{"id":222365,"date":"2026-01-05T22:14:08","date_gmt":"2026-01-05T22:14:08","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/il\/222365\/"},"modified":"2026-01-05T22:14:08","modified_gmt":"2026-01-05T22:14:08","slug":"why-trump-really-wanted-maduro-out","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/il\/222365\/","title":{"rendered":"Why Trump really wanted Maduro out"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1agbrixi lg8ac51 lg8ac50 xkp0cg1\">The fallout from the US capture and extradition of Nicol\u00e1s Maduro is radiating around the world.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1agbrixi lg8ac51 lg8ac50 xkp0cg1\">In a speech at Venezuela\u2019s legislative palace, Maduro\u2019s son,Venezuelan congressman Nicol\u00e1s Maduro Guerra, condemned the capture.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1agbrixi lg8ac51 lg8ac50 xkp0cg1\">\u201cIf we normalize the kidnapping of a head of state, no country is safe,\u201d Maduro Guerra said. \u201cToday, it\u2019s Venezuela. Tomorrow, it could be any nation that refuses to submit.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1agbrixi lg8ac51 lg8ac50 xkp0cg1\">At the request of Colombia, the UN Security Council met to discuss whether President Donald Trump\u2019s actions were legal.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1agbrixi lg8ac51 lg8ac50 xkp0cg1\">Colombia\u2019s leader was also threatened by Trump: \u201cColombia is very sick too,\u201d he told reporters aboard Air Force One. \u201cRun by a sick man who likes making cocaine and selling it to the United States. And he\u2019s not going to be doing it very long, let me tell you.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1agbrixi lg8ac51 lg8ac50 xkp0cg1\">In the time since Maduro\u2019s capture early Saturday morning, Trump has also threatened Cuba, Greenland, Iran, and Mexico.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1agbrixi lg8ac51 lg8ac50 xkp0cg1\">Greg Grandin, a Pulitzer Prize-winning historian at Yale University and the author of the 2025 book <a href=\"https:\/\/www.penguinrandomhouse.com\/books\/747326\/america-america-by-greg-grandin\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">America, America<\/a>, told Today, Explained host Noel King this fits into a long pattern of US behavior.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1agbrixi lg8ac51 lg8ac50 xkp0cg1\">\u201cThere is no country in which the United States hasn\u2019t intervened in South America, in Central America,\u201d Grandin told King. \u201cBy some counts between 1898 and 1992, the United States successfully was involved in over 40 regime changes.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1agbrixi lg8ac51 lg8ac50 xkp0cg1\">Below is an excerpt of their conversation, edited for length and clarity. There\u2019s much more in the full podcast, so listen to Today, Explained wherever you get podcasts, including <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/today-explained\/id1346207297\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Apple Podcasts<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.pandora.com\/podcast\/today-explained\/PC:140\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Pandora<\/a>, and <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/3pXx5SXzXwJxnf4A5pWN2A\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Spotify<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1agbrixi lg8ac51 lg8ac50 xkp0cg1\">As you watch this news unfold over the weekend, which of those examples from the past felt the most analogous? Where did you say, we\u2019re just doing this again?<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1agbrixi lg8ac51 lg8ac50 xkp0cg1\">You see elements of different interventions. Certainly the invasion of Panama is one that comes up immediately: The United States sent Marines into Panama to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.axios.com\/2026\/01\/03\/trump-venezuela-maduro-panama-noriega\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">capture Manuel Noriega<\/a> who, in the 1980s during the late Cold War, was a CIA asset. Problem was also that he was deeply involved with a lot of drug running, as are a number of US allies during this period.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1agbrixi lg8ac51 lg8ac50 xkp0cg1\">It was important for a number of reasons. One, it was a showcase of Colin Powell\u2019s exit strategy doctrine that you had to have a clear idea of what you were going in for and what you were getting out for. And also it was the first that eventually was understood as an intervention to install democracy, to defend democracy, as opposed to national security or anti-communism.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1agbrixi lg8ac51 lg8ac50 xkp0cg1\">And it was a unilateral intervention. Everybody, every country in the OAS, the Organization of American States, was opposed to it. The United Nations was opposed to it. And so many observers see this as a kind of turning point leading to Iraq in 2003, in the sense that it was the beginning of the United States acting unilaterally or outside the channels of the United Nations or the Organization of American States.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1agbrixi lg8ac51 lg8ac50 xkp0cg1\">You know, I\u2019m old enough to remember Iraq. What I don\u2019t remember is the United States, its leadership being so explicit about the oil. This [past] weekend, President Trump came out and he said, we want the oil. That\u2019s why we did this. Did that surprise you?<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1agbrixi lg8ac51 lg8ac50 xkp0cg1\">No. And I don\u2019t think \u2014 I\u2019m not one of these scholars who think that it\u2019s all about the oil. Obviously oil is important. Oil plays a factor. But there\u2019s lots of ways of getting oil, right?<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1agbrixi lg8ac51 lg8ac50 xkp0cg1\">And the Trump administration could have negotiated with Maduro, as elements within the administration wanted to do. I think Trump\u2019s talking about oil was kind of a way of providing [a] fig leaf for his America First base.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1agbrixi lg8ac51 lg8ac50 xkp0cg1\">A lot of those nationalists, they don\u2019t want to do regime change. They don\u2019t want to rebuild world economies and have the United States superintend the global economy. But when you put it in tough guy terms, and when you put it in the terms of plunder and \u201cwe\u2019re going to take the oil,\u201d tou know, it resonates with certain sectors of America First nationalism and aggrieved nationalism.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup _1iohv3z2 xkp0cg9\">\u201cYou do not have to carry water for Nicol\u00e1s Maduro; you do not have to support or defend Nicol\u00e1s Maduro in any way to hold on to the ideal of national sovereignty.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1agbrixi lg8ac51 lg8ac50 xkp0cg1\">So I\u2019m not saying oil wasn\u2019t important, but I\u2019m saying Trump\u2019s move from immigration to drugs and then to oil was really just a kind of trying out different ways of justifying what they wanted to do. And it goes back to this idea of the Monroe Doctrine \u2014 that the United States will police the hemisphere.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1agbrixi lg8ac51 lg8ac50 xkp0cg1\">Let me ask you about an argument that I saw circulating this weekend. Nicol\u00e1s Maduro was in power in Venezuela for more than 10 years. During this time, as you know, the economy craters. Eight million people flee. They flee repression. They flee censorship, fake elections, people being disappeared into prisons and tortured. What do you say to the argument that this was just the right thing for the United States of America to do?<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1agbrixi lg8ac51 lg8ac50 xkp0cg1\">You do not have to carry water for Nicol\u00e1s Maduro; you do not have to support or defend Nicol\u00e1s Maduro in any way to hold on to the ideal of national sovereignty. There is a system of international law which recognizes the sovereignty of nations \u2014 the absolute sovereignty of nations. It shouldn\u2019t be left to the judgment of one nation.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1agbrixi lg8ac51 lg8ac50 xkp0cg1\">International law is something that is always being destroyed. It\u2019s a phrase that people use: \u201cIt weakens international law.\u201d International law is always being weakened. But this certainly is a major step in that direction.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1agbrixi lg8ac51 lg8ac50 xkp0cg1\">The idea that the United States can claim for itself the sole jurisdiction and power to decide what country\u2019s sovereignty is legitimate, then to go a step further and then to kind of cosplay colonial plundering and say we\u2019re doing it because of the oil. We\u2019re not doing it because of democracy. We\u2019re not doing it because we care about human rights. We\u2019re doing it because we want to get the oil. I mean, I think that\u2019s what Trump brings to the table. He pulls out some of the implicit or repressed premises of the power dynamics of the international order and just says them out loud.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1agbrixi lg8ac51 lg8ac50 xkp0cg1\">A couple hours after this news broke on Saturday, I got a text from a Cuban American friend and the text just said, \u201cCuba next.\u201d And I watched the president\u2019s press conference and heard Marco Rubio speak, and a lot of people started saying that day, \u201cCuba next.\u201d What do you think is coming next?<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1agbrixi lg8ac51 lg8ac50 xkp0cg1\">I do think the long game ultimately goes beyond Cuba, I think Cuba may be next. But what we see in the Trump administration is an attempt to bring Latin America to heel, not just Cuba, not just Venezuela, not just Nicaragua. but also what we might call these social democratic regimes: The Workers\u2019 Party governed by Lula in Brazil and Claudia Sheinbaum in Mexico.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1agbrixi lg8ac51 lg8ac50 xkp0cg1\">These represent not so much confrontational challenges to the United States, but a kind of intolerable independence and autonomy. A country like Brazil is insisting on doing business with China, for instance, and finding ways to weaken US economic influence so it could diversify its trading partners. These are totally legitimate actions, but if we envision Latin America, as a place that Trump wants to show dominance, then they\u2019re intolerable.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1agbrixi lg8ac51 lg8ac50 xkp0cg1\">What it really is is about demonstrations of power and will. You know, Hegseth said the other day that nothing can prevent us from doing what we want in Latin America. And Trump said, effectively, the same thing. This is really about bringing Latin America \u2014 all of Latin America \u2014 to heel and bringing Trump allies to power. Latin America really is on a knife\u2019s edge.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"The fallout from the US capture and extradition of Nicol\u00e1s Maduro is radiating around the world. 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