 2024 when he and his wife gave their daughter her first smartphone as she started secondary school.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph b-it-article-body__interstitial-link\">[\u00a0<a aria-label=\"Open related story\" class=\"c-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/sport\/gaelic-games\/2026\/10\/21\/hurling-advisory-group-hope-new-rules-experiment-will-be-broadcast\/\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Hurling advisory group hope new rules experiment will be broadcastOpens in new window<\/a>\u00a0]<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The result is that he has come to believe more strongly than ever in the importance of a strong and regulated media. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cI fundamentally believe that our democracy is under threat from the tech oligarchs who don\u2019t give a f**k about us,\u201d he says. \u201cThey don\u2019t care about anything. Like they certainly don\u2019t care about the little worker drones here in Ireland, they care about our tax laws. By creating a big audience of people who will listen to our sport and other content, hopefully they\u2019ll migrate on to the RT\u00c9 platform and listen to the incredible current affairs and analysis that\u2019s happening here. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cThis is real. The stuff we\u2019re doing is real. There are really high editorial standards. I\u2019m not saying that wasn\u2019t the case at [Newstalk owners] Bauer, but I had two jobs at Bauer, and I have one job here.\u201d <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">This doesn\u2019t mean that Gilroy regrets Off the Ball\u2019s prolific use of social media in recent years and he says Howler will publish to social media, too. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cThe audience is there,\u201d he says. \u201cI think that a blanket withdrawal from these algorithms also isn\u2019t the right way to go. Helping to put good content in front of people, and showing that all the content doesn\u2019t have to be AI-generated is the Faustian pact that we\u2019ve entered into with these people.\u201d <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Gilroy says he has no interest in being a future head of sport at RT\u00c9. \u201cI have no interest in that,\u201d he says. \u201cYou\u2019re giving me all the rumours, now. I want to present. I want to tell stories. There\u2019s never been a more important time to tell stories.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Gilroy says there are specific audience targets for Howler. He declines to share them, but adds one more metric for success. \u201cCausing a bit of trouble and doing some journalism, which you\u2019re allowed. Just asking good questions is causing trouble.\u201d <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Ger Gilroy has had a haircut. 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