{"id":32673,"date":"2025-09-20T04:43:14","date_gmt":"2025-09-20T04:43:14","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/32673\/"},"modified":"2025-09-20T04:43:14","modified_gmt":"2025-09-20T04:43:14","slug":"reuben-torne-opens-up-on-scott-barretts-captaincy-after-boks-loss","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/32673\/","title":{"rendered":"Reuben Torne opens up on Scott Barrett&#8217;s captaincy after Boks loss"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Reuben Thorne feels the All Blacks\u2019 playing leadership group should all take responsibility for their current predicament after their recent defeat to the Springboks in Wellington.<\/p>\n<p>The Springboks delivered a dominant performance en route to their 43-10 triumph at Sky Stadium on Saturday and, in doing so, they condemned the All Blacks to their heaviest ever defeat in Test rugby.<\/p>\n<p>Following that humiliating result, questions have been asked about the leadership of the side, with head coach Scott Robertson and captain and second-rower Scott Barrett the obvious people in the firing line.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.planetrugby.com\/tag\/Reuben-Thorne\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Thorne<\/a> represented the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.planetrugby.com\/team\/new-zealand\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">All Blacks<\/a> in 50 Tests from 1999 to 2007 of which 22 of those appearances were as captain between 2002 and 2003 and while he admits that the skipper can become a focal point for criticism after such a heavy defeat, he feels that <a href=\"https:\/\/www.planetrugby.com\/tag\/Scott-Barrett\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Barrett<\/a>\u2018s role in the team makes it difficult for him to bear the sole responsibility for his side\u2019s loss.<\/p>\n<p>\u2018All Blacks have a number of very experienced leaders\u2019<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWell, look, it depends on it. I mean, I know the focus is always on the captain more than other players, but there\u2019s a number of very experienced leaders in that group,\u201d he told Jason Pine on Newstalk ZB.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cNow, you know, you look at his brothers, Beauden, Jordie, they\u2019ve been around a while, Ardie Savea, Codie Taylor. There\u2019s a whole group of them that have a lot of Test match experience who will all be contributing, and they\u2019ll have different roles on the field.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cScott\u2019s the face of it, but all of those guys are involved in that leadership and decision-making part of the game, and particularly, I guess the game management is often not the captain, particularly if he\u2019s in a position like Scott\u2019s where he\u2019s head down in the scrum.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.planetrugby.com\/news\/all-blacks-injury-ravaged-position-gets-timely-bledisloe-cup-boost\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">All Blacks: Injury-ravaged position gets timely Bledisloe Cup boost<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u201cYou are relying on some of these other key guys to make good decisions around how you manage to manage the game and manage the field.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cSo, it\u2019s easy to point the finger at one person and say, well, I don\u2019t like his style, but in my experience, it\u2019s generally a whole group involved in the leadership environment, and they\u2019ll be working pretty hard to try and fix and find some solutions.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The All Blacks were comprehensively outplayed in Saturday\u2019s Test with the Boks and it was put to Thorne that \u201cthere wasn\u2019t a lot to hang on to\u201d when Barrett was interviewed as the men in black\u2019s captain in the post-match interview.<\/p>\n<p>\u2018Very hard in the heat of the moment\u2019<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt\u2019s very hard in the heat of the moment, straight after a game, when you get a camera and an interviewer coming up to you and wanting answers immediately post-match, particularly when you\u2019ve been on the receiving end of a loss like that,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cHe\u2019ll need time to reflect on it, and they\u2019ll look back closely on what they\u2019ve got.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cBut to expect him to front up and have answers straight away and articulate that really clearly straight after a game, it\u2019s really challenging.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI think we give him space, give the team some time to look at it.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>READ MORE: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.planetrugby.com\/news\/all-blacks-hero-claims-springboks-have-a-scare-factor-and-makes-bold-big-beast-world-cup-prediction\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">All Blacks hero claims Springboks have a \u2018scare factor\u2019 and makes bold \u2018big beast\u2019 World Cup prediction<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Reuben Thorne feels the All Blacks\u2019 playing leadership group should all take responsibility for their current predicament after&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":32674,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[9],"tags":[1463,1464,111,43,139,69,1465,31016,213],"class_list":["post-32673","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-sports","tag-home-page","tag-internationals","tag-new-zealand","tag-news","tag-newzealand","tag-nz","tag-rugby-championship","tag-scott-barrett","tag-sports"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/32673","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=32673"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/32673\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/32674"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=32673"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=32673"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=32673"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}