{"id":148101,"date":"2025-11-22T12:36:14","date_gmt":"2025-11-22T12:36:14","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/148101\/"},"modified":"2025-11-22T12:36:14","modified_gmt":"2025-11-22T12:36:14","slug":"two-australian-police-officers-were-killed-in-an-ambush-it-was-deemed-terrorism-but-an-inquest-says-otherwise-australia-news","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/148101\/","title":{"rendered":"Two Australian police officers were killed in an ambush. It was deemed terrorism \u2013 but an inquest says otherwise | Australia news"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Three years ago on a remote Australian property, a trio of paranoid, deluded conspiracy theorists lay in wait.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">The three members of the Train family spent a year preparing ambush positions for a confrontation with <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/australia-news\/queensland\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" data-component=\"auto-linked-tag\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Queensland<\/a> police at their home in Wieambilla, 270km west of Brisbane, believing the battle marked the end of the world.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">They believed they needed \u201cto defend themselves and their property from what they regarded was an evil advance on them\u201d, a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/australia-news\/2025\/nov\/21\/wieambilla-qld-police-shooting-inquest-coroner-report-findings-queensland-ntwnfb\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">coronial inquest has now found<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>The property at Wieambilla where the Trains ambushed and killed two police officers and a neighbour. Photograph: Queensland coroner\u2019s court<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">The state coroner, Terry Ryan, on Friday accepted evidence by a forensic psychiatrist that t<a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/australia-news\/article\/2024\/aug\/12\/wieambilla-shooting-massacre-inquest-police-train-family-ntwnfb\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">hey were gripped by a \u201cfolie a trois\u201d<\/a> \u2013 a shared psychotic disorder based on the psychotic paranoia of Gareth Train. It was adopted by his wife, Stacey, and his brother, Nathaniel \u2013 who were once married to each other and had previously worked as school principals.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Those delusions turned a routine response to a missing person\u2019s report for Nathaniel \u2013 in which four young constables went to the Train\u2019s property \u2013 into an hours-long gun battle on 12 December 2022.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">In the end, six people \u2013 the Trains, constables Rachel McCrow and Matthew Arnold, and a neighbour, Alan Dare \u2013 were dead.<\/p>\n<p>A Special Emergency Response Team vehicle that was damaged in the shootout with the Trains. Photograph: Queensland coroner\u2019s court<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">\u201cQuite frankly, they were morally insane,\u201d the forensic psychiatrist, Dr Andrew Aboud, said of the Trains while giving evidence to the inquest last year.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">\u201cThey did not know what they were doing was wrong. They felt justified in their actions.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">According to Ryan\u2019s findings, the Trains believed they were serving \u201cGod\u2019s will\u201d. They believed the Covid-19 pandemic was evidence of a war between heaven and hell, a precursor to the second coming and that police wore \u201cmeat suits\u201d and were demons. They were intent on killing them and would rather die than be taken into custody, Ryan said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">The deaths were due to those paranoid delusions \u2013 and could not be called an act of terrorism \u2013 Ryan found.<\/p>\n<p>The bunker used by Nathaniel Train to ambush and shoot at police when they arrived. Photograph: Queensland coroner\u2019s court<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">However, when addressing some of the Train\u2019s beliefs in 2023, the Queensland Police Service came to a different conclusion. They described it as \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/australia-news\/2023\/feb\/16\/wieambilla-shootings-australia-christian-terrorist-attack-queensland-police\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">a religiously motivated terrorist attack<\/a>\u201d.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/australia-news\/article\/2024\/aug\/31\/wieambilla-shooting-inquest-mother-of-constable-says-deaths-must-not-be-in-vain-ntwnfb\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Associate Prof Josh Roose of Deakin University<\/a> gave evidence at the inquest last year, and argued that even a mentally ill person could act with intention.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">\u201cIt\u2019s a brand new world in so many ways, people spend enormous amounts of time online. People\u2019s distrust in government has significantly increased,\u201d he told the Guardian before the coroner handed down his findings.<\/p>\n<p>\u2018No match\u2019<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">On the day of the shootings, four Queensland police officers from two police stations, Chinchilla and Tara, were <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/australia-news\/article\/2024\/aug\/21\/wieambilla-police-shooting-inquest-emails-train-family-ntwnfb\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">tasked with making a missing person search and executing an arrest warrant<\/a> at the remote property at 251 Wains Road, Wieambilla.<\/p>\n<p><a data-name=\"placeholder\" href=\"https:\/\/interactive.guim.co.uk\/uploader\/embed\/2024\/07\/embed-71-zip\/giv-13425K418Hwlf2EFC\/\" class=\"dcr-1eupayo\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Map showing location of Wiembilla relative to Queensland and Australia<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Constables Arnold, McCrow, Randall Kirk and Keely Brough hopped the fence to enter the \u201cbush block\u201d.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Ryan found the weapons they carried \u201cwere no match\u201d for the high-powered rifles used by the shooters, who were in ambush positions.<\/p>\n<p>The Trains ambushed police with high-powered rifles from concealed positions in and around their property. Photograph: AP\/Queensland Department of Justice and Attorney General<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">\u201cOnce the shooting commenced, the officers\u2019 Glocks [handguns] were woefully inadequate for defending themselves,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Arnold and McCrow died at the scene. Kirk was hit with gunshots as he fled to their vehicle. Brough hid in dense bushland, with the Trains trying to flush her out by lighting a fire. Both Kirk and Brough survived.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Dare, who from his neighbouring property had seen the fire, was shot dead when he went to investigate the blaze.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Hours later, the Trains were shot and killed by officers of the special emergency response team. Ryan said their actions were appropriate, proportional and lawful.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">He described the actions of police that day as \u201cbrave\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>TimelineWieambilla shootingsShow<\/p>\n<p>1 December 2022<\/p>\n<p>Nathaniel Train reported missing to\u00a0NSW police. There is also a warrant out for his arrest on firearms charges. This is referred to Queensland police.<\/p>\n<p>10 December 2022<\/p>\n<p> Gareth is informed by email about the missing person&#8217;s report and responds with a message including anti-police comments. <\/p>\n<p>12 December 2022<\/p>\n<p>Job assigned to Chinchilla police, who seek assistance from Tara police. Four police travel to the property.<\/p>\n<p>12 December 2022<\/p>\n<p> 4.35pm<\/p>\n<p>Constables Matthew Arnold, Rachel McCrow,\u00a0Randall Kirk and Keely Brough\u00a0arrive at 251 Wains Road, Wieambilla.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>12 December 2022<\/p>\n<p> 4.37pm<\/p>\n<p>Nathaniel Train shoots Const Arnold dead from a prepared ambush position, known as a &#8220;hide&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>12 December 2022<\/p>\n<p>4.46pm <\/p>\n<p>Const McCrow, who had been wounded by rifle fire, is shot dead at close range by Gareth Train. She pleads for her life.<\/p>\n<p>12 December 2022<\/p>\n<p> 5.30pm<\/p>\n<p>Civilian Alan Dare killed by a gunshot to the torso from an unknown Train after going to the property to fight a fire. Wife Kelly is not told of the shooting incident during a 000 call.<\/p>\n<p>12 December 2022<\/p>\n<p> 5.30pm<\/p>\n<p>Police issue public service preservation act warning for the Wieambilla area, banning civilian movement.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>12 December 2022<\/p>\n<p> 6.37pm<\/p>\n<p>Const Brough rescued\u00a0by uniformed police extraction team. They also remove bodies of McCrow and Arnold, but not Dare.<\/p>\n<p>12 December 2022<\/p>\n<p>7.40pm <\/p>\n<p>Police special emergency response team arrive and take over the police inner cordon.<\/p>\n<p>12 December 2022<\/p>\n<p> 10.39pm<\/p>\n<p>Last of the Trains, Nathaniel, is killed by operators from the police special emergency response team. Shooting ends.<\/p>\n<p>Thank you for your feedback.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Ryan also found the Train\u2019s actions were fundamentally understood \u2013 by them \u2013 to be defensive and did not meet the legal definition of an act of terrorism.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">\u201cThe Trains\u2019 beliefs, though wrong, meant that they posed an extreme risk of danger to any police officer or other authority figure who might have attended their property,\u201d he found.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">But Roose says online radicalism has to be taken into account by emergency services, like police, fire fighters and paramedics.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">\u201cI think what we now see is an increasingly older cohort of men in particular, who are likely to carry out violent acts,\u201d he says.<\/p>\n<p>The recommendations<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Ryan held five weeks of hearings for his inquest, aided by police taking statements from more than 150 witnesses and by reviewing video and forensic evidence.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">He found that at least some of the firearms and ammunition used by the Trains was lawfully obtained and that Nathaniel, a weapons licence holder, was suffering a significant mental illness.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Among his 10 recommendations was that a review be carried out of the feasibility of mandatory mental health assessments for weapons licence applicants.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">He also called for better information sharing between state police services, additional aerial resources and better training for operators handling calls to emergency services.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">But he also rejected calls for additional police equipment. He found that \u201cit is difficult to see how any responding officers could have been adequately equipped to respond to the events as they unfolded\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>Judy McCrow (centre), mother of Rachel McCrow and Sue Arnold (right), mother of Matthew Arnold, speaking to the media. Photograph: Darren England\/AAP<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">After his findings were handed down, McCrow\u2019s mother, Judy, read a statement on behalf of the victims\u2019 families.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">\u201cThese recommendations, of course, come too late for Matt and Rachel and Alan Dare, who we believe should still be alive today if better processes were in place,\u201d she said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">\u201cWe are initially disappointed with the coronial recommendations, but we need time to read, process and respond to the findings and ensure that as families, our concerns and issues that were raised during this process have been listened to and respected.\u201d<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Three years ago on a remote Australian property, a trio of paranoid, deluded conspiracy theorists lay in wait.&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":148102,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[3],"tags":[42,43,40,38,41,39],"class_list":["post-148101","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-headlines","tag-headlines","tag-news","tag-top-news","tag-top-stories","tag-topnews","tag-topstories"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/148101","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=148101"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/148101\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/148102"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=148101"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=148101"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=148101"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}