1:10 Do we need a law to protect future generations?

Gareth Hughes looks like his is probably in his 40s. He is wearing a suit jacket over a blue shirt. He is stood outside in front of a background of trees and bushes.

Gareth Hughes
Photo: Wellbeing Economy Alliance Aotearoa

Lots of policies and promises have been bandied around this campaign season – but there’s one idea that seems to have support right across the political spectrum.

And that is a future generations law – a legal requirement that Governments consider the impact of their decisions on future generations.

In a new poll by the Wellbeing Economy Alliance, more than 80% of Greens, ACT, NZ First, Labour and National voters backed the idea, with Te Pāti Māori voters the notable exception.

So what would a Future Generations Act actually look like, and how would it change the way governments make decisions?

To discuss Wellbeing Economy Alliance director Gareth Hughes chats to Jesse. 

1:20 What is ’30 by 30′ and what happens if we don’t do it?

This is a head and shoulders shot of Jonathan. He has glasses and a medium length beard. He is standing in front of a river.

Jonathan Tonkin
Photo: Supplied

COP 17 is about to wrap up in Armenia where the spotlight has been on our progress with ’30 by 30′ … that’s the collective goal to protect 30% of land and freshwater by 2030 in an attempt to halt and even reverse biodiversity loss.

We’re now at the half way point …and spoiler alert .. we’re not on track to make the goal. 

To talk about happens now Jesse is joined by Dr Jonathan Tonkin … a Quantitative Ecologist at the University of Canterbury.

 

1:30 The New Zealanders making sure music is human made

TeMatera Smith

Photo: TeMatera Smith

 Ai generated music is flooding streaming platforms everywhere .. but many music fans would have no idea of knowing if the content they’re listening to was made by AI

Last year the EU announced they were introducing rules to tag AI generated tracks … but there are currently no laws in place here 

A couple of local Kiwi music professionals have launched Original Machine … which checks submissions for Ai Authorship… and gives out badges once the work is identified as Human Made.

To tell us all about it Jesse is joined by Original Machine co-founder TeMatera Smith.

1:45 Stories from Our Changing World

Tara iti / New Zealand Fairy Tern

New Zealand’s rarest endemic breeding bird – tara iti / New Zealand fairy tern
Photo: Darren Markin

It’s time for Our Changing World – and this week we’re heading out in the field with producer Liz Garton – to learn more about tara-iti, the New Zealand fairy tern. 

The Kākāpō, as our kind of poster child for rare birds, has a population of more than 300 now, while the tara-iti population sits at fewer than 50 birds. 

But a lot of work is going into changing that!

2.10 Heading Off to Hawaii

Megan Singleton hits the road in Maui.

Megan Singleton hits the road in Maui.
Photo: Megan Singleton

Time for Heading Off, our weekly travel segment where you share your adventures .. and inspire others to do the same!

Today we’re heading off to Maui in Hawaii with travel writer Megan Singleton, who has just returned from the island and put together what she calls a perfect 10-hour day trip. 

2:20 Easy Eats: Asparagus, courgette, bacon and walnut galette

Two rustic Asparagus, courgetti, bacon and walnut galettes - one of them cut into wedges - on a baking paper-covered wooden board, garnished with rosemary sprigs.

Frozen pastry sheets make this recipe a little easier.
Photo: Kelly Gibney

Kelly Gibney is with Jesse to share a delicious recipe. This week is asparagus, courgette, bacon and walnut galette.

The link is HERE

2:30 Bookmarks with Liv Sisson

collage of Liv Sisson and her book

Photo: Nancy Zhou

Bookmarks is our chance to talk to interesting people about what interests them. Today we’re joined by author and nature writer Liv Sisson.

You’ll no doubt be familiar with her first book ‘Fungi of Aotearoa’, which was a bestseller and award winner, and it was shortlisted for an Ockham New Zealand Book Award.

Now she’s turned her attention from fungi to critters with her new field guide ‘Butterflies and Moths of Aotearoa’, which is out next week.

3:10 Music Critic: Mali Mali ‘Psychic Acorns’ 

Mali Mali (Ben Tolich)

Mali Mali (Ben Tolich)
Photo: supplied

Mathew Crawley joins Jesse to share what he’s been listening to. 

Today it’s a huge double-album by a local artist Mali Mali called – ‘Psychic Acorns’ 

3:35 The quirky content filling up your group chats

SANTA CLARA, CALIFORNIA - FEBRUARY 08: Jay-Z looks on prior to the start of Super Bowl LX between the Seattle Seahawks and the New England Patriots at Levi's Stadium on February 08, 2026 in Santa Clara, California.   Kevin C. Cox/Getty Images/AFP (Photo by Kevin C. Cox / GETTY IMAGES NORTH AMERICA / Getty Images via AFP)

Jay-Z at the Super Bowl LX between the Seattle Seahawks and the New England Patriots in February, 2026.
Photo: AFP / Kevin C. Cox

Let’s talk about what’s got your group chats lighting up now .. Jesse is joined by this weekend’s Saturday morning host Kate Rodger, Sunday’s culture 101 host Perlina Lau and Afternoons’ senior producer Olivia Wilson .. to talk about the stories that are perfect water cooler fodder.

This week they chat about Superbowl half time shows, Junior MasterChef and Meghan Markle, plus advice on how to respond to the “Gen Z stare.”

3:45 The pre-Panel: Your daily dose of stuff and nonsense

Jesse Mulligan and Wallace Chapman

Photo: Sophie Baird

Wallace Chapman and Jesse Mulligan star in the shortest show on radio, where they show they really can make something out of nothing, join them to be part of their delight, or to simply despair. Wallace will also preview what’s on The Panel tonight. 

Jesse Mulligan and Wallace Chapman

Photo: Sophie Baird