{"id":133499,"date":"2025-11-14T19:54:08","date_gmt":"2025-11-14T19:54:08","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/il\/133499\/"},"modified":"2025-11-14T19:54:08","modified_gmt":"2025-11-14T19:54:08","slug":"i-dont-have-any-urge-to-be-mysterious-at-the-moment","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/il\/133499\/","title":{"rendered":"I don&#8217;t have any urge to be mysterious at the moment"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.nme.com\/artists\/ellie-goulding\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Ellie Goulding<\/a> has spoken to NME about her liberating new single \u2018Destiny\u2019, finding inspiration in a dark period, plans for a classical album, a potential career in the film industry, and her respect for <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nme.com\/artists\/lily-allen\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Lily Allen<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Released today (Friday November 14), the new track marks the first solo material from Goulding since 2023\u2019s album \u2018<a href=\"https:\/\/www.nme.com\/reviews\/album\/ellie-goulding-higher-than-heaven-review-3426776\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Higher Than Heaven<\/a>\u2018. While that record saw her take on a more escapist approach, her new material sees her return back-to-basics and more personal.<\/p>\n<p>Inspired by the heartbreak and lingering questions that arose after her divorce, the new track is one where British songwriter leans into her vulnerability, and starts reclaim a sense of joy that previously laid dormant.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI first heard this track when I had recently separated from my husband. This was at a really turbulent time for me because I was trying to navigate what felt like a separation of all separations,\u201d Goulding tells NME. \u201cIt was a marriage, not just a relationship. I didn\u2019t know what else to do other than make music.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cSo I saw Jack Rochon, who was producing mostly trap music at the time, playing guitar on Instagram in such a beautiful way that I was immediately fixated. So I DM\u2019ed him saying I wanted to work with him, and we met up that same day to start the journey.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The end product is the introspective and euphoric \u2018Destiny\u2019, where Goulding gradually starts to embrace the glimmers of hope that arise after a period of darkness. The singer also described it as the beginning of a new chapter, in which she will be continuing to strip back the bells-and-whistles in her music, and put forward some of her most vulnerable lyrics yet.<\/p>\n<p>Check out the full interview with Goulding below, where she also told us about hopes to work on film scores, continuing work on her long-mooted classical album, the resurgence of some of her older songs, and how she felt inspired by Lily Allen\u2019s new music.<\/p>\n<p>NME: Hi Ellie, tell us about \u2018Destiny\u2019. It feels like a song really rooted in self-acceptance and liberation\u2026<\/p>\n<p>Ellie Goulding: \u201cBefore now, I\u2019d been making slightly more escapist music, in the hopes that if I didn\u2019t write about things that were too personal, it might help me escape into this other world. I realised that wasn\u2019t serving me, though. It wasn\u2019t helping me with anything.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThis was the first time I\u2019d heard a track in this era of my life that seemed to just spell out acceptance and surrender of what had happened, rather than indulging myself in a really sad song that would\u2019ve just continued to break me. This song felt like I could really accept things. It felt like it was making way for something better, and it made me realise that some things are destined for you.\u00a0I\u2019m really grateful that that song came around when it did. It felt like a moment of escape and surrender that I needed at the time.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Has being back in the studio helped you come out if the other side stronger?<\/p>\n<p>\u201cYeah, it doesn\u2019t matter how strong a character you have, when it comes to separating from your husband, you can never be strong enough for that. It\u2019s like a grieving process because you\u2019ve lost not just the person, but the life that was projected for you.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt was a long process, and it felt really triumphant to start waking up in the morning and, little by little, starting to feel it less. It\u2019s never gone away, and only time will tell if it ever will\u2026 but it\u2019s been a process of everyday feeling a little bit better. That to me was such a victory. To be able to channel things like that into poetry and lyrics, and then put it into songs like \u2018Destiny\u2019, it just felt like a triumph. I felt proud that I\u2019d taken these steps to feel myself again. We\u2019re never gonna escape pain; we have to use it for good and make it into something.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-3908284\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/il\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/ellie-goulding-destiny@2000x2000.jpg\" alt=\"Ellie Goulding 'Destiny' single cover. CREDIT: Press\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1995\"  \/>Ellie Goulding \u2018Destiny\u2019 single cover. CREDIT: Press<\/p>\n<p>You said this marks the start of a new chapter. What can we expect from this era?<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI\u2019ve just gone back to my guitar and written songs with Jack and with a couple of others. I\u2019ve been to Nashville for the first time to write, and I was in LA to do some old-school writing sessions. I wanted to do that because I can get really carried away in the production of things. I really love electronic music, so I can get really particular about sounds, but I wanted to switch it up for this. It\u2019s really expansive and clever, but for the most part, it\u2019s just really nice to play these songs. It feels like the version of me that had nothing to lose.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cBack before I signed a record deal, I was just writing songs, letting them come out naturally and not thinking too much. To be honest though, I still really have nothing to lose because I\u2019m always doing projects that indulge me, like classical music, electronic, and dance, plus I still get to write pop songs that are really appealing to me. This is probably the most honest I\u2019ve been in my lyrics. I don\u2019t have anyone to answer to. In certain situations, you\u2019re trying to please someone, but for the first time ever, I don\u2019t feel like I have to do that. I\u2019m just making music that I love.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt\u2019s a really liberating feeling I have at the moment. The songs aren\u2019t too on the nose or mainstream, but they\u2019re also not too unusual. It\u2019s all just really freeing and different.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Last year y<a href=\"https:\/\/www.nme.com\/news\/music\/ellie-goulding-teases-very-personal-new-album-on-the-way-3817960\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">ou revealed that you were working on an album of classical music<\/a>. How that coming along?<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWell, I\u2019ve been really inspired [to go back to it] lately because my boyfriend loves classical music, and I was amazed that he was introducing me to songs that I didn\u2019t know. I thought I was so on top of like contemporary classical music until then.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt\u2019s funny, I actually texted my collaborator <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nme.com\/artists\/max-martin\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Max [Martin, <\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/www.nme.com\/artists\/britney-spears\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Britney Spears<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nme.com\/artists\/taylor-swift\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Taylor Swift<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nme.com\/artists\/the-weeknd\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">The Weeknd<\/a>] a couple of days ago and said that we need to finish it. I played it to a few people I know, and I played it to the classical label at Universal, and everyone loves it. But I guess I got too stuck into this album first. There are classical elements on this record coming up. For instance we have little orchestral elements and a choir, so it\u2019s still definitely featured, but I do need to commit to the other album as well. It would it be a dream to like compose for films one day, so I should just commit to it\u2026\u201d<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-3908456\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/il\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/ellie@2000x1270.jpg\" alt=\"Ellie Goulding. CREDIT: Ronan Park\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1270\"  \/>Ellie Goulding. CREDIT: Ronan Park<\/p>\n<p>Speaking of music on the big screen, how did it feel to see your song \u2018Anything Could Happen\u2019 was not only in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nme.com\/news\/tv\/nobody-wants-this-season-2-soundtrack-3901824\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Nobody Wants This<\/a>, but also had the episode named after it?\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt was also used at the same time in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nme.com\/series\/the-summer-i-turned-pretty\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">The Summer I Turned Pretty<\/a>! It feels like my songs have a new life right now, and it\u2019s really fun to see. I\u2019m still gaining new fans from very old songs I thought were like done and dusted. They just keep on coming back. Now I\u2019ll have to play that song again live because people wanna hear it, and I\u2019ll have to play \u2018Hate Me\u2019 with <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nme.com\/artists\/juice-wrld\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Juice WRLD<\/a> again live.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI tucked \u2018Lights\u2019 away for a while for technical reasons and because it\u2019s so hard to sing live. When I got to that part in the set, I\u2019d always be like, \u2018Oh my gosh, I really wrote the hardest song to sing\u2026 maybe people just won\u2019t notice if I don\u2019t sing that one anymore\u2019. But people did notice and they were asking me why! It\u2019s going to be interesting like figuring out the setlists next year, because I\u2019ll need to showcase the new music along with some of the old.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Is that a film or a series that you would like to see your music in?<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt really depends what it is. I\u2019ve been watching far too much serial killer stuff, but that would be questionable. I watched <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nme.com\/reviews\/film-reviews\/die-my-love-review-jennifer-lawrence-robert-pattinson-3863494\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Die My Love<\/a> the other day in the cinema \u2014 actually Lily Allen was randomly there watching it as well \u2014 and that style of film really appeals to me. I\u2019d like my music to be used in something that. Ideally though, I\u2019d like it more to compose new music for a film like that.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Since you mentioned Lily Allen, tell us, have you checked out her new album, \u2018<a href=\"https:\/\/www.nme.com\/reviews\/album\/lily-allen-west-end-girl-review-3901723\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">West End Girl<\/a>\u2018?<\/p>\n<p>\u201cYes, and I think it\u2019s great. I really love the honesty of it, and I think that it\u2019s really important that female artists today can be <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nme.com\/news\/music\/lily-allen-on-new-album-west-end-girl-dealing-with-deep-rooted-issues-with-rejection-and-abandonment-after-david-harbour-divorce-3901923\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">completely open about their lives<\/a>. There have been many songs by male artists that I remember from when I was younger that touched on things in their lives. Talking about how they had been slighted by women and scorned by women, so I really love this era right now of total transparency, because it\u2019s what people want to hear.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThere\u2019s probably 50 per cent of people who are going through breakups and divorces and separations, and it\u2019s never black and white. It\u2019s never straightforward. There\u2019s so much nuance, so I love that artists like Lily can have that chance to just put it out there. She\u2019s a poet.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI think we\u2019re very different as artists, but we came up at the same time, so I\u2019ve always had a lot of respect for her and her honesty. I can relate to her right now in the sense that I don\u2019t have any urge to be mysterious at the moment. I have an urge to talk about my life, and I want people to relate. I want to feel like there\u2019s some kind of camaraderie with women who are going through it.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-3908455\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/il\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/ellie-goulding@2000x1270.jpg\" alt=\"Ellie Goulding. CREDIT: Ronan Park\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1270\"  \/>Ellie Goulding. CREDIT: Ronan Park<\/p>\n<p>Do you feel an expectation or responsibility? to put yourself out there?<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI think fans grow close to you as an artist if you are just authentic in what you do. If you want to sing about going for a walk, but you really love the walk and you sing about it with every fibre of your being, fans can see that, and that makes it a good piece of music.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIf you sing about the fact that you\u2019ve been fucked over, fans will get with you. If you sing about wanting to just go and get drunk, because that is genuinely you want it to be about, fans will appreciate that. It sounds really rudimentary, but I think if you are singing exactly about what you want to sing about and you\u2019re doing it the way you want to do it, that is really obvious to fans. Listeners aren\u2019t stupid; they know when you\u2019re doing something inauthentic.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI think my fans knew that with \u2018Higher Than Heaven\u2019\u00a0 \u2013 because, to me, it sounds like me doing an AI album. When I listen to it back, I\u2019m like, \u2018This just doesn\u2019t sound like me\u2026 but, but for whatever reason, I needed to do that at that time\u2019. I remember saying it was my least personal record. Now though, I can say for sure that this new album is very much the antithesis of that.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Ellie Goulding\u2019s new single \u2018Destiny\u2019 is out now, and more details about her upcoming album are expected in the coming months.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Ellie Goulding has spoken to NME about her liberating new single \u2018Destiny\u2019, finding inspiration in a dark period,&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":133500,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[28],"tags":[146,85,46,409,875],"class_list":["post-133499","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-music","tag-entertainment","tag-il","tag-israel","tag-music","tag-pop"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/il\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/133499","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/il\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/il\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/il\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/il\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=133499"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/il\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/133499\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/il\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/133500"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/il\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=133499"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/il\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=133499"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/il\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=133499"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}