{"id":98372,"date":"2025-10-26T04:47:15","date_gmt":"2025-10-26T04:47:15","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/il\/98372\/"},"modified":"2025-10-26T04:47:15","modified_gmt":"2025-10-26T04:47:15","slug":"reddit-set-trap-for-perplexity-in-data-scraping-legal-fight","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/il\/98372\/","title":{"rendered":"Reddit Set Trap for Perplexity in Data Scraping Legal Fight"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Employees at Reddit knew something was wrong.<\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_self\" class=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/perplexity-makes-200-ai-browser-free-to-battle-ai-slop-2025-10\" data-track-click=\"{&quot;element_name&quot;:&quot;body_link&quot;,&quot;event&quot;:&quot;tout_click&quot;,&quot;index&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;,&quot;product_field&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;}\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">Perplexity<\/a> \u2014 the $20 billion artificial intelligence company that competes with OpenAI and Google \u2014 had agreed to follow Reddit&#8217;s instructions, blocking it from scraping content from the site, according to <a target=\"_self\" class=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/reddit-lawsuit-perplexity-ai-firms-data-scrapers-scraping-google-2025-10\" data-track-click=\"{&quot;element_name&quot;:&quot;body_link&quot;,&quot;event&quot;:&quot;tout_click&quot;,&quot;index&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;,&quot;product_field&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;}\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">a lawsuit Reddit filed Wednesday<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>But, the lawsuit said, Perplexity continued to cite Reddit in its AI-generated answers \u2014 more than ever. The <a target=\"_blank\" class=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.xfunnel.ai\/blog\/perplexity-reddit-rumor\" data-track-click=\"{&quot;click_type&quot;:&quot;other&quot;,&quot;element_name&quot;:&quot;body_link&quot;,&quot;event&quot;:&quot;outbound_click&quot;}\" rel=\" nofollow noopener\">CEO of another AI company even speculated<\/a> that Perplexity and Reddit secretly struck a content licensing deal.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;The increase was so dramatic that an outside observer hypothesized that the increase was due to Perplexity entering a licensing deal with Reddit and thereby obtaining full access to Reddit&#8217;s data,&#8221; Reddit&#8217;s lawsuit said.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;In truth, there is no license between Perplexity and Reddit,&#8221; the lawsuit said, adding that it was the result of &#8220;a scheme by Perplexity to obtain Reddit&#8217;s data through the circumvention of the technological measures protecting Reddit data.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>So Reddit set a trap. The company created a test post that could only be <a target=\"_self\" class=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/ai-killing-web-grand-bargain-2023-8\" data-track-click=\"{&quot;element_name&quot;:&quot;body_link&quot;,&quot;event&quot;:&quot;tout_click&quot;,&quot;index&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;,&quot;product_field&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;}\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">crawled by Google&#8217;s search engine<\/a>, according to the lawsuit. While Google has a content-licensing deal with Reddit, Perplexity does not.<\/p>\n<p>It was the digital equivalent of a &#8220;marked bill,&#8221; Reddit&#8217;s lawsuit said. According to the lawsuit, the only way Perplexity would be able to get the data in the test post is if it bypassed Reddit&#8217;s guardrails using Google&#8217;s search engine page results, or SERPS.<\/p>\n<p>If the content from the post was ingested by Perplexity through Google, Reddit would know, according to the lawsuit.<\/p>\n<p>A few hours after it set the trap, Reddit got its answer.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Within hours, queries to Perplexity&#8217;s &#8216;answer engine&#8217; produced the contents of that test post,&#8221; the lawsuit says. &#8220;The only way that Perplexity could have obtained that Reddit content and then used it in its &#8216;answer engine&#8217; is if it and\/or its Co-Defendants scraped Google SERPs for that Reddit content and Perplexity then quickly incorporated that data.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Reddit described the test in its lawsuit, filed Wednesday in Manhattan federal court, against Perplexity and three data-scraping companies: Oxylabs UAB, AWM Proxy, and SerpApi. Reddit alleged the data-scraping companies may have taken its posts without permission and sold them to Perplexity.<\/p>\n<p>                      Related stories<\/p>\n<p>                                <img decoding=\"async\" class=\"lazy-image \" viewbox=\"0 0 1 1\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/il\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/placeholder.png\" alt=\"\"\/><\/p>\n<p>                            Business Insider tells the innovative stories you want to know<\/p>\n<p>                                <img decoding=\"async\" class=\"lazy-image \" viewbox=\"0 0 1 1\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/il\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/placeholder.png\" alt=\"\"\/><\/p>\n<p>                            Business Insider tells the innovative stories you want to know<\/p>\n<p>Perplexity spokesperson Jesse Dwyer told Business Insider in response to the lawsuit that the company &#8220;will not tolerate threats against openness and the public interest.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Perplexity said in <a target=\"_blank\" class=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/perplexity_ai\/comments\/1odpofv\/our_response_to_reddits_lawsuit\/\" data-track-click=\"{&quot;click_type&quot;:&quot;other&quot;,&quot;element_name&quot;:&quot;body_link&quot;,&quot;event&quot;:&quot;outbound_click&quot;}\" rel=\" nofollow noopener\">a Reddit post<\/a> after the lawsuit was filed that it &#8220;does not train AI models on content.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>A representative for SerpApi said the company plans to &#8220;vigorously defend ourselves in court, while Oxylabs&#8217; chief governance and strategy officer, Denas Grybauskas, said the company was &#8220;shocked and disappointed.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Oxylabs has always been and will continue to be a pioneer and an industry leader in public data collection, and it will not hesitate to defend itself against these allegations,&#8221; Grybauskas said.<\/p>\n<p>AWMProxy, identified in Reddit&#8217;s lawsuit as a former Russian botnet, could not be reached for comment.<\/p>\n<p>Reddit&#8217;s trap resembles <a target=\"_self\" class=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/ai-data-trap-catches-perplexity-impersonating-google-cloudflare-2025-8\" data-track-click=\"{&quot;element_name&quot;:&quot;body_link&quot;,&quot;event&quot;:&quot;tout_click&quot;,&quot;index&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;,&quot;product_field&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;}\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">one set up by internet infrastructure company Cloudflare<\/a>. In an August blog post, the company said it set up web pages with code that instructed Perplexity not to crawl those sites&#8217; content. It found that Perplexity&#8217;s crawlers went to those websites anyway.<\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_self\" class=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/matthew-prince-search-engines-ai-cloudflare-google-2025-8\" data-track-click=\"{&quot;element_name&quot;:&quot;body_link&quot;,&quot;event&quot;:&quot;tout_click&quot;,&quot;index&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;,&quot;product_field&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;}\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">Cloudflare CEO Matthew Prince<\/a> compared Perplexity to &#8220;North Korean hackers&#8221; for the behavior. Reddit cited the characterization in its lawsuit.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Some supposedly &#8216;reputable&#8217; AI companies act more like North Korean hackers,&#8221; Matthew Prince wrote on X in August. &#8220;Time to name, shame, and hard block them.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Cloudflare did not respond to a request for comment.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Employees at Reddit knew something was wrong. 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