{"id":131705,"date":"2025-11-12T20:07:08","date_gmt":"2025-11-12T20:07:08","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/131705\/"},"modified":"2025-11-12T20:07:08","modified_gmt":"2025-11-12T20:07:08","slug":"openai-slams-court-order-that-lets-nyt-read-20-million-complete-user-chats","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/131705\/","title":{"rendered":"OpenAI slams court order that lets NYT read 20 million complete user chats"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Chats stored under legal hold<\/p>\n<p>The 20 million chats consist of a random sampling of ChatGPT conversations from December 2022 to November 2024 and do not include chats of business customers, OpenAI said in the message on its website.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe presented several privacy-preserving options to The Times, including targeted searches over the sample (e.g., to search for chats that might include text from a New York Times article so they only receive the conversations relevant to their claims), as well as high-level data classifying how ChatGPT was used in the sample. These were rejected by The Times,\u201d OpenAI said.<\/p>\n<p>The chats are stored in a secure system that is \u201cprotected under legal hold, meaning it can\u2019t be accessed or used for purposes other than meeting legal obligations,\u201d OpenAI said. The NYT \u201cwould be legally obligated at this time to not make any data public outside the court process,\u201d and OpenAI said it will fight any attempts to make the user conversations public.<\/p>\n<p>A NYT <a href=\"https:\/\/storage.courtlistener.com\/recap\/gov.uscourts.nysd.640396\/gov.uscourts.nysd.640396.719.0.pdf\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">filing<\/a> on October 30 accused OpenAI of defying prior agreements \u201cby refusing to produce even a small sample of the billions of model outputs that its conduct has put in issue in this case.\u201d The filing continued:<\/p>\n<p>Immediate production of the output log sample is essential to stay on track for the February 26, 2026, discovery deadline. OpenAI\u2019s proposal to run searches on this small subset of its model outputs on Plaintiffs\u2019 behalf is as inefficient as it is inadequate to allow Plaintiffs to fairly analyze how \u201creal world\u201d users interact with a core product at the center of this litigation. Plaintiffs cannot reasonably conduct expert analyses about how OpenAI\u2019s models function in its core consumer-facing product, how retrieval augmented generation (\u201cRAG\u201d) functions to deliver news content, how consumers interact with that product, and the frequency of hallucinations without access to the model outputs themselves.<\/p>\n<p>OpenAI said the NYT\u2019s discovery requests were initially limited to logs \u201crelated to Times content\u201d and that it has \u201cbeen working to satisfy those requests by sampling conversation logs. Towards the end of that process, News Plaintiffs filed a motion with a new demand: that instead of finding and producing logs that are \u2018related to Times content,\u2019 OpenAI should hand over the entire 20 million-log sample \u2018via hard drive.&#8217;\u201d<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Chats stored under legal hold The 20 million chats consist of a random sampling of ChatGPT conversations from&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":131706,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[20],"tags":[365,363,364,111,139,69,145],"class_list":["post-131705","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-artificial-intelligence","tag-ai","tag-artificial-intelligence","tag-artificialintelligence","tag-new-zealand","tag-newzealand","tag-nz","tag-technology"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/131705","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=131705"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/131705\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/131706"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=131705"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=131705"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=131705"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}