{"id":198826,"date":"2025-12-23T23:55:09","date_gmt":"2025-12-23T23:55:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/198826\/"},"modified":"2025-12-23T23:55:09","modified_gmt":"2025-12-23T23:55:09","slug":"emails-reveal-marlon-williams-paul-goldsmith-treaty-principles-exchange","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/198826\/","title":{"rendered":"Emails reveal Marlon Williams, Paul Goldsmith Treaty principles exchange"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">Williams told Goldsmith he had emailed him but did not expect a reply.<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">That email, dated December 2023, detailed his concerns about the now-defeated bill and its political context.<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cI understand that the regrettable state of political comity in this country (and abroad) has lead [sic] to this unorthodox and disparately focused coalition,\u201d he wrote.<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cMoreover, I understand that there is a huge constituent of conservative New Zealanders who have a very real fear of some of the rhetoric of the \u2018far left\u2019 (and vice versa) and that it is foolish and in a sense undemocratic to ignore this.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">Williams, who is of M\u0101ori (Ng\u0101i Tahu, Ng\u0101i Tai) and P\u0101keh\u0101 descent, told Goldsmith he was not entirely opposed to needs-based structuring of certain public policies, as long as they conformed with Treaty principles.<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">However, a referendum might not provide the democratic solution some assumed, Williams said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cWe both know a referendum is not the clean \u2018democracy in action\u2019 play that it is purported to be. To quote the 1986 Royal Commission on the Electoral System: \u2018In general, initiatives and referendums are blunt and crude devices [that] would blur the lines of accountability and responsibility of governments.\u2019<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cI appeal to you as a respectable historian and treaty expert, who knows more than I do of its historical and current import, who knows well the name James Prendergast, to conscientiously investigate whether <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nzherald.co.nz\/nz\/politics\/treaty-principles-bill-second-reading-of-controversial-policy-scheduled-for-this-afternoon\/CZGEFMA56BDHFPLKFPSEEAB3XY\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.nzherald.co.nz\/nz\/politics\/treaty-principles-bill-second-reading-of-controversial-policy-scheduled-for-this-afternoon\/CZGEFMA56BDHFPLKFPSEEAB3XY\/\">Act\u2019s Bill on Treaty Principles<\/a> is really a healthy and productive step for this country.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">Goldsmith\u2019s reply, sent on the night of the awards, apologised for not responding.<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cHave searched my email and found your letter, which was sadly lost in the multitude I received at the time,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">He congratulated Williams on the award, but noted, \u201cmusic, of course, is not owned by any one end of the political spectrum, even though it seemed that way tonight\u201d.<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cI\u2019d be very happy to meet up and talk through some of the things you raised, any time,\u201d he wrote.<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">The Treaty Principles Bill was <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nzherald.co.nz\/nz\/treaty-principles-bill-is-dead-and-buried-but-our-silent-division-is-dangerous-mike-king\/Y5SLHL54UJGHVHRP42TVAYSQQM\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.nzherald.co.nz\/nz\/treaty-principles-bill-is-dead-and-buried-but-our-silent-division-is-dangerous-mike-king\/Y5SLHL54UJGHVHRP42TVAYSQQM\/\">defeated at its second reading<\/a> in April.<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">Act leader <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nzherald.co.nz\/topic\/david-seymour\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.nzherald.co.nz\/topic\/david-seymour\/\">David Seymour<\/a> has vowed to reignite the debate in 2026, saying the bill \u201cplanted the seeds of a movement of equal rights for this country that won\u2019t go away any time soon\u201d.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Williams told Goldsmith he had emailed him but did not expect a reply. 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