{"id":186089,"date":"2025-12-16T06:50:09","date_gmt":"2025-12-16T06:50:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/186089\/"},"modified":"2025-12-16T06:50:09","modified_gmt":"2025-12-16T06:50:09","slug":"killings-of-rob-and-michele-reiner-shatter-familys-gentle-legacy","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/186089\/","title":{"rendered":"Killings of Rob and Michele Reiner shatter family&#8217;s gentle legacy"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText  [&amp;_p]:tit-sub-xl tit-sub-xl md:[&amp;_p]:d-tit-sub-xl md:d-tit-sub-xl mb-[1.3rem]\">Until Monday&#8217;s shocking double killings, few families seemed more apart from the dark side of life than the Reiners.<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText  lg mb-4\">For decades, Rob Reiner and his father, Carl, had embodied a gentle, hopeful spirit in American culture.<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText  lg mb-4\">from Dick Van Dyke&#8217;s lovable antics on the show named for him and created by Carl, to the openly sentimental ending to Rob&#8217;s When Harry Met Sally\u2026 now held up as the kind of romantic comedy they don&#8217;t seem to make anymore. <\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText  lg mb-4\">Carl Reiner would call his son his favourite director, while Rob would recall being so awed by his father that he wanted to change his first name to Carl.<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText  lg mb-4\">Carl Reiner was married to his wife, Estelle, for more than 60 years; Rob to his wife, Michele, since 1989. <\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText  lg mb-4\">It was a dynasty seemingly spared of jealousy, cynicism and rage, or ambulances and police tape and 911 calls. <\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText  lg mb-4\">Few would have imagined that \u201cbooked for murder\u201d would appear in a sentence about any of them. <\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText  lg mb-4\">But, on Tuesday, Los Angeles police announced that 32-year-old Nick Reiner was in custody on suspicion of killing his parents, Rob and Michele.<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText  lg mb-4\">\u201cThey were among my closest friends,\u201d Maria Shriver wrote on Threads. \u201cWe laughed together, cried together, played together, dreamed together. We had dinner this past week, and they were in the best place in their lives.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/flowers-cover-the-walk-of-fame-star-for-rob-reiner-monday-CWWSF5Q7BFANRE35FDF4CRT3RY.jpg\" alt=\"Flowers cover the Walk of Fame star for Rob Reiner Monday\" width=\"800\" height=\"534\" loading=\"lazy\"\/><\/p>\n<p class=\"ImageMetadata__MetadataParagraph-sc-hi5x8q-0 cWTYyG image-metadata\">Flowers cover the Walk of Fame star for Rob Reiner Monday (Source: Associated Press)<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText  lg mb-4\">Actor-producer Rita Wilson wrote in an Instagram post that it was \u201cimpossible to reconcile the tragedy of their deaths with the beauty they offered the world\u201d.<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText  lg mb-4\">The Reiners never pretended to like everybody. Carl Reiner, who died in 2020, had appeared in an anti-Donald Trump ad two years earlier, urging like-minded citizens to vote during the midterm elections. Rob Reiner was a liberal who denounced Trump for years as a threat to democracy, and was labelled by the president on Monday a victim of \u201cTrump Derangement Syndrome\u201d.<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText  lg mb-4\">But the Reiners&#8217; politics, even at their angriest, were rooted in persuasion and civic engagement, the belief that the right words could bring about justice and redemption in A Few Good Men. <\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText  lg mb-4\">Rob&#8217;s adaptation of the Aaron Sorkin play, an inexperienced Navy defence lawyer outwits a bullying commander into confessing his complicity with the death of a young private. <\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText  lg mb-4\">The American President, a 1995 Reiner-Sorkin collaboration released during President Bill Clinton&#8217;s first term, was a kind liberal fairy tale about a wavering chief executive who rediscovers his principles \u2013 and finds love with an environmental lobbyist.<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText  lg mb-4\">\u201cBeneath all of the stories [Rob Reiner)] produced was a deep belief in the goodness of people \u2014 and a lifelong commitment to putting that belief into action,\u201d former President Barack Obama wrote on X.<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText  lg mb-4\">As the liberal Mike Stivic in All in the Family, Reiner argued constantly with his bigoted father-in-law, Archie Bunker (played by Carroll O&#8217;Connor), but never gave up on reconciling with him. After one especially heated exchange, Stivic&#8217;s mother-in-law, Edith (Jean Stapleton), explains to him that Archie&#8217;s anger comes out of resentment that Mike is young and his life is before him.<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText  lg mb-4\">When he sees Archie again, Mike hugs him: \u201cI understand,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText  lg mb-4\">Even the acknowledged struggles of Nick Reiner appeared to have been resolved. <\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText  lg mb-4\">In his teens, he was in out of treatment facilities and was homeless on occasion. <\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText  lg mb-4\">But, by 2015, the two had worked together on the semi-autobiographical film, Being Charlie, about a young addict and his tensions with his famous father. <\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText  lg mb-4\">Both would say the project brought them closer. <\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText  lg mb-4\">Nick Reiner told People magazine at the time that movies proved a mutual passion. Rob Reiner told The Associated Press that he had confronted his mistakes as a parent.<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText  lg mb-4\">\u201cWe didn\u2019t go into it thinking this is going to be therapeutic or bring us closer, but it did come out that way,\u201d Rob Reiner told the AP. <\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText  lg mb-4\">\u201cIt forced us to understand ourselves better than we had. I told Nick while we were making it, I said, \u2018you know it doesn\u2019t matter, whatever happens to this thing, we won already. 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