{"id":676112,"date":"2026-11-05T21:48:20","date_gmt":"2026-11-05T21:48:20","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/676112\/"},"modified":"2026-11-05T21:48:20","modified_gmt":"2026-11-05T21:48:20","slug":"oil-could-fall-to-80-85-after-war-while-kevin-warsh-believes-in-pixies-ubs-economist-says","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/676112\/","title":{"rendered":"Oil could fall to $80-$85 after war, while Kevin Warsh believes in pixies, UBS economist says"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"defaultstyled__StyledText-sc-11u52t4-1 eVvrYS margin-lg-bottom\" id=\"el-0-FB4WXAA33VCX7PZOJ6UJQINBC4\">It has been a dramatic start to the week. Oil fell by more than 7 per cent on Monday after the presidents of the US and Iran signalled they were open to a diplomatic solution, and on Tuesday the Democrats won control of both the House of Representatives and the Senate in the US midterm elections.<\/p>\n<p class=\"defaultstyled__StyledText-sc-11u52t4-1 eVvrYS margin-lg-bottom\" id=\"el-1-COB6R6XGCFD6VIV2KOLTDHXLII\">We sat down with Paul Donovan, chief economist at UBS Global Wealth Management, in Abu Dhabi on the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thenationalnews.com\/news\/us\/2026\/11\/04\/watch-us-midterm-elections-2026-results-live-middle-east-impact\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.thenationalnews.com\/news\/us\/2026\/11\/04\/watch-us-midterm-elections-2026-results-live-middle-east-impact\/\">eve of the election<\/a>, before the Democratic wave.<\/p>\n<p class=\"defaultstyled__StyledText-sc-11u52t4-1 eVvrYS margin-lg-bottom\" id=\"el-3-52OBMBFEIRHLPG5VDE2JRBVJ3Y\">He says oil has further to fall once the fighting is over.<\/p>\n<p class=\"defaultstyled__StyledText-sc-11u52t4-1 eVvrYS margin-lg-bottom\" id=\"el-4-JOWSAKLFCJFVPFTLGANMYZPIXI\">\u201cI think we\u2019re looking at, as it were, a fundamental fair value for the oil price is probably around $80, $85 a barrel, something like that,\u201d he said. \u201cThat\u2019s where we probably settle \u2026 in a postwar environment.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"defaultstyled__StyledText-sc-11u52t4-1 eVvrYS margin-lg-bottom\" id=\"el-6-SXVQUIKXTJGJTC5REQX3RIHTFY\">The fall took some geopolitical risk out of the market, he said, \u201cbut what we haven\u2019t changed is the fundamentals of supply and demand\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>Federal Reserve risks<\/p>\n<p class=\"defaultstyled__StyledText-sc-11u52t4-1 eVvrYS margin-lg-bottom\" id=\"el-8-2OWYPMIPTVAV5HDJETROS4EFTE\">The bigger risk sits with the Federal Reserve.<\/p>\n<p class=\"defaultstyled__StyledText-sc-11u52t4-1 eVvrYS margin-lg-bottom\" id=\"el-9-DTZIS37BRRADHFD3VLOO4TDV3U\">Before a single vote was cast, Mr Donovan said the Senate mattered most for monetary policy, because Fed governors need its confirmation. With \u201ca great deal of \u2026 Democrat anger at the administration\u201d, a Democratic Senate could refuse US President Donald Trump\u2019s nominees or drag the process out.<\/p>\n<p class=\"defaultstyled__StyledText-sc-11u52t4-1 eVvrYS margin-lg-bottom\" id=\"el-10-AWZ7QRW4LRALTPLTJDECRCHF7Q\">\u201cFor the most part, I don\u2019t care about \u2026 ambassadorships or frankly even cabinet posts most of the time, but the Federal Reserve \u2026 that matters,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" type=\"image\" data-identifier=\"image\" alt=\"How low can oil go? UBS Wealth Management's chief economist on postwar prices\" loading=\"lazy\" fetchpriority=\"auto\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/11\/1793915300_811_poster.jpg\" width=\"279\" height=\"496\"\/><\/p>\n<p>How low can oil go? UBS Wealth Management&#8217;s chief economist on postwar prices<\/p>\n<p class=\"defaultstyled__StyledText-sc-11u52t4-1 eVvrYS margin-lg-bottom\" id=\"el-13-OGWKPEWWKZB6HABRUA2FGWOVZY\">If governors leave and their seats stay empty, the five voting regional Fed presidents gain weight, and \u201cthe regional Fed presidents tend to be somewhat more hawkish than the governors\u201d, he said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"defaultstyled__StyledText-sc-11u52t4-1 eVvrYS margin-lg-bottom\" id=\"el-14-YD3L3L2UPBAGRCTU2KKENJZRGM\">Even so, he expects little tightening.<\/p>\n<p class=\"defaultstyled__StyledText-sc-11u52t4-1 eVvrYS margin-lg-bottom\" id=\"el-15-ZNKLVOAAM5FENAE6TG4KZ5WOVA\">\u201cSo I think rate hikes in \u201927, if we get any, we maybe get one,\u201d he said. \u201cThe inflation actually isn\u2019t persistent.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"defaultstyled__StyledText-sc-11u52t4-1 eVvrYS margin-lg-bottom\" id=\"el-16-M3RWPYVXEJA35IYAEMZ2BS4AWY\">It only feels that way.<\/p>\n<p class=\"defaultstyled__StyledText-sc-11u52t4-1 eVvrYS margin-lg-bottom\" id=\"el-17-KHA5UFSUCFFXDCM3M3AUURVK2I\">\u201cThe problem is we\u2019ve had a whole succession of one-off distinct inflation shocks, which the central banks can do very little about,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"defaultstyled__StyledText-sc-11u52t4-1 eVvrYS margin-lg-bottom\" id=\"el-18-B2F2KLJXRJC7RE2DMCZ4B2DRY4\">He counted them off: supply chain disruption after the pandemic, Russia\u2019s invasion of Ukraine, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thenationalnews.com\/news\/us\/2026\/07\/23\/us-tariffs-trump-forced-labour\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.thenationalnews.com\/news\/us\/2026\/07\/23\/us-tariffs-trump-forced-labour\/\">the tariffs<\/a> and now the war in this region.<\/p>\n<p class=\"defaultstyled__StyledText-sc-11u52t4-1 eVvrYS margin-lg-bottom\" id=\"el-19-P7ES6OX6SJCEPAWFLPK344YC7Y\">\u201cIt\u2019s a series of very distinct, discrete temporary effects.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"defaultstyled__StyledText-sc-11u52t4-1 eVvrYS margin-lg-bottom\" id=\"el-20-GE3BHAY4LJBLDC4USGRXZT34VA\">The tariff effect is already fading from the US figures, and oil could follow.<\/p>\n<p class=\"defaultstyled__StyledText-sc-11u52t4-1 eVvrYS margin-lg-bottom\" id=\"el-21-4ZIWLWWT2VDN3B4ZPFUPKN3ZGY\">\u201cWe\u2019re seeing no wage price spirals, nothing like anywhere in the developed world, certainly not in the United States where real wages have been falling,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"defaultstyled__StyledText-sc-11u52t4-1 eVvrYS margin-lg-bottom\" id=\"el-22-RQPRMVHLJ5CQFMTWRNVXRIG2O4\">If oil prices are flat or slightly down on a year earlier by the second quarter of next year, \u201cyou very rapidly get back to a more normal inflation picture\u201d.<\/p>\n<p class=\"defaultstyled__StyledText-sc-11u52t4-1 eVvrYS margin-lg-bottom\" id=\"el-23-DLFZPQ3TOJHYZJ4GCUXFM7KKHI\">It all hangs on oil.<\/p>\n<p class=\"defaultstyled__StyledText-sc-11u52t4-1 eVvrYS margin-lg-bottom\" id=\"el-24-RFUNLFH6WRGK5JD5XBYLEC324M\">\u201cSo it is contingent on the oil price coming down,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"defaultstyled__StyledText-sc-11u52t4-1 eVvrYS margin-lg-bottom\" id=\"el-25-UAW5AWBFUZB5VKYLNYZ33VWGC4\">It also hangs on the American consumer, who in Mr Donovan\u2019s telling has been stoic rather than hedonistic.<\/p>\n<p class=\"defaultstyled__StyledText-sc-11u52t4-1 eVvrYS margin-lg-bottom\" id=\"el-26-LMUIMTRVF5BIFBMM4NINVACALY\">\u201cConsumers did not cut back on other spending in order to pay for the higher oil price. They cut back on savings,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"defaultstyled__StyledText-sc-11u52t4-1 eVvrYS margin-lg-bottom\" id=\"el-27-7QWCHJR6ANEB3MYKITA5NMPAUI\">That cushion is thinner now, and shoppers are less ready for another shock, \u201cbut as long as you don\u2019t get future shocks, then they carry on \u2026 in a stable way\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>The productivity pixie<\/p>\n<p class=\"defaultstyled__StyledText-sc-11u52t4-1 eVvrYS margin-lg-bottom\" id=\"el-29-ZUM7F3JVUZE47EMZVF2PUSAWCE\">Mr Donovan was less kind about the new Fed chairman, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thenationalnews.com\/business\/2026\/07\/31\/kevin-warsh-faces-challenge-of-uniting-a-divided-federal-reserve\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.thenationalnews.com\/business\/2026\/07\/31\/kevin-warsh-faces-challenge-of-uniting-a-divided-federal-reserve\/\">Kevin Warsh<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p class=\"defaultstyled__StyledText-sc-11u52t4-1 eVvrYS margin-lg-bottom\" id=\"el-30-ROYB3A6MXJCFPCMYMQMPLHW4PE\">\u201cI think it is unfortunate that he has chosen to \u2026 not communicate clearly,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"defaultstyled__StyledText-sc-11u52t4-1 eVvrYS margin-lg-bottom\" id=\"el-31-UP55PJCFNZHF3KIR2P7GVNVH74\">The only thing known about Mr Warsh\u2019s thinking, he said, is that \u201che believes the productivity pixie is gonna magically solve all problems in the future\u201d.<\/p>\n<p class=\"defaultstyled__StyledText-sc-11u52t4-1 eVvrYS margin-lg-bottom\" id=\"el-32-OWISEUXLRJEPBGQK54NYHKSPSA\">The pixie is the hope that a burst of productivity will make tomorrow\u2019s sums work.<\/p>\n<p class=\"defaultstyled__StyledText-sc-11u52t4-1 eVvrYS margin-lg-bottom\" id=\"el-33-S7PRDNG7RNEBFDPUHTPC4C4WKY\">Asked whether he shared that faith, Mr Donovan said he did not.<\/p>\n<p class=\"defaultstyled__StyledText-sc-11u52t4-1 eVvrYS margin-lg-bottom\" id=\"el-34-4RQB2REOSNB2LO54GT5TAD5WUE\">\u201cI do not believe in the productivity pixie, I\u2019m afraid,\u201d he said. \u201cI think it is a convenient excuse to make everything in the future add up when actually everything in the future doesn\u2019t really add up at the moment.\u201d <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"It has been a dramatic start to the week. 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