{"id":232590,"date":"2026-01-11T12:45:07","date_gmt":"2026-01-11T12:45:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/il\/232590\/"},"modified":"2026-01-11T12:45:07","modified_gmt":"2026-01-11T12:45:07","slug":"are-the-beatles-too-big-to-fade-into-obscurity-the-irish-times","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/il\/232590\/","title":{"rendered":"Are The Beatles too big to fade into obscurity? \u2013 The Irish Times"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">So we begin 2026 wondering if <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/the-beatles\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/the-beatles\/\">The Beatles<\/a> may soon vanish from public consciousness. It seems unlikely. But even <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/paul-mccartney\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/paul-mccartney\/\">Paul McCartney<\/a> once admitted the possibility of the band having a mayfly existence.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cI couldn\u2019t care less, really, if we flopped tomorrow,\u201d he told David Frost way back in 1964. \u201cIt\u2019d be sad, you know. But it wouldn\u2019t really worry me.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">This then seemed a realistic prospect. The \u201crespectable\u201d media fully expected The Beatles to pass from memory as quickly as the trad-jazz boom that preceded their rise. Shortly before McCartney appeared on Frost\u2019s show, Newsweek magazine published a famously premature obituary. \u201cA preposterous farrago of Valentine-card romantic sentiments,\u201d <a href=\"https:\/\/www.newsweek.com\/beatles-suck-yeah-we-said-227748\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.newsweek.com\/beatles-suck-yeah-we-said-227748\">the weekly bellowed<\/a>. \u201cThe odds are they will fade away, as most adults confidently predict.\u201d <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">That didn\u2019t happen. The group prospered through the 1960s and, following their dissolution, in 1970, have continued to hold a grip on public consciousness.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Ian Leslie\u2019s lovely <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/culture\/music\/2025\/06\/22\/the-bond-between-john-lennon-and-paul-mccartney-for-sure-they-loved-each-other-they-found-a-way-to-share-that-love-with-the-world\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/culture\/music\/2025\/06\/22\/the-bond-between-john-lennon-and-paul-mccartney-for-sure-they-loved-each-other-they-found-a-way-to-share-that-love-with-the-world\/\">John &amp; Paul: A Love Story in Songs<\/a>, a study of the relationship between (obviously) <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/john-lennon\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/john-lennon\/\">John Lennon<\/a> and McCartney, received breathless reviews last year. Conan O\u2019Brien recently appeared on the unavoidable Rest Is History podcast to eulogise his favourite band. Most ambitiously, Sam Mendes is preparing a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/culture\/film\/2025\/10\/09\/saoirse-ronan-and-paul-mescal-to-reportedly-play-linda-and-paul-mccartney-in-beatles-biopic\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/culture\/film\/2025\/10\/09\/saoirse-ronan-and-paul-mescal-to-reportedly-play-linda-and-paul-mccartney-in-beatles-biopic\/\">tetralogy of films<\/a>, each focusing on an individual Beatle. They will resonate forever, right?<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph b-it-article-body__interstitial-link\">[\u00a0<a aria-label=\"Open related story\" class=\"c-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/culture\/music\/2025\/06\/22\/the-bond-between-john-lennon-and-paul-mccartney-for-sure-they-loved-each-other-they-found-a-way-to-share-that-love-with-the-world\/\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">The bond between John Lennon and Paul McCartney: \u2018For sure they loved each other&#8230; they found a way to share that love with the world\u2019Opens in new window<\/a>\u00a0]<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Maybe not. Sean Ono Lennon, son of Lennon and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/yoko-ono\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/yoko-ono\/\">Yoko Ono<\/a>, triggered the debate in a recent interview with CBS News. \u201cI\u2019m just doing my best to help make sure that the younger generation doesn\u2019t forget about the Beatles,\u201d he said of efforts to keep the music alive.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cDo you think that\u2019s even possible?\u201d Anthony Mason, a CBS broadcaster, replied.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cTo forget about it? I do, actually,\u201d Lennon said. \u201cAnd I never did before.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">It is worth noting that The Beatles\u2019 divinity remained, if anything, even more unquestioned in the United States than it did in their home country. Malcolm McLaren\u2019s disingenuous claim that Glen Matlock, original bass player of the Sex Pistols, had to leave the band because he \u201cliked The Beatles\u201d didn\u2019t raise many laughs in the rock clubs of West Hollywood. Mason does not question whether The Beatles are likely to fade from view; he questions if such a thing is \u201ceven possible\u201d. As if Lennon jnr had argued that the moon might spontaneously abandon Earth orbit.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">The interview, conducted just before Christmas, generated a rustle of discourse, including a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.wsj.com\/opinion\/free-expression\/could-the-beatles-be-forgotten-a3823148\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.wsj.com\/opinion\/free-expression\/could-the-beatles-be-forgotten-a3823148\">fretful column<\/a> in the Wall Street Journal from Matthew Continetti. \u201cTroubling news from Strawberry Fields,\u201d he wrote. \u201cSean Ono Lennon suggested his father\u2019s music might fade from memory.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">Why would this be so unlikely? Is it because they were so good? Is it because they were so popular? Many are the celebrated artistic entities that faded from consciousness as the decades advanced. Leaving aside aesthetic arguments (which must be subjective), the case is more that, if The Beatles were going to vanish, then they would surely have done so by now. Sixty years of popularity is maybe enough to guarantee another 100.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cWho now listens to the Glenn Miller Orchestra, for example?\u201d Continetti, a millennial Beatles fan, ponders. \u201cWhich DJ spins Bing Crosby?\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">This strikes me as the wrong question. Better to ask how many youngish people in the 1960s still listened to music that emerged in the 1910s and 1920s. To Al Jolson? To Fanny Brice? How many then dressed in celluloid collars and flapper dresses? Not many.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">We are now at the same remove from the emergent Beatles, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/the-rolling-stones\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/the-rolling-stones\/\">Rolling Stones<\/a>, Kinks and Who as the 1960s generation was from those already dusty turn-of-the century figures. Not everybody under 30 could name a track from Revolver. Quite a few could not pick <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/keith-richards\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/keith-richards\/\">Keith Richards<\/a> out of a line-up. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">But what, say, Geese, the most lauded rock group of 2025, were doing on their fine, angular album Getting Killed is unmistakably in the same ballpark as the more awkward corners of The Beatles\u2019 White Album. The Brooklyn band wear jeans and T-shirts. They have shaggy haircuts. Nobody would remark on their oddness if they wandered across the Let It Be sessions disinterred in Peter Jackson\u2019s mammoth Get Back documentary.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">My thesis is that, at the centre of the 1960s, some quality emerged in popular culture that, for all the intervening twists and turns, has never entirely gone away. If The Beatles fade into the mists then so does everything else from that decade\u2019s creative nebula.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cDo you still think people will still be listening to The Beatles in 500 years?\u201d Tom Holland asked <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/conan-o-brien\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/tags\/conan-o-brien\/\">Conan O\u2019Brien<\/a> on The Rest Is History.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">\u201cYeah. I do,\u201d he replied. \u201cThat is with the caveat: if we are all still here.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph paywall \">That may be stretching it. But they should certainly manage another 50. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"So we begin 2026 wondering if The Beatles may soon vanish from public consciousness. It seems unlikely. 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