In 2024, a team of scientists from China and France published a study in the journal Physics of Fluids that detected mathematical turbulence in the complex scaling of Van Gogh\u2019s brushstrokes. <\/p>\n
The paper added to a years-long discussion that had been ping-ponging back and forth through the rarefied pages of physics journals.<\/p>\n
James Riley, a professor emeritus of mechanical engineering at the University of Washington, learned about the new 2024 claim of turbulence in the painting when his daughter texted him a news story about the paper.<\/p>\n
\u201cIt seemed kind of strange,\u201d said Riley, who earned his graduate degree with Stanley Corrsin, a fluid mechanics expert who made major contributions to the understanding of turbulence. <\/p>\n
\u201cI downloaded the paper, and I read it. And I just realised the paper was nonsense – just nonsense.\u201d<\/p>\n
A trio of analyses have now appeared from Riley and a separate group of scientists, rebutting the 2024 paper – with a harsh edge not always typical of the staid tone of scientific writing.<\/p>\n
\u201cThe claims of the authors would normally be rejected out of hand by researchers in turbulent flows,\u201d Riley and Mohamed Gad-el-Hak, a fluid mechanics expert at Virginia Commonwealth University, wrote in the Journal of Turbulence.<\/p>\n
The dispute shows science in action. Contrary to the idea that science is a set of static facts in a textbook created by dispassionate experts, it\u2019s a human process. <\/p>\n
There are findings and conclusions, but science itself is a method for interrogating the world, subject to the limitations of the techniques being used. <\/p>\n
Disagreements are common, knowledge is refined over time, and sometimes the protagonists become intemperate, annoyed, even jealous.<\/p>\n
\u201cI have published numerous articles over the past 30 years, but I have never encountered such animosity from colleagues (this is their third article criticising us in such harsh terms!),\u201d Francois Schmitt, a physicist at the French National Centre for Scientific Research and one of the authors of the 2024 paper wrote in an email. <\/p>\n
\u201cDisagreements are part of the scientific method and the academic world. Why so much aggression? Usually, if we disagree, we discuss it in a well-argued article, without aggression.\u201d<\/p>\n
Turbulence about turbulence<\/p>\n
Turbulent flow is chaotic. Despite the fact that it pops up in nature constantly, it is considered one of the hardest problems in physics. <\/p>\n
It links the motion of fluids over a wide range of sizes, from large-scale swirls to smaller ones.<\/p>\n
To find turbulence in The Starry Night in their 2024 paper, Schmitt and colleagues began by analysing the individual brushstrokes in each of the 14 night-sky vortexes that animate the painting. <\/p>\n
They found the brushstrokes followed a \u201cscaling law\u201d put forward in the 1940s by Andrey N. Kolmogorov, a Soviet mathematician, and extended upon by two scientists, including Corrsin, Riley\u2019s graduate adviser.<\/p>\n
Many news organisations, including the Post, wrote about the paper – a rare intersection of a study that involves very complicated atmospheric phenomena with something many can relate to. <\/p>\n
The level of publicity, Riley said, made it essential to try and correct the record.<\/p>\n
One of the new rebuttal papers, published in the Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society, used similar techniques to analyse a different painting – A Woman Seated beside a Vase of Flowers. Those scientists found the same mathematical patterns in the Edgar Degas painting few people, if any, would describe as turbulent – emotionally or scientifically.<\/p>\n
Just because a painting satisfies one mathematical criteria for turbulence, it isn\u2019t sufficient to declare it turbulence, those authors argued. <\/p>\n
\u201cThe painting does not look like any recognisable, naturally occurring atmospheric process, let alone a turbulent one,\u201d an anonymous reviewer wrote of The Starry Night.<\/p>\n
In a written statement, Yongxiang Huang of Xiamen University, an author of the 2024 paper rejoined. \u201cWe must point out a critical distinction regarding the subject matter: flowers are not clouds. <\/p>\n
\u201cFinding a specific spectral result on a painted image of flowers has no bearing on our study of turbulent atmospheric flow patterns in clouds.\u201d<\/p>\n
Riley argued in the Journal of Turbulence the entire analysis was a misapplication of the theory around turbulence. He said in an interview that he believed the 2024 paper should be retracted.<\/p>\n
In the third paper, a commentary published in Physics of Fluids, scientists from both groups teamed up to argue the 2024 paper\u2019s conclusions are unfounded.<\/p>\n
In a reply paper that hasn\u2019t been published, Huang and his team wrote: \u201cWe fully recognise that the painting is a work of art, not a scientific experiment. Our intention was never to undermine its artistic value, but rather to demonstrate that, through rigorous analysis-and contrary to previous claims in the academic literature, the Kolmogorov-Obukhov-Corrsin scaling law can indeed be observed, even if only across a restricted range of scales.\u201d<\/p>\n
In so many ways, this fight does not matter to the average person gazing at The Starry Night. <\/p>\n
Van Gogh was an artist, not a mathematician trying to represent with oil paint a statistical theory that didn\u2019t emerge until half a century after his death. But the matter may not be completely settled.<\/p>\n
Jose Luis Aragon, a physicist at the National Autonomous University of Mexico who authored a previous paper that found evidence of turbulence in The Starry Night, said in an email that he was persuaded by critiques of the 2024 paper because it \u201crests on a fundamental conceptual mistake: they treat a painting as if it possessed the physical reality of a fluid flow\u201d. <\/p>\n
\u201cBy identifying and analysing \u2018eddies\u2019 in a static image, they implicitly assume a physical system where none exists.\u201d<\/p>\n
He noted that his own analysis found turbulence by examining the brightness of the brushstrokes, using it as an analogy for velocity. His paper examined fluctuations in changes in brightness between pixels.<\/p>\n
\u201cThe luminance contain[s] statistical signatures reminiscent of turbulence,\u201d Aragon said. <\/p>\n
\u201cAnd that they therefore transmit the essence of turbulent motion with striking realism.\u201d<\/p>\n
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