{"id":396807,"date":"2026-04-17T10:05:13","date_gmt":"2026-04-17T10:05:13","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/il\/396807\/"},"modified":"2026-04-17T10:05:13","modified_gmt":"2026-04-17T10:05:13","slug":"popesplaining-vance-out-of-depth-in-row-over-whether-iran-is-a-just-war-christianity","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/il\/396807\/","title":{"rendered":"\u2018Popesplaining\u2019 Vance out of depth in row over whether Iran is a just war | Christianity"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">The contrast in experience between the two men disagreeing over war and theology was striking.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">On the one side was <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/world\/pope-leo-xiv\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" data-component=\"auto-linked-tag\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Pope Leo XIV<\/a>, the first North American to head the Catholic church and the first cleric from the Augustinian order, who this week visited the modern Algerian city where Saint Augustine once lived. For Leo, who wrote his doctoral thesis on Augustine\u2019s ideas, it was the culmination of a lifelong intellectual interest.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">On the other, the US vice-president, JD Vance, a very recent adult convert to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/world\/catholicism\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" data-component=\"auto-linked-tag\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Catholicism<\/a> with no academic background in the history of the church\u2019s thinking.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">At the heart of their disagreement: how Augustine, the fourth-century thinker, framed the idea of a \u201cjust war\u201d after centuries in which the early Christian tradition had rejected war and violence, even in self-defence. It is one of the most persistently important ideas in western thinking. Every major philosopher, jurist and theologian on the subject has weighed in on it over the centuries.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">The dispute is one strand of the intense controversy caused by the Trump administration\u2019s efforts to imbue the US war against Iran with an incoherent Christian militancy.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">At its most bizarre, the US president <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/us-news\/2026\/apr\/13\/trump-ai-image-christ-like-figure-backlash\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">posted an image of himself<\/a> on social media as a Christ-like figure healing the sick under flying jets and armed supernatural beings.<\/p>\n<p>An AI-generated image of Trump as a Christ-like figure posted on 12 April on Truth Social. It was later deleted. Photograph: @realDonaldTrump\/Reuters<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">The US defence secretary, Pete Hegseth, has meanwhile conducted himself like a modern crusader, claiming the mantle of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/us-news\/2026\/mar\/26\/hegseth-prayer-violence-pentagon\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">a righteous violence<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">In a series of interventions last month, Leo said <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/world\/2026\/mar\/29\/pope-rebuke-trump-leaders-with-hands-full-of-blood\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Christ\u2019s teaching rejected war<\/a> and that moreover, he \u201cdoes not listen to the prayers of those who wage war, but rejects them\u201d.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">In recent weeks his discourse has became more pointed. Trump\u2019s threat on 7 April that \u201ca whole civilisation will die tonight\u201d unless Iran made a deal with the US was <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/world\/2026\/apr\/10\/pope-leo-criticism-iran-war\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">\u201ctruly unacceptable\u201d<\/a>, he said, adding that such attacks would violate international law.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Vance delivered his reply at an event for the conservative group Turning Point USA at the University of Georgia on 14 April. \u201cWhen the pope says that God is never on the side of people who wield the sword, there is more than a 1,000-year tradition of just-war theory,\u201d Vance said. \u201cHow do you say that God is never on the side of those who wield the sword?\u201d he asked, citing the example of US troops that had liberated France from the Nazis and freed prisoners from the Holocaust camps.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">\u201cI think it\u2019s very, very important for the pope to be careful when he talks about matters of theology,\u201d Vance said. \u201cIf you\u2019re going to opine on matters of theology, you\u2019ve got to be careful.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/us-news\/2026\/apr\/14\/jd-vance-defends-trump-pope-leo-spat\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Vance\u2019s attack<\/a> drew accusations on social media that he was \u201cpopesplaining\u201d theology to the pontiff.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Augustine himself had argued that a just war was the business of the state. It could be justified if it was fought with the \u201cright intention\u201d and in pursuit of restoring peace.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">The leader who waged war should be like a Christian judge; the innocent should be protected; actions motivated by revenge, wrath or greed invalidated any claim to justice. The tests set by Augustine and the thinkers that followed remain the guiding principles of conflict law.<\/p>\n<p>Saint Augustine depicted in a 17th century painting by Philippe de Champaigne. Photograph: Los Angeles County Museum of Art<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">In an interview with the Catholic Standard in March, Cardinal Robert McElroy of Washington DC said the US and Israeli attack on Iran had failed the just-war criteria. \u201cYou cannot satisfy the just war tradition\u2019s criterion of right intention if you do not have a clear intention,\u201d the cardinal said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Then on Wednesday, Bishop James Massa, the chair of the US Conference of Catholic Bishops\u2019 committee on doctrine, intervened on behalf of the Catholic bishops in the US to make clear that Leo\u2019s comments were not a question of the pope\u2019s \u201copinion\u201d but Catholic teaching contained in the catechism, the collected doctrine of the church.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">\u201cFor over 1,000 years, the Catholic church has taught just-war theory, and it is that long tradition the Holy Father carefully references in his comments on war,\u201d Massa said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">\u201cA constant tenet of that 1,000-year tradition is a nation can only legitimately take up the sword \u2018in self-defence, once all peace efforts have failed\u2019. That is, to be a just war it must be a defence against another who actively wages war, which is what the Holy Father actually said: \u2018He does not listen to the prayers of those who wage war.\u2019\u201d<\/p>\n<p>JD Vance said: \u2018I think it\u2019s very, very important for the pope to be careful when he talks about matters of theology.\u2019 Photograph: Gage Skidmore\/Zuma Press Wire\/Shutterstock<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">While many have been offended both by Trump\u2019s posting of himself as Jesus and the attacks on the pope, inevitably, the row has drawn in Trump\u2019s most reliable defenders, including the House speaker, Mike Johnson, who identifies as a Southern Baptist and appears as foggy as Vance about the point Leo was making.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">\u201cIf you wade into political waters, you should expect some political response,\u201d said Johnson.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Others, such as the conservative Catholic New York Times columnist Ross Douthat, have found themselves straddling the fence, at once complaining that the church can seem hostile to conservatives, while conceding that the Trump administration\u2019s justifications for the war against Iran are ever changing and sometimes evaporating.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">\u201cIs the war just or is it not?\u201d asks Douthat, offering his own arguments about why it might be just. \u201cThe administration simply has not made a coherent and consistent case for the justice of the conflict.\u201d<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"The contrast in experience between the two men disagreeing over war and theology was striking. 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