{"id":539629,"date":"2026-07-13T18:09:09","date_gmt":"2026-07-13T18:09:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/il\/539629\/"},"modified":"2026-07-13T18:09:09","modified_gmt":"2026-07-13T18:09:09","slug":"knocking-you-out-was-a-huge-joy-reliving-the-dramas-of-england-v-argentina-in-1998-and-2002-world-cup-2026","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/il\/539629\/","title":{"rendered":"\u2018Knocking you out was a huge joy\u2019: reliving the dramas of England v Argentina in 1998 and 2002 | World Cup 2026"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"dcr-1s160rg\">Amid the acrimony, the wars, the deep history going back to the British invasions of 1806 and 1807, the hand of God and the boot of Beckham, there is also an acknowledgment from those closest to the struggle that England and Argentina make perfect footballing sparring partners.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-1s160rg\">Described as the only trans-continental derby, a rivalry hewn in politics and history as well as football folklore, most Argentinian footballers\u2019 eyes light up when talk turns to England.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-1s160rg\">Take <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/football\/diego-simeone\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" data-component=\"auto-linked-tag\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Diego Simeone<\/a>, now the belligerent Atl\u00e9tico Madrid coach but once the arch nemesis of David Beckham, the man who feigned collapsing to the ground when Beckham\u2019s foolish flick caught him at the 1998 World Cup, thereby altering the trajectory of that game through Beckham\u2019s red card.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-1s160rg\">\u201cI love playing against the English,\u201d Simeone told me in 2002 when he and his then-wife, Carolina, hosted me at their sumptuous Rome villa for an interview prior to that year\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/football\/world-cup-football\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" data-component=\"auto-linked-tag\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">World Cup<\/a> clash between the two nations. \u201cEnglish football is always more open, aggressive and passionate. Whether you win or lose against English teams, you always feel it\u2019s been a proper contest. The first time I played against them was at Wembley in 1991 \u2026 \u201d At this point, Simeone rolled up his trouser leg and pointed to a scar on his shin. \u201cI\u2019ve still got a souvenir from Stuart Pearce from that day. Great game.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Diego Simeone on playing England: \u2018Whether you win or lose against English teams, you always feel it\u2019s been a proper contest.\u2019 Photograph: Popperfoto\/Getty Images<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-1s160rg\">As for the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/football\/2020\/may\/25\/world-cup-questions-why-did-england-not-beat-argentina-1998\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">famous clash in the last 16 in 1998<\/a>, it was the first World Cup game since Diego Maradona\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/football\/blog\/2014\/apr\/08\/world-cup-moments-maradona-hand-god\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">hand of God in 1986<\/a> and again England were hoodwinked by Argentinian cunning, specifically Simeone\u2019s. He, though, remembered it principally as one of the great World Cup contests.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-1s160rg\">\u201cIt is the best international match I\u2019ve played in,\u201d said Simeone. \u201cThey [England] were incredible that night. Alan Shearer and Paul Ince were extraordinary. At times it seemed Shearer was fighting us on his own. You have to remember they played for 70 minutes with 10 men.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-1s160rg\">Simeone delivered the above line as though oblivious to the fact he was the main protagonist in that event. If not exactly repentant, he was a mite bashful about the world of pain he caused Beckham for his 47th-minute sending off. \u201cTen heroic Lions, one stupid boy\u201d was the Mirror\u2019s headline and an effigy of Beckham was hung from a noose outside a London pub.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-1s160rg\">\u201cThat\u2019s way over the top,\u201d said Simeone when I relayed the story. \u201cIt\u2019s not that it frightens me but it\u2019s a wakeup call for everyone, including journalists. You have to be careful.<\/p>\n<p>Diego Simeone and David Beckham together at Argentina\u2019s match against Cape Verde in Miami. Photograph: DavidBeckham\/Instagram<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-1s160rg\">\u201cIt was not just my fault. There\u2019s a ref involved, too. I guess David had a torrid few months after that. The press were putting all the blame on him. I don\u2019t think that was at all fair. He just made a mistake, an instinctive reaction.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-1s160rg\">It should be said Simeone and Beckham were pictured together in Miami for <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/football\/2026\/jul\/04\/argentina-cape-verde-world-cup-2026-last-32-match-report\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Argentina\u2019s game against Cape Verde<\/a>. \u201cBumped into an old friend\u201d wrote Beckham on Instagram.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-1s160rg\">While Argentina will always have Maradona\u2019s second goal from 1986, a goal of considerably more consequence and frequently adjudged the best ever, England do at least have Michael Owen\u2019s extraordinary run from the halfway line and finish to make it 2-1 in 1998.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-1s160rg\">Owen was only 18 at the time and in 2018 he met up with Glenn Hoddle, England manager that day, on the game\u2019s 20th anniversary. \u201cThere was no fear in him whatsoever,\u201d Hoddle told me. \u201cWhen Michael turns, runs and beats the first couple of players, I remember thinking: \u2018Bloody hell! He\u2019s clean through!\u2019 But [Argentine defender] Roberto Ayala was so deep, he was almost on the D of the penalty area and I hadn\u2019t seen him. But as soon as Ayala squared up to him, it was clear he didn\u2019t have a clue how much pace Michael had.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-1s160rg\">Owen concurred. \u201cBecks [Beckham] played the initial ball to me and one of their midfielders was only a couple of yards away from me. I just thought that, if I took a good touch, I could run past him and start an attack. It was only after the first touch, which I took in my stride, that I looked up and thought: \u2018Oh my God \u2013 there\u2019s a goal on here!\u2019<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-1s160rg\">\u201cAs soon as I saw Ayala, who was isolated deeper, it was a case of making the best chance to shoot. You don\u2019t want to go too close to him and get tackled. You don\u2019t want to push it too flat and make the angle too hard. Then it was just about the finish.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>An 18-year-old Michael Owen scores that goal against Argentina in 1998. Photograph: Ted Blackbrow\/Daily Mail\/Shutterstock<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-1s160rg\">Simeone as much as admitted that Argentina hadn\u2019t done their homework on Owen, who had only made his England debut that year. \u201cHe was a shock to us,\u201d he said. \u201cHe was only 18 and we hadn\u2019t seen him play. It was a pleasant surprise for the fans [but] not for us.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-1s160rg\">As for the card shown by the Danish referee Kim Milton Nielsen, though it was hard to argue with in theory, the exaggeration of the impact made it hard to take. Hoddle recalled: \u201cI thought: \u2018Oh, here comes the yellow\u2019, but suddenly the red came out. And I\u2019m thinking: \u2018What on earth is going on here?\u2019 It was never in a million years a sending-off. Becks knows he did the wrong thing and that at that level they\u2019ll make it into something else, which they did. But you need strong refereeing.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-1s160rg\">In a separate interview later, Simeone conceded: \u201cSometimes you have to be a bit cunning and sometimes you play the fool. I happened to be the intelligent one. Beckham did nothing to me.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-1s160rg\">The drama continued with Sol Campbell heading home what looked to be an 81st-minute winner only for it to be disallowed for a Shearer challenge. The England team were celebrating in the corner while Argentina played on, attacking David Seaman\u2019s goal.<\/p>\n<p><a data-ignore=\"global-link-styling\" href=\"#EmailSignup-skip-link-21\" class=\"dcr-76akua\">skip past newsletter promotion<\/a>Free newsletter | Every weekday<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-vf9hps\">Sign up to Football Daily<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-1r7my33\">Kick off your evenings with the Guardian&#8217;s take on the world of football<\/p>\n<p><img src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/il\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/1782311733_174_500.jpg\" alt=\"\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"dcr-xiq31o\"\/><\/p>\n<p id=\"EmailSignup-skip-link-21\" tabindex=\"0\" aria-label=\"after newsletter promotion\" role=\"note\" class=\"dcr-76akua\">after newsletter promotion<\/p>\n<p>Sol Campbell heads what he thinks is the winner, only to be denied for an elbow by Alan Shearer. Photograph: Stu Forster\/ALLSPORT<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-1s160rg\">\u201cIt\u2019s almost like I\u2019m living it again. It\u2019s so deep,\u201d said Hoddle, recalling the moment 20 year later. \u201cIt scarred me. I\u2019m looking down into the corner flag where Michael\u2019s on Sol\u2019s back. There\u2019s about five players celebrating. Suddenly I saw Ray Clemence, the goalkeeping coach. He looks back towards the pitch and says: \u2018What the fuck is going on?\u2019 My eyes go back to the pitch and they\u2019re attacking. It\u2019s like a nightmare.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-1s160rg\">Owen said: \u201cHow Argentina didn\u2019t score from that was amazing. I think it was 11 against four!\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-1s160rg\">The denouement came in a 4-3 defeat on penalties. It\u2019s fair to say the Argentinians embraced victory over the English. After the match, the respective team buses briefly drew up alongside each other outside the Saint-\u00c9tienne stadium. The Argentinian players leant into the euphoria of beating their old rival. \u201cYou could have been forgiven for mistaking them as fans,\u201d said John Gorman, Hoddle\u2019s assistant at the time. \u201cThey were jumping up and down like madmen.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-1s160rg\">Simeone didn\u2019t dispel the impression that this one meant more. \u201cKnocking out England, with all the history that goes with that, was a huge joy,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p>Michael Owen is fouled in the box by Mauricio Pochettino (left) in Japan in 2002.  Photograph: Ruben Sprich\/REUTERS<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-1s160rg\">There was <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/football\/2002\/jun\/07\/worldcupfootball2002.sport26\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">revenge of sorts in 2002<\/a> and an indication that England were now more streetwise in the fixture. England triumphed 1-0 in Sapporo, David Beckham scoring the penalty won by Michael Owen from a foul committed by an Argentinian defender barely anyone in England had heard of back then, Mauricio Pochettino. When quizzed about his challenge on Owen, Pochettino always smiles and good-naturedly lectures his English audience on its sense of fair play. \u201cFor sure it was a dive,\u201d Pochettino said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-1s160rg\">\u201cI could have stayed on my feet, the defender\u2019s caught me and I did have a decent gash down my shin from it \u2013 but I could have stayed up,\u201d conceded Owen.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-1s160rg\">Yet nothing quite encapsulated the duality that drives Argentinian football, the craft and the cunning, more than Maradona in 1986. Simeone, then a teenager, recalled watching the game with his dad.<\/p>\n<p>Redemption for David Beckham after scoring the penalty to beat Argentina in 2002. Photograph: Dan Chung\/The Guardian<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-1s160rg\">\u201cWhen Maradona scored the hand of God goal, my father shouted \u2018handball\u2019. I told my dad: \u2018No, it\u2019s a good goal.\u2019 I just didn\u2019t see it. Maradona was so quick. But the second goal proved he was the greatest player in the world.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-1s160rg\">The deep origins of that second goal were a subject Simeone was keen to expound upon at length. \u201cIn Argentina, when we played in the street as a kid we didn\u2019t call it football,\u201d he said. \u201cWe call it jugar a la pelota [playing with the ball]. It\u2019s prettier than football. It\u2019s about beating players, dribbling, showing off. Football is something more professional, more serious and disciplined. In Argentina, dribbling past three players is the ultimate.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-1s160rg\">And when Maradona scored the goal of the century against England? \u201cThat,\u201d said Simeone, \u201cwas jugar a la pelota.\u201d<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Amid the acrimony, the wars, the deep history going back to the British invasions of 1806 and 1807,&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":539630,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[9],"tags":[85,46,105],"class_list":["post-539629","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-sports","tag-il","tag-israel","tag-sports"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/il\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/539629","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/il\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/il\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/il\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/il\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=539629"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/il\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/539629\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/il\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/539630"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/il\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=539629"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/il\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=539629"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/il\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=539629"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}