{"id":127124,"date":"2025-11-10T01:49:09","date_gmt":"2025-11-10T01:49:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/127124\/"},"modified":"2025-11-10T01:49:09","modified_gmt":"2025-11-10T01:49:09","slug":"countrys-biggest-property-investor-group-evicted-from-facebook","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/127124\/","title":{"rendered":"Country&#8217;s biggest property investor group evicted from Facebook"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/4L2QXF6_075_kokovlis_notitle211219_npuJ6_jpg\" width=\"1050\" height=\"700\" alt=\"In this photo illustration a Facebook logo seen displayed on a smartphone with Meta logos in the background in Athens, Greece on December 19, 2021.\"\/><\/p>\n<p class=\"photo-captioned__information\">\nProperty Investor Chat Group NZ administrators said they had no warning from Meta.<br \/>\nPhoto: NIKOLAS KOKOVLIS \/ AFP\n<\/p>\n<p>The country&#8217;s biggest property investor chat group has become another casualty of Facebook&#8217;s sweeping suspensions.<\/p>\n<p>Property Investor Chat Group NZ had 73,000 members when it was suspended last week.<\/p>\n<p>Its administrators said they had no warning.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;We are quite strict in regulating content to stay on topic,&#8221; one of them, Nick Gentle, said.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Avoid fights. Post approval to remove anything fishy, and members report anyone sharing dodgy links and those profiles get blocked, so I&#8217;ve no idea what rule we broke.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8216;Sometimes Facebook will say &#8216;we have removed content that went against our community guidelines&#8217; but you can never click in to see what it was to adjust your settings.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>He said they were having trouble reaching someone at Facebook to find out what to do next.<\/p>\n<p>If they could not save the page, they would have to start again, he said.<\/p>\n<p>Group founder Graeme Fowler said it seemed the decision was made by AI.<\/p>\n<p>Alex Sims, a University of Auckland professor in the department of commercial law, said people using tech platforms were generally at their mercy.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Lots of people and groups get removed from Facebook with no warning. One reason can be Meta&#8217;s use of AI, with no human in the loop reviewing the decision. [It] was a real issue earlier in the year, and the issue may still be occurring. There is an appeal process which should be initiated ASAP.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/4N87UJ1_copyright_image_203389\" width=\"576\" height=\"383\" alt=\"Auckland University professor Alex Sims says NZ faces the risk of being left behind.\"\/><\/p>\n<p class=\"photo-captioned__information\">\nAlex Sims.<br \/>\nPhoto: Supplied\n<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Given the issues with Meta unilaterally removing groups, it might be a good idea to move to another platform that is not so trigger-happy and also has better privacy protection&#8230; The issue is that those other platforms are often not as user-friendly as Facebook and not so familiar for the group&#8217;s members, so may be a steep learning curve for the admins and group members. &#8220;<\/p>\n<p>RNZ has reported on a number of cases where people have <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rnz.co.nz\/news\/business\/573294\/meta-s-suspension-of-social-media-accounts-takes-toll-on-kiwis\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">had their social media accounts suspended without a clear reason<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Tens of thousands of people around the world <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rnz.co.nz\/news\/national\/571326\/musician-pacific-leader-northland-grandmother-dozens-of-kiwis-social-accounts-banned\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">signed a petition<\/a> advocating for affected users, who said they had been silenced by Meta&#8217;s &#8220;broken AI enforcement systems&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>Facebook has been approached for comment.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/rnz.us6.list-manage.com\/subscribe?u=211a938dcf3e634ba2427dde9&amp;id=b4c9a30ed6\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Sign up for Money with Susan Edmunds<\/a>, a weekly newsletter covering all the things that affect how we make, spend and invest money.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Property Investor Chat Group NZ administrators said they had no warning from Meta. 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