{"id":190835,"date":"2025-12-18T23:58:10","date_gmt":"2025-12-18T23:58:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/190835\/"},"modified":"2025-12-18T23:58:10","modified_gmt":"2025-12-18T23:58:10","slug":"why-are-the-avatar-movies-so-massive-their-success-seems-to-defy-conventional-logic","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/190835\/","title":{"rendered":"Why are the &#8216;Avatar&#8217; movies so massive? Their success seems to defy conventional logic"},"content":{"rendered":"<p id=\"24bfe652-0be1-4362-9ebf-9f4c2093663e\">What will be highest grossing film released in 2025? Record-breaking Chinese animation &#8220;Ne Zha 2&#8221; is currently in pole position, hundreds of millions of dollars ahead of &#8220;Lilo &amp; Stitch&#8221; and the still-in-theaters &#8220;Zootopia 2&#8221; (&#8220;Zootropolis 2&#8221; in the UK). But you&#8217;d be unwise to bet against a movie that arrives on the big screen this week, the third instalment in a franchise with a proven track record of blowing box office expectations out of the water.<\/p>\n<p>2009&#8217;s &#8220;Avatar&#8221; and 2022 sequel &#8220;Avatar: The Way of Water&#8221; are currently the highest and third-highest grossing movies of all time, sandwiching &#8220;Avengers: Endgame&#8221; at the top of the all-time list. Although they&#8217;re not built on decades-old IP, James Cameron&#8217;s sci-fi actioners have both made more money than every single &#8220;Star Wars&#8221; movie, and all-but-one of the MCU&#8217;s 37 big-screen outings to date. And with accepted Hollywood wisdom suggesting that films don&#8217;t gain access to the $2 billion club unless a sizeable number of viewers are heading back for repeat viewings, the &#8220;Avatar&#8221;s have clearly found the secret sauce \u2014 the, if you will, box office unobtanium \u2014 that everybody else in Hollywood would happily travel to <a data-analytics-id=\"inline-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.space.com\/18090-alpha-centauri-nearest-star-system.html\" data-mrf-recirculation=\"inline-link\" data-before-rewrite-localise=\"https:\/\/www.space.com\/18090-alpha-centauri-nearest-star-system.html\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Alpha Centauri<\/a> to find.<\/p>\n<p>But \u2014 and here&#8217;s the thing \u2014 I just don&#8217;t get it. I appreciate the technical achievement, of course, and Cameron still has few equals when it comes to directing action scenes \u2014 you can take the man out of &#8220;<a data-analytics-id=\"inline-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.space.com\/the-terminator-movies-in-order\" data-mrf-recirculation=\"inline-link\" data-before-rewrite-localise=\"https:\/\/www.space.com\/the-terminator-movies-in-order\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Terminator<\/a>&#8221; and &#8220;<a data-analytics-id=\"inline-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.space.com\/alien-movies-in-order\" data-mrf-recirculation=\"inline-link\" data-before-rewrite-localise=\"https:\/\/www.space.com\/alien-movies-in-order\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Aliens<\/a>&#8220;, but you can&#8217;t take &#8220;Terminator&#8221; and &#8220;Aliens&#8221; out of the man.<\/p>\n<p>You may like<\/p>\n<p class=\"vanilla-image-block\" style=\"padding-top:56.25%;\">\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/hVtC4pgoSEqGQUw3bd9W7c.jpg\" alt=\"Still from the movie Avatar: Fire and Ash.\"   loading=\"lazy\" data-new-v2-image=\"true\" data-original-mos=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/hVtC4pgoSEqGQUw3bd9W7c.jpg\" data-pin-media=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/hVtC4pgoSEqGQUw3bd9W7c.jpg\" class=\"inline\"\/>\n<\/p>\n<p>(Image credit: 20th Century Studios)<\/p>\n<p id=\"9c9eff2c-5dcb-4ce2-abdf-79522220c528\">The stories, however, are extremely derivative, populated by characters who don&#8217;t always share the 3D qualities of the visuals. Although they&#8217;re both decent (if overlong) movies, I&#8217;ve never felt a desire to watch them again right away, as I have with &#8220;<a data-analytics-id=\"inline-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.space.com\/entertainment\/space-movies-shows\/10-years-later-the-force-awakens-stands-as-the-blueprint-for-a-star-wars-that-never-was\" data-mrf-recirculation=\"inline-link\" data-before-rewrite-localise=\"https:\/\/www.space.com\/entertainment\/space-movies-shows\/10-years-later-the-force-awakens-stands-as-the-blueprint-for-a-star-wars-that-never-was\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">The Force Awakens<\/a>&#8220;, &#8220;Avengers: Endgame&#8221; and many other blockbusters. I&#8217;m also unconvinced that either \u2014 particularly the inferior &#8220;The Way of Water&#8221; \u2014 deserved a Best Picture Oscar nomination.<\/p>\n<p><a id=\"elk-seasonal\" class=\"paywall\" aria-hidden=\"true\" data-url=\"\" href=\"\" target=\"_blank\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer-when-downgrade\" data-hl-processed=\"none\"\/><\/p>\n<p id=\"9c9eff2c-5dcb-4ce2-abdf-79522220c528-1\">In fact, when it comes to &#8220;Avatar&#8221;&#8216;s multi-billion-dollar success story, the only thing I can be certain about is that normal rules don&#8217;t apply.<\/p>\n<p>Which got me thinking: did I always feel this way, or have I just jumped on some post-release bandwagon?<\/p>\n<p>I first saw the original &#8220;Avatar&#8221; at a preview screening in 2009, before anyone had any idea that its box office take would leave the then-record holder, Cameron&#8217;s own &#8220;Titanic&#8221;, trailing in its wake.<\/p>\n<p class=\"newsletter-form__strapline\">Breaking space news, the latest updates on rocket launches, skywatching events and more!<\/p>\n<p>The review I wrote for <a data-analytics-id=\"inline-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.cinemablend.com\/sfx\" target=\"_blank\" data-url=\"https:\/\/www.cinemablend.com\/sfx\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer-when-downgrade\" data-hl-processed=\"none\" data-mrf-recirculation=\"inline-link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">SFX magazine<\/a> said that, &#8220;The dense forests of Pandora look so real that you feel like someone&#8217;s smashed a rectangular hole through the cinema wall and opened a window onto another planet.&#8221; Indeed, I was full of praise for the game-changing 3D visuals, but lukewarm about the &#8220;predictable and derivative&#8221; story. I gave the film 4.5 stars out of 5, with the caveat that the experience was so geared towards the multiplex that the film would &#8220;automatically get a star docked as soon as it arrives on the small screen&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p class=\"vanilla-image-block\" style=\"padding-top:53.96%;\">\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/yWdBoqiHYcvubthwzJZGWA.jpg\" alt=\"Screenshot from Avatar: The Way of Water\"   loading=\"lazy\" data-new-v2-image=\"true\" data-original-mos=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/yWdBoqiHYcvubthwzJZGWA.jpg\" data-pin-media=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/yWdBoqiHYcvubthwzJZGWA.jpg\" class=\"inline\"\/>\n<\/p>\n<p>(Image credit: Disney)<\/p>\n<p id=\"f15f3d76-2b93-47b2-a6b8-4b78d9d71615\">I stand by every word, to the extent that I didn&#8217;t watch the original film again for over a decade, keen not to sully the experience by watching on TV. I wasn&#8217;t alone among critics, either, seeing as the original movie currently stands at 81% on Rotten Tomatoes&#8217; Tomatometer. It&#8217;s a good but not great score \u2014 the second lowest (ahead of &#8220;Jurassic World&#8221;) in the all-time box-office top 10, and well behind previous Cameron classics &#8220;The Terminator&#8221;, &#8220;Aliens&#8221;, &#8220;Terminator 2: Judgment Day&#8221; and &#8220;Titanic&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Avatar&#8221; wouldn&#8217;t be the first franchise where critics and audiences have disagreed, and we&#8217;re hardly in &#8220;<a data-analytics-id=\"inline-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.space.com\/transformer-movies-in-order\" data-mrf-recirculation=\"inline-link\" data-before-rewrite-localise=\"https:\/\/www.space.com\/transformer-movies-in-order\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Transformers<\/a>&#8221; territory, where box office takings have often seemed inversely proportional to the quality of the movies. Nonetheless, it&#8217;s hard to think of another recent Hollywood property where the theatrical experience has been so integral to the sales pitch.<\/p>\n<p>You may like<\/p>\n<p>Just as Tom Cruise has done his best to pack out multiplexes by risking life and limb in the name of &#8220;Missions: Impossible&#8221;, Cameron has weaponized the prospect of 3D visuals light years ahead of his competitors. I still remember watching a preview for &#8220;The Way of Water&#8221; where the illusion of depth was so convincing that I wondered if it was raining indoors.<\/p>\n<p class=\"vanilla-image-block\" style=\"padding-top:52.73%;\">\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/UXD8qEH72yv5uJ4UoZDxSA.jpg\" alt=\"Screenshot from Avatar: The Way of Water\"   loading=\"lazy\" data-new-v2-image=\"true\" data-original-mos=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/UXD8qEH72yv5uJ4UoZDxSA.jpg\" data-pin-media=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/UXD8qEH72yv5uJ4UoZDxSA.jpg\" class=\"inline\"\/>\n<\/p>\n<p>(Image credit: Disney)<\/p>\n<p id=\"2f6665a9-c3c1-4f0a-ab5d-3e072786d3b2\">&#8220;Avatar&#8221; didn&#8217;t quite kickstart a stereoscopic revolution \u2014 though it did prompt thousands of cinemas to get 3D-ready \u2014 but how many other films have convinced their audience that watching &#8220;flat&#8221; would diminish the experience? With 3D tickets generally selling at a premium price, this certainly didn&#8217;t harm those box office receipts.<\/p>\n<p>The &#8220;wow&#8221; factor has arguably stretched &#8220;Avatar&#8221;&#8216;s appeal, drawing in viewers who wouldn&#8217;t otherwise contemplate spending three hours in the company of big blue aliens.<\/p>\n<p>But it&#8217;s outside the US that &#8220;Avatar&#8221; has really come into its own. According to a <a data-analytics-id=\"inline-link\" href=\"https:\/\/go.redirectingat.com?id=92X1588396&amp;xcust=space_us_8572141795464372470&amp;xs=1&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fyougov.com%2Farticles%2F47098-a-quarter-of-global-consumers-have-watched-avatar-2-in-cinemas&amp;sref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.space.com%2Fentertainment%2Fspace-movies-shows%2Fwhy-are-the-avatar-movies-so-massive-their-success-seems-to-defy-conventional-logic\" data-url=\"https:\/\/yougov.com\/articles\/47098-a-quarter-of-global-consumers-have-watched-avatar-2-in-cinemas\" target=\"_blank\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer-when-downgrade\" rel=\"sponsored noopener nofollow\" data-hl-processed=\"skimlinks\" data-google-interstitial=\"false\" data-placeholder-url=\"https:\/\/go.redirectingat.com?id=92X1588396&amp;xcust=hawk-custom-tracking&amp;xs=1&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fyougov.com%2Farticles%2F47098-a-quarter-of-global-consumers-have-watched-avatar-2-in-cinemas&amp;sref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.space.com%2Fentertainment%2Fspace-movies-shows%2Fwhy-are-the-avatar-movies-so-massive-their-success-seems-to-defy-conventional-logic\" data-mrf-recirculation=\"inline-link\">YouGov<\/a> survey, a whopping 48% of urban consumers in India and 33% in China saw &#8220;The Way of Water&#8221; in theaters \u2014 that&#8217;s compared to just 13% in the UK and just 11% in the US. Both are markets where &#8220;Star Wars&#8221;, for example, has historically struggled to make an impact \u2014 while &#8220;The Force Awakens&#8221; made almost half its money in the US, barely a quarter of &#8220;Avatar&#8221;&#8216;s revenue was earned at home.<\/p>\n<p class=\"vanilla-image-block\" style=\"padding-top:55.00%;\">\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/bqNSCJmBtX4HgzowVcZ3PA.jpg\" alt=\"Screenshot from Avatar: The Way of Water\"   loading=\"lazy\" data-new-v2-image=\"true\" data-original-mos=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/bqNSCJmBtX4HgzowVcZ3PA.jpg\" data-pin-media=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/bqNSCJmBtX4HgzowVcZ3PA.jpg\" class=\"inline\"\/>\n<\/p>\n<p>(Image credit: Disney)<\/p>\n<p id=\"ea5ea445-0b71-4d65-a386-0868468052c2\">Most remarkably, the two &#8220;Avatar&#8221; movies to date have achieved their success without a vast shared universe \u2014 or spin-off shows on Disney+ \u2014 to support them. In an era when saturating the market with &#8220;product&#8221; has been the strategy for pretty much every major franchise in Hollywood, they&#8217;re something of an outlier. That &#8220;The Way of Water&#8221; should arrive a whole 13 years after its predecessor and still sail past $2 billion defies all conventional logic, especially given the global box office&#8217;s well-documented struggles in a post-pandemic world.<\/p>\n<p>Any movie that can help fight the good fight for theaters against streaming feels like a good thing, as does a franchise that keeps its focus firmly on the big screen. Even so, I don&#8217;t think &#8220;Avatar&#8221; is a saga I&#8217;m ever going to love.<\/p>\n<p>Part of me still dreams that Cameron might one day back and make something more tactile again, a throwback to the glory days of &#8220;Aliens&#8221; and the &#8220;Terminator&#8221;s \u2014 it&#8217;s telling that the thing I liked most in &#8220;The Way of Water&#8221; was the Colonial Marines-esque military hardware. But maybe yearning for a director to make films as he did three decades ago is a bit like going to see Radiohead and complaining the set wasn&#8217;t dominated by songs from &#8220;The Bends&#8221; and &#8220;OK Computer&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>Perhaps I should just accept that I&#8217;ll never truly understand why the &#8220;Avatar&#8221; films are so successful, and admire them for best-in-class technical qualities. Besides, there is one thing I do know \u2014 as anyone in Hollywood will tell you, you should never, ever bet against James Cameron.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;<a data-analytics-id=\"inline-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.space.com\/everything-we-know-about-avatar-fire-and-ash-release-date-plot-cast\" data-mrf-recirculation=\"inline-link\" data-before-rewrite-localise=\"https:\/\/www.space.com\/everything-we-know-about-avatar-fire-and-ash-release-date-plot-cast\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Avatar: Fire &amp; Ash<\/a>&#8221; hits theaters worldwide on December 19, 2025. &#8220;Avatar&#8221; and &#8220;Avatar: The Way of Water&#8221; are available on <a data-analytics-id=\"inline-link\" href=\"https:\/\/disneyplus.bn5x.net\/c\/221109\/564546\/9358?subId1=space-us-9020248102851617539&amp;sharedId=space-us&amp;u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.disneyplus.com%2Fsign-up\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"sponsored noopener nofollow\" data-url=\"https:\/\/www.disneyplus.com\/sign-up\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer-when-downgrade\" data-hl-processed=\"hawklinks\" data-google-interstitial=\"false\" data-placeholder-url=\"https:\/\/disneyplus.bn5x.net\/c\/221109\/564546\/9358?subId1=hawk-custom-tracking&amp;sharedId=hawk-prefix&amp;u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.disneyplus.com%2Fsign-up\" data-merchant-name=\"Disney+\" data-merchant-id=\"128540\" data-merchant-network=\"ImpactRad\" data-merchant-url=\"disneyplus.com\" data-tracking-pixel-url=\"https:\/\/imp.pxf.io\/i\/221109\/1617618\/9358\" data-mrf-recirculation=\"inline-link\">Disney+<\/a>. <\/p>\n<p><a id=\"elk-66290560-9193-493b-80c9-508f55e3893c\" class=\"paywall\" aria-hidden=\"true\" data-url=\"\" href=\"\" target=\"_blank\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer-when-downgrade\" data-hl-processed=\"none\"\/><a id=\"elk-25a78d97-8e00-4d13-aa9c-4bcad618552e\" class=\"paywall\" aria-hidden=\"true\" data-url=\"\" href=\"\" target=\"_blank\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer-when-downgrade\" data-hl-processed=\"none\"\/><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"What will be highest grossing film released in 2025? 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