{"id":511874,"date":"2026-06-26T09:46:09","date_gmt":"2026-06-26T09:46:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/il\/511874\/"},"modified":"2026-06-26T09:46:09","modified_gmt":"2026-06-26T09:46:09","slug":"the-scoop-with-jacqueline-kavanagh-on-the-age-of-alternative-influence","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/il\/511874\/","title":{"rendered":"The Scoop with Jacqueline Kavanagh: On the Age of Alternative Influence"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>We landed on building a roster around individuals we considered \u201calternatively influential\u201d. And that, for us, means not people who usually make short-form content, doing one-off partnerships. We\u2019re looking for people who have grown an audience that\u2019s incredibly loyal to them. And back to the point on IP, who are creating something tangible for the long haul.<\/p>\n<p>Who else is on your roster?<\/p>\n<p>We have Sari Azout, founder of knowledge management app Sublime; Mindy Seu, artist, academic and the author of A Sexual History of the Internet, who is currently touring her performance across Europe; Kristoffer Tjalve, the founder of Naive Weekly, Tiny Awards and Internet Phonebook; Seb Emina, founder of Read Me; Kim L\u00ea Boutin, the founder of New Ways of Seeing; Lucy Kumara Moore, the founder of The Sensual World; Severin Matusek, founder of co\u2013matter; Kat Chan, founder of Full Serving; James Davis, founder of Drawn Distant; Jaime Perlman, founder of More or Less; and Daniel Yaw Miller, founder of SportsVerse.<\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s a mini scoop for Vogue Business: Daniel, who\u2019s giving the closing address at the inaugural Lions Sports event, has announced the development of a new sports talk show for 2027. Details to come soon.<\/p>\n<p>So how do you define \u2018alternative influence\u2019?<\/p>\n<p>I think the concept of being alternatively influential really hit something in the zeitgeist. Still, it\u2019s not an easy question to answer because it takes so many different shapes for so many people. It can be somebody who\u2019s able to convene a gathering, somebody who is building a product that people are obsessed with, and who is seen as having true expertise, a true specialism. We\u2019re not necessarily looking for people who identify as being an influencer or a creator in traditional terms.<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s more people who are like, \u201cThis is something else that I do.\u201d And for them to want to work with a brand, they have to really feel that the brand understands the world that they\u2019re building.<\/p>\n<p>You\u2019re hosting a dinner at Cannes this week about the post-follower era. How do you expect that to be received?<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s up for debate. We want people to think about, \u201cWhat does it mean to truly own an audience in this day and age?\u201d How do we define the concept of influence and your relationship with your audience if it\u2019s splintered into multiple places?<\/p>\n<p>What\u2019s the answer to that?<\/p>\n<p>Where we see huge opportunity is in creators who can bring people together in real life. I think that is incontestable, no matter how big \u2014 and in many cases, it\u2019s really actually how small that audience may be. We\u2019re seeing people creating gatherings where there\u2019s no content, but it\u2019s just being there that\u2019s important. So I think the real world for us is where we see a lot of opportunity.<\/p>\n<p>How will your platform measure success, if not via engagement?<\/p>\n<p>Measurement is a really important part of what we\u2019re working on. We call it lateral influence, and it looks at depth and how influence doesn\u2019t necessarily travel upward at scale but instead spreads sideways into taste communities. So we look at a central individual \u2014 so Mindy Seu, for example, she\u2019s an academic at UCLA, and we map what we call her \u201csphere of influence\u201d. So it\u2019s less about how many people you\u2019re reaching, but who are the individuals, which institutions follow her, which communities follow her. And that\u2019s how we track the concept.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"We landed on building a roster around individuals we considered \u201calternatively influential\u201d. 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