{"id":875,"date":"2025-09-07T20:26:08","date_gmt":"2025-09-07T20:26:08","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/il\/875\/"},"modified":"2025-09-07T20:26:08","modified_gmt":"2025-09-07T20:26:08","slug":"openais-future-foretold-by-gary-marcus","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/il\/875\/","title":{"rendered":"OpenAI\u2019s future, foretold? &#8211; by Gary Marcus"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>As OpenAI would have it, interest in Generative AI is going to to continue to go up and up until they make so much revenue their annual revenue <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/List_of_largest_companies_by_revenue\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">exceeds the annual revenues of companies like Ford, BMW, and Bank of America<\/a>. On a path to make $13 billion last year, they are <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theinformation.com\/articles\/openai-says-business-will-burn-115-billion-2029?eu=Imno5Q9k0WnCTJwn_-xGNg&amp;utm_source=ti_app&amp;rc=dcf9pt\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">projecting $200 billion in revenue in 2030<\/a>, according to a September 5 story at The Information. <\/p>\n<p>Which they would need, because as the same story reports, training costs are immense.  On computing costs alone, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theinformation.com\/articles\/openai-says-business-will-burn-115-billion-2029?eu=Imno5Q9k0WnCTJwn_-xGNg&amp;utm_source=ti_app&amp;rc=dcf9pt\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">they are expecting to burn $150 billion between 2025 and 2030<\/a>.  They are burning money,  billions a month; per the Information\u2019s headline, \u201cOpenAI Says Its Business Will Burn $115 Billion Through 2029\u201d. And schoolchildren using ChatGPT to do their homework aren\u2019t enough to cover that. <\/p>\n<p>Needless to say, OpenAI can\u2019t make its ambitious revenue numbers \u2014 13x-ing current revenue in five years \u2014 unless revenue from paying big business customers keeps going up and up and up and up and up. <\/p>\n<p>The Information was nice enough to capture that all optimism in a chart:<\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/$s_!60mJ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd4598d3f-7e9b-4f73-bf41-a5cc5fedcd5f_1905x1010.png\" data-component-name=\"Image2ToDOM\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" class=\"image-link image2 is-viewable-img\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/il\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/https:\/\/substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com\/public\/images\/d4598d3f-7e9b-4f73-bf41-a5cc5fedcd5f_1905.jpeg\" width=\"1456\" height=\"772\" data-attrs=\"{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https:\/\/substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com\/public\/images\/d4598d3f-7e9b-4f73-bf41-a5cc5fedcd5f_1905x1010.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:772,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:309494,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image\/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:true,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https:\/\/garymarcus.substack.com\/i\/173025687?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd4598d3f-7e9b-4f73-bf41-a5cc5fedcd5f_1905x1010.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}\" alt=\"\"   fetchpriority=\"high\" class=\"sizing-normal\"\/><\/a>OpenAI\u2019s  revenue projectionss in one handy graph (left panel represents an earlier projection; the right panel represents the latest projections)<\/p>\n<p>Will revenue really continue to go up and up and up at the pace they project? <\/p>\n<p>Maybe yes, maybe no. Until recently things were looking rosy. <\/p>\n<p>But new Census Bureau data, captured in a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.apolloacademy.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/New090725-Chart.pdf?utm_medium=email&amp;utm_source=pardot&amp;utm_id=c482ab25841858c1d5d8468f32136182&amp;utm_campaign=EXT_Daily+Spark\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">graph that Apollo Academy just shared<\/a>, hints at a very different picture:<\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/$s_!t7ew!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F46297ad9-1245-45dc-8c85-725660d89908_2262x1282.jpeg\" data-component-name=\"Image2ToDOM\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" class=\"image-link image2 is-viewable-img\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/il\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/https:\/\/substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com\/public\/images\/46297ad9-1245-45dc-8c85-725660d89908_2262.jpeg\" width=\"1456\" height=\"825\" data-attrs=\"{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https:\/\/substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com\/public\/images\/46297ad9-1245-45dc-8c85-725660d89908_2262x1282.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:825,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:527989,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image\/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https:\/\/garymarcus.substack.com\/i\/173025687?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F46297ad9-1245-45dc-8c85-725660d89908_2262x1282.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}\" alt=\"\"   class=\"sizing-normal\"\/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Slok elaborates in his newsletter:<\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/$s_!Tsb3!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb01e66d3-731c-4cef-8f01-267ab8f1f7fe_1059x908.png\" data-component-name=\"Image2ToDOM\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" class=\"image-link image2 is-viewable-img\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/il\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/https:\/\/substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com\/public\/images\/b01e66d3-731c-4cef-8f01-267ab8f1f7fe_1059.png\" width=\"1059\" height=\"908\" data-attrs=\"{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https:\/\/substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com\/public\/images\/b01e66d3-731c-4cef-8f01-267ab8f1f7fe_1059x908.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:908,&quot;width&quot;:1059,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:110984,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image\/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https:\/\/garymarcus.substack.com\/i\/173025687?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb01e66d3-731c-4cef-8f01-267ab8f1f7fe_1059x908.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}\" alt=\"\"   loading=\"lazy\" class=\"sizing-normal\"\/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Is that decline among big companies over the last two months just a blip? Or could the big companies have finally lost patience? <\/p>\n<p>GenAI certainly sounds amazing \u2013  but it hasn\u2019t always worked well enough to justify the costs.  <\/p>\n<p>Disappointment would certainly fit with the recent MIT study showing much disappointment at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.investopedia.com\/terms\/r\/returnoninvestment.asp\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">ROI<\/a>. <\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/$s_!tvW-!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6fe86cfb-d0e5-42f9-bd67-e07919254fad_2263x912.png\" data-component-name=\"Image2ToDOM\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" class=\"image-link image2 is-viewable-img\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/il\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/https:\/\/substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com\/public\/images\/6fe86cfb-d0e5-42f9-bd67-e07919254fad_2263.jpeg\" width=\"2263\" height=\"912\" data-attrs=\"{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https:\/\/substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com\/public\/images\/6fe86cfb-d0e5-42f9-bd67-e07919254fad_2263x912.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:912,&quot;width&quot;:2263,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:1046914,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image\/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https:\/\/garymarcus.substack.com\/i\/173025687?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F72cf03a9-cdee-4f4f-923d-617fcfd43538_2388x986.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}\" alt=\"\"   loading=\"lazy\" class=\"sizing-normal\"\/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The underwhelming GPT-5 results can\u2019t help. <\/p>\n<p>If  things go up and up until they don\u2019t, OpenAI is toast. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"As OpenAI would have it, interest in Generative AI is going to to continue to go up and&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":876,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[20],"tags":[345,343,344,85,46,125],"class_list":["post-875","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-artificial-intelligence","tag-ai","tag-artificial-intelligence","tag-artificialintelligence","tag-il","tag-israel","tag-technology"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/il\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/875","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/il\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/il\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/il\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/il\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=875"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/il\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/875\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/il\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/876"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/il\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=875"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/il\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=875"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/il\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=875"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}