{"id":185497,"date":"2025-12-15T22:40:13","date_gmt":"2025-12-15T22:40:13","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/185497\/"},"modified":"2025-12-15T22:40:13","modified_gmt":"2025-12-15T22:40:13","slug":"spacex-knocks-american-airliness-interest-in-amazon-leo-over-starlink","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/185497\/","title":{"rendered":"SpaceX Knocks American Airlines&#8217;s Interest In Amazon Leo Over Starlink"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>As Amazon\u2019s competitor to Starlink starts to emerge and generate customer interest, SpaceX executives are starting to snipe back.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>On Sunday, the company\u2019s CEO Elon Musk and another SpaceX VP lobbed some criticism toward American Airlines, which is reportedly interested in Amazon\u2019s satellite internet service, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.pcmag.com\/news\/project-kuiper-satellite-service-rebrands-as-amazon-project-leo\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">Leo<\/a>.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>American Airlines is already <a href=\"https:\/\/www.pcmag.com\/news\/free-inflight-wi-fi-finally-coming-to-american-airlines\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">tapping<\/a> Viasat and Intelsat for in-flight Wi-Fi for most of its fleet. But according to Bloomberg, the airline has also <a href=\"https:\/\/www.bloomberg.com\/news\/articles\/2025-12-10\/american-airlines-in-talks-with-amazon-for-leo-in-flight-wi-fi\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"(Opens in a new tab)\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">held<\/a> talks with Amazon about using Leo as well.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>The news triggered SpaceX VP for Starlink Engineering Michael Nicolls to comment, and throw some shade on Amazon\u2019s Leo, which has only kicked off a limited beta test to select customers.\u00a0In the meantime, Starlink is already <a href=\"https:\/\/www.pcmag.com\/news\/i-tested-starlink-on-a-united-airlines-flight-its-fast-and-steady-once\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">serving<\/a> a growing number of airlines, including United and Alaska, with in-flight Wi-Fi speeds that <a href=\"https:\/\/www.pcmag.com\/news\/planning-a-trip-airlines-with-the-speediest-in-flight-wi-starlink\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">beat<\/a> other providers by a significant margin.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>As a result, Nicolls <a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/elonmusk\/status\/2000347550591963546\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"(Opens in a new tab)\" rel=\"nofollow\">tweeted<\/a>: \u201cOnly fly on airlines with good connectivity\u2026 and only one source of good connectivity at the moment\u2026\u201d <\/p>\n<p>Musk then added: \u201cAmerican Airlines will lose a lot of customers if their connectivity solution fails.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>    <a class=\"text-gray-600\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/elonmusk\/status\/2000347550591963546\" title=\"(Opens in a new tab)\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\"><br \/>\n        This Tweet is currently unavailable. It might be loading or has been removed.<br \/>\n    <\/a><\/p>\n<p>The tweets highlight the brewing rivalry between Starlink and Amazon\u2019s Leo, which has faced numerous delays, but appears ready to start competing with SpaceX\u2019s satellite internet service. In September, Amazon <a href=\"https:\/\/www.pcmag.com\/news\/not-starlink-jetblue-picks-amazons-project-kuiper-for-in-flight-wi-fi\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">reached<\/a> a deal with JetBlue to power in-flight Wi-Fi in 2027. Last month, the e-commerce giant also <a href=\"https:\/\/www.pcmag.com\/news\/amazon-takes-aim-at-starlink-with-satellite-beta-promising-gigabit-speeds\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">announced<\/a> a preview program for Leo, promising it can offer gigabit satellite internet speeds \u2014a goal that SpaceX has also been chasing.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>        Recommended by Our Editors<\/p>\n<p>In addition, Amazon has begun <a href=\"https:\/\/www.pcmag.com\/news\/amazon-leo-starlink-rival-to-deploy-300-plus-gateway-stations-globally\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">touting<\/a> Leo\u2019s benefits to enterprise customers, which might draw interest away from Starlink. The Leo website has been <a href=\"https:\/\/leo.amazon.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"(Opens in a new tab)\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">updated<\/a> to mention it\u2019s targeting numerous sectors, including, aviation, maritime and transportation, in addition to consumers. \u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Still, Amazon faces a major hurdle in launching enough satellites for the company\u2019s Leo constellation; it currently spans about 150 satellites, not enough for robust coverage. In contrast, Starlink already encompasses over 9,000 active satellites, and has been <a href=\"https:\/\/www.pcmag.com\/news\/starlink-tops-8m-global-subscribers-as-spacex-inks-another-in-flight-wi\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">serving<\/a> over 8 million users worldwide.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Amazon and American Airlines didn\u2019t immediately respond to a request for comment. But satellite industry analyst Tim Farrar <a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/TMFAssociates\/status\/2000272938227159342\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"(Opens in a new tab)\" rel=\"nofollow\">noted<\/a> that SpaceX &#8220;only offers fleetwide take-it-or-leave-it deals&#8221; to airline providers. He added that American Airlines might have held talks with Amazon to pressure Viasat into offering better terms for its own in-flight Wi-Fi. <\/p>\n<p>    <a class=\"text-gray-600\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/TMFAssociates\/status\/2000272938227159342\" title=\"(Opens in a new tab)\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\"><br \/>\n        This Tweet is currently unavailable. 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