{"id":333914,"date":"2026-03-17T12:11:12","date_gmt":"2026-03-17T12:11:12","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/333914\/"},"modified":"2026-03-17T12:11:12","modified_gmt":"2026-03-17T12:11:12","slug":"the-inaugural-talk-at-wellingtons-library-was-a-plea-to-normalise-climate-conversations","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/333914\/","title":{"rendered":"The inaugural talk at Wellington\u2019s library was a plea to normalise climate conversations\u00a0"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Books editor Claire Mabey reports back on \u2018Kiwis in Climate\u2019, the inaugural public event at Wellington library\u2019s stunning new event space, Ng\u0101 Pou Ruahine.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWill our species survive the climate crisis? That\u2019s a good story,\u201d said award-winning film maker and climate communications specialist Martha Jeffries, one of three panel members taking part in \u201cKiwis in Climate\u201d, the inaugural public event at Ng\u0101 Pou Ruahine, Te Matapihi Library\u2019s lush, adaptable space for public events.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Early evening sunlight streamed in through the wall-to-ceiling windows and over an eager crowd seated on aubergine-coloured couches, kidney-bean shaped bench seats, beanbags, rows of sleek new chairs, and hovering around a generously laden snacks table providing sustenance to sit through what I suspected was going to be a sobering conversation.<\/p>\n<p>The Kiwis in Climate event was riffing off the book of the same name \u2013 Kiwis in Climate: Voices for climate solutions in Aotearoa New Zealand, edited by Tessa Vincent. It\u2019s a weighty tome arranged in four parts: \u201cContext\u201d, \u201cCommunity\u201d, \u201cBusiness\u201d and \u201cGovernment\u201d and includes contributors such as Sophie Handford and Mary Moeono-Kolio (on the role of the youth climate movement in fighting for climate justice); food systems expert Emily King; founder of Go Well Consulting Nick Morrison (on why sustainability is good for business); and lawyer Jacinta Ruru, who writes on the topic of giving voice to Iwi in caring for lands and waters. Host of the event, social entrepreneur and \u201csystems changer\u201d Pip Wheaton, explained that the book was designed with busy, distracted people in mind \u2013 we\u2019re supposed to be able to read it one digestible chunk at a time.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><img alt=\"A table covered in snack plates: cheese platters, lolly bowls and fruit.\" src=\"data:image\/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP\/\/\/yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7\" decoding=\"async\" data-nimg=\"responsive\" style=\"position:absolute;top:0;left:0;bottom:0;right:0;box-sizing:border-box;padding:0;border:none;margin:auto;display:block;width:0;height:0;min-width:100%;max-width:100%;min-height:100%;max-height:100%\"\/>A+ snacks.<\/p>\n<p>Wheaton, Jeffries and fellow panelists, <a href=\"https:\/\/netzeroclimate.org\/netzero_team\/john-lang\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">Net Zero Tracker<\/a>\u2018s John Lang and Newsroom\u2019s senior political reporter Marc Daalder, honed their conversation in on the subject of climate communications and specifically, why it can be so ineffective. Wheaton cut straight to the heart of it by asking Jeffries how climate discourse could get beyond the base.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe\u2019re not entertaining people,\u201d was the crux of Jeffries\u2019 reply. She spoke to the fact that climate stories can be dull, impenetrable and off-putting with doom-and-gloom angles that turn audiences off by evoking feelings of nihilism. Jeffries was a lively speaker, passionate and energetic: it\u2019s easy to see why she\u2019s been pulled into a conversation that is inherently distressing for anyone remotely concerned about the state of the planet.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>John Lang\u2019s contributions to the conversation were centred on infographics. He shared a range of slides, illustrating a palpable belief in the power of metaphor, the principle of \u201cimage before words\u201d, and for trying to stop people in their doom-scrolling tracks with easily digestible visual explanations. Such methodology can combat dense, science-heavy reportage and can capture attention particularly at a time where climate discourse in some media outlets can be problematic. He referred the \u201cNet Zero backlash\u201d, a trend whereby \u201cNet Zero\u201d is being decoupled from climate stories in mainstream media, at least in the UK where he\u2019s based.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><img alt=\"Two infographics displayed on a projector screen. Both explain climate information.\" src=\"data:image\/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP\/\/\/yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7\" decoding=\"async\" data-nimg=\"responsive\" style=\"position:absolute;top:0;left:0;bottom:0;right:0;box-sizing:border-box;padding:0;border:none;margin:auto;display:block;width:0;height:0;min-width:100%;max-width:100%;min-height:100%;max-height:100%\"\/>Two of John Lang\u2019s infographics displayed on Ng\u0101 Pou Ruahine\u2019s projector screen.<\/p>\n<p>Newsroom\u2019s Marc Daalder spoke to the disheartening fact that climate coverage peaked in 2022 and has since seen a steady decline. He pointed out the lack of dedicated climate journalists and the decline of purposeful coverage, citing Stuff\u2019s<a href=\"https:\/\/www.stuff.co.nz\/forever-project\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\"> Forever Project<\/a> which launched in 2020 with a hiss and roar but has steadily lost momentum. \u201cThe media funding model is broken,\u201d he said, explaining that while mainstream media\u2019s audience engagement and reach exploded over the Covid pandemic, the fact that the public service role of mainstream media is not connected to its revenue model meant that media companies still lost money as advertising income dropped off a cliff. Daalder\u2019s solution was for all journalists to see themselves as climate reporters \u2013 riffing off Jeffries\u2019 insistence that climate needs to be the context for every story we tell.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe don\u2019t have an energy problem,\u201d said Jeffries in response to the question of why climate solutions aren\u2019t being rolled out, \u201cbut a power problem\u201d. Inevitably politics was central to the conversation. \u201cIt\u2019s been death by a thousand cuts,\u201d Jeffries said in relation to the current government\u2019s dismantling of climate policies \u2013 action for which the government is currently being <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rnz.co.nz\/news\/top\/589666\/government-s-climate-change-plans-go-to-the-high-court\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">taken to the High Court by Lawyers for Climate Action and the Environmental Law Initiative<\/a>, who are arguing that the changes are unlawful and risky.\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>The panel all agreed that climate solutions are there for the taking, but that lobbying by the fossil fuel industry has been successful in persuading politicians to maintain the status quo. \u201cThe problem is,\u201d said Jeffries, \u201ca lot of people don\u2019t know what good climate policy is. It goes beyond EVs and recycling, but we haven\u2019t done a great job of explaining that and the other side has a lot of money invested in confusing people.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Daalder wanted people to realise that power can be reclaimed in the fact we live in a democratic country and that we have spheres of influence: we can exert power through consumer choices, by voting and telling politicians what matters to us, and by being role models to our own communities.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><img alt=\"A crowd mills around speakers at the front of stunning room adorned with wall to ceiling artwork of earth mothers.\" src=\"data:image\/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP\/\/\/yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7\" decoding=\"async\" data-nimg=\"responsive\" style=\"position:absolute;top:0;left:0;bottom:0;right:0;box-sizing:border-box;padding:0;border:none;margin:auto;display:block;width:0;height:0;min-width:100%;max-width:100%;min-height:100%;max-height:100%\"\/>Some of the crowd speaking to the panel at the end of the event, enveloped by Darcy Nicholas\u2019 stunning paintings of earth mothers.<\/p>\n<p>The audience question time raised the issue of mental health in the face of the climate crisis. Wheaten and Jeffries agreed that there is a mental health crisis that runs alongside climate discourse: \u201cThere is grief, there is sadness and there\u2019s guilt,\u201d said Jeffries. \u201cAnd we have to process all of that before we get to excitement and joy.\u201d Wheaton elaborated by explaining that without processing the distressing feelings that go along with witnessing the destruction of the environment and with it the quality of life on earth, the positive stories of progress (where excitement and joy comes in) can feel disingenuous.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Lang closed the conversation with a plea for institutions to be fought for, speaking about how distressing it is to see the undermining of the Climate Change Commission and how the ideas generated by such institutions need to be valued so that when political winds change direction, solutions are there for the taking.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>As I made my way down the stairs, all the way from the top of Te Matapihi to the ground floor, I considered the fact that the loss and return of our central library is both a great story and a potential climate metaphor \u2013 for the basic infrastructure that we stand to lose if it\u2019s not talked about, fought for and protected.<\/p>\n<p> Kiwis in Climate: Voices for climate solutions in Aotearoa New Zealand, edited by Tessa Vincent ($45, Bateman) is <a href=\"https:\/\/www.unitybooks.co.nz\/products\/kiwis-in-climate\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">available to purchase at Unity Books.<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Books editor Claire Mabey reports back on \u2018Kiwis in Climate\u2019, the inaugural public event at Wellington library\u2019s stunning&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":333915,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[3],"tags":[489,118187,56613,492,42,85415,43,40,38,41,39,176678],"class_list":["post-333914","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-headlines","tag-books","tag-climate-anxiety","tag-climate-crisis","tag-comments-enabled","tag-headlines","tag-media-industry","tag-news","tag-top-news","tag-top-stories","tag-topnews","tag-topstories","tag-wellington-central-library"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/333914","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=333914"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/333914\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/333915"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=333914"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=333914"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=333914"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}