{"id":96527,"date":"2025-10-22T07:53:11","date_gmt":"2025-10-22T07:53:11","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/96527\/"},"modified":"2025-10-22T07:53:11","modified_gmt":"2025-10-22T07:53:11","slug":"author-philip-pullman-calls-on-government-to-act-over-wicked-ai-scraping","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/96527\/","title":{"rendered":"Author Philip Pullman calls on government to act over &#8216;wicked&#8217; AI scraping"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Helen BushbyCulture reporter<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/1760613788_342_grey-placeholder.png\" class=\"sc-5340b511-0 hagXkB hide-when-no-script\" aria-label=\"image unavailable\"\/><img decoding=\"async\"   src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/233c56d0-aea1-11f0-b305-65f4f8d88da9.jpg.webp.webp\" loading=\"eager\" alt=\"Sam Allard Philip Pullman with glasses in a brown &amp; beige cardigan and blue shirt against trees and leaves background\" class=\"sc-5340b511-0 bGQwLJ\"\/>Sam Allard<\/p>\n<p>Sir Philip Pullman wrote about Lyra Silvertongue in His Dark Materials and The Book of Dust trilogies<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 bJoRPJ\">Author Sir Philip Pullman has called on the government to change copyright laws on &#8220;scraping&#8221;, where writers&#8217; books are used to train artificial intelligence (AI) software to understand and generate human language.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 bJoRPJ\">Writers whose work has been scraped don&#8217;t get compensation or recognition, something authors including <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/technology\/2025\/jan\/14\/british-novelists-criticise-government-over-ai-theft\" class=\"sc-f9178328-0 jZoZnB\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">Kate Mosse and Richard Osman have criticised<\/a>, saying it could destroy growth in creative fields and amount to &#8220;theft&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 bJoRPJ\">Sir Philip, author of the hugely popular novels about Lyra Silvertongue, the heroine of His Dark Materials and The Book of Dust trilogies, thinks writers should be compensated.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 bJoRPJ\">&#8220;They can do what they like with my work if they pay me for it,&#8221; he told the BBC&#8217;s culture editor Katie Razzall. &#8220;But stealing people&#8217;s work&#8230; and then passing it off as something else&#8230; That&#8217;s immoral but unfortunately not illegal.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/1760613788_342_grey-placeholder.png\" class=\"sc-5340b511-0 hagXkB hide-when-no-script\" aria-label=\"image unavailable\"\/><img decoding=\"async\"   src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/0536ad70-aab4-11f0-8051-295629adf78e.jpg.webp.webp\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Philip Pullman's His Dark Materials and Book of Dust novels\" class=\"sc-5340b511-0 bGQwLJ\"\/><\/p>\n<p>The Rose Field is the last book in two trilogies, which have so far sold 49 million copies globally<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 bJoRPJ\">Sir Philip said: &#8220;As far as I know everybody&#8217;s work has been stolen, scraped like a trawler&#8230; at the bottom of the sea. Prawns, oysters, starfishes, mermaids, whatever. You name it, it&#8217;s all killed.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 bJoRPJ\">&#8220;It&#8217;s a wicked system and I&#8217;m profoundly against it.&#8221; <\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 bJoRPJ\">Sir Philip says he wants the government to act now, change the law and fight back. <\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 bJoRPJ\">&#8220;Of course they should change it at once,&#8221; he said. &#8220;Don&#8217;t you steal anybody else&#8217;s work.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/1760613788_342_grey-placeholder.png\" class=\"sc-5340b511-0 hagXkB hide-when-no-script\" aria-label=\"image unavailable\"\/><img decoding=\"async\"   src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/9615ff50-aab2-11f0-8051-295629adf78e.jpg.webp.webp\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Bad Wolf Dafne Keen as Lyra with her daemon Pan\" class=\"sc-5340b511-0 bGQwLJ\"\/>Bad Wolf<\/p>\n<p>Dafne Keen, with her daemon Pan, played Lyra in the BBC&#8217;s His Dark Materials series, which ran from 2019 to 2022<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 bJoRPJ\">Sir Philip&#8217;s latest novel, The Rose Field, completes the second trilogy about Lyra. The first five books have so far sold 49 million copies globally.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 bJoRPJ\">Lyra lives in a universe parallel to our own, where people have a daemon &#8211; a companion spirit in animal form. <\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 bJoRPJ\">Early on she uncovers a conspiracy using kidnapped children, and uses a truth-telling device called an alethiometer.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 bJoRPJ\">&#8220;She&#8217;s always curious and inquisitive,&#8221; he says. &#8220;I think it&#8217;s a very important quality. We should praise people who are curious. We should encourage it in children.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 bJoRPJ\">The books see her grow from an 11-year-old girl into a woman in her early 20s, with her world ruled by the Magisterium, a shadowy religious and political organisation. <\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 bJoRPJ\">In The Rose Field, the Magisterium is waging war on imagination, which it calls a false, seductive and dangerous doctrine.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/1760613788_342_grey-placeholder.png\" class=\"sc-5340b511-0 hagXkB hide-when-no-script\" aria-label=\"image unavailable\"\/><img decoding=\"async\"   src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/82134350-aaad-11f0-8051-295629adf78e.jpg.webp.webp\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Philip Pullman and Katie Razzall in his study looking at his alethiometer, a mediums-sized circular gold object in a blue box lined with silk\" class=\"sc-5340b511-0 bGQwLJ\"\/><\/p>\n<p>Sir Philip shows Katie Razzall his alethiometer, which he had made by a jeweller<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 bJoRPJ\">Former English teacher Sir Philip, 78, goes on to describe what he sees as real-life enemies of imagination.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 bJoRPJ\">He highlights &#8220;the education policy of the government, which insists on learning things off by heart, sitting in rows and walking silently down corridors&#8221;, along with learning about the grammar of language &#8220;before you can use it&#8221;, calling this &#8220;nonsense&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 bJoRPJ\">The writer, who is clearly a fan of using the imagination, as evidenced in his writing, calls it &#8220;a form of perception&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 bJoRPJ\">He explains that his final book in the trilogy is about the the realm of the &#8220;Rose Field, in which things exist that you can only see with your imagination&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 bJoRPJ\">&#8220;They&#8217;re there but you can&#8217;t see them if you don&#8217;t imagine them, for example, ghosts, wishes, hopes, memories&#8230; <\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 bJoRPJ\">&#8220;Things you can&#8217;t necessarily weigh, measure or analyse chemically, but which are there nonetheless, such as love, fear, hope. That&#8217;s what Lyra has discovered in the course of this book.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 bJoRPJ\">He&#8217;s also an outspoken critic of organised religion.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 bJoRPJ\">&#8220;The arguments I have are with people in power who use religion to make other people do things&#8230; religion gives them a sense of extra certainty when they do that because they believe that they&#8217;re fulfilling the will of God,&#8221; he says.<\/p>\n<p>Final farewell to Lyra?<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 bJoRPJ\">Despite writing about other worlds, realms and creatures, he insists he is not a fantasy writer, unlike JRR Tolkien, the author of the Hobbit and Lord of the Rings books. <\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 bJoRPJ\">&#8220;I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s any comparison at all between me and Tolkien. He was a writer of fantasy, and I&#8217;m not writer of fantasy.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 bJoRPJ\">Despite his books containing magical objects, talking animals and mythical griffins, he insists he is &#8220;writing about the real world through a little filter&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 bJoRPJ\">He adds that after saying farewell to Lyra and all the other characters in his books, he will &#8220;miss them a little bit&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 bJoRPJ\">But for his millions of fans, there is a glimmer of hope.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 bJoRPJ\">This might not be the end of Lyra&#8217;s story. <\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 bJoRPJ\">&#8220;I can&#8217;t say that,&#8221; he says. &#8220;It might happen.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/1760613788_342_grey-placeholder.png\" class=\"sc-5340b511-0 hagXkB hide-when-no-script\" aria-label=\"image unavailable\"\/><img decoding=\"async\"   src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/f185fa50-aab4-11f0-8051-295629adf78e.jpg.webp.webp\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Will Carne Michael Sheen and Philip Pullman talking on a sofa \" class=\"sc-5340b511-0 bGQwLJ\"\/>Will Carne<\/p>\n<p>Actor Michael Sheen reads the audiobook for Sir Philip&#8217;s new novel<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 bJoRPJ\">He is now writing a memoir about his &#8220;unusual childhood&#8221; and a picture of the world he grew up in.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 bJoRPJ\">His final thought is about the daemons in his books, and he muses over what animal form his own might take. <\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 bJoRPJ\">&#8220;I think she&#8217;d be a corvid,&#8221; he says. &#8220;I love ravens. They&#8217;re not very well loved. I don&#8217;t care. <\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 bJoRPJ\">&#8220;Their flying is extraordinary, their aerobatics turning upside down and zooming so close to the ground. <\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 bJoRPJ\">&#8220;They&#8217;re wonderful birds to watch, they&#8217;re very clever. <\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 bJoRPJ\">&#8220;And In some mythologies, the raven is the storyteller.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 bJoRPJ\">The Rose Field: The Book of Dust Volume Three will be published on 23 October, including the audiobook, which is read by actor Michael Sheen.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Helen BushbyCulture reporter Sam Allard Sir Philip Pullman wrote about Lyra Silvertongue in His Dark Materials and The&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":96528,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[20],"tags":[220,218,219,61,60,80],"class_list":{"0":"post-96527","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-artificial-intelligence","8":"tag-ai","9":"tag-artificial-intelligence","10":"tag-artificialintelligence","11":"tag-ie","12":"tag-ireland","13":"tag-technology"},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/96527","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=96527"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/96527\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/96528"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=96527"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=96527"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=96527"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}