{"id":334940,"date":"2026-03-18T02:03:10","date_gmt":"2026-03-18T02:03:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/334940\/"},"modified":"2026-03-18T02:03:10","modified_gmt":"2026-03-18T02:03:10","slug":"defence-minister-judith-collins-reassures-new-zealand-will-still-make-sovereign-decisions-over-force-despite-closer-ties-with-australia","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/334940\/","title":{"rendered":"Defence Minister Judith Collins reassures New Zealand will still \u2018make sovereign decisions\u2019 over force despite closer ties with Australia"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"KYEvgaSZnwMMmNilyq\" style=\"display:none\">The minister has been in Canberra for annual meetings with her Australian counterpart, as well as alongside the countries\u2019 two foreign affairs ministers. <\/p>\n<p class=\"KYEvgaSZnwMMmNilyq\" style=\"display:none\">A joint statement released after canvassed a range of issues, from the conflict in the Middle East, to the Pacific, to condemnation of Russia\u2019s invasion of Ukraine. <\/p>\n<p class=\"KYEvgaSZnwMMmNilyq\" style=\"display:none\">Separately, Collins and Marles delivered a statement titled \u201cOperationalising the Australia &#8211; New Zealand Alliance: Anzac 2035 \u2013 Closer Defence Relations\u201d. <\/p>\n<p class=\"KYEvgaSZnwMMmNilyq\" style=\"display:none\">It outlined  how the two countries\u2019 defence forces would step up their engagement. <\/p>\n<p class=\"KYEvgaSZnwMMmNilyq\" style=\"display:none\">This includes moves to deepen co-operation on \u201cforce posture activities, combined operations and exercises, preparedness, defence industry integration, resilience, and Pacific security\u201d. <\/p>\n<p class=\"KYEvgaSZnwMMmNilyq\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cThe Australian and New Zealand Defence Forces are operationalising our Alliance with a vision of being able to operate seamlessly as an increasingly integrated, combat capable Anzac force by 2035, while remaining respectful of our status as two sovereign countries,\u201d the statement said. <\/p>\n<p class=\"KYEvgaSZnwMMmNilyq\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cIn the face of a sharply deteriorating security environment, we must be ready to meet the security threats we face today and in the future.\u201d <\/p>\n<p><img  alt=\"Defence Minister Judith Collins says it makes sense for the two countries to work together. Photo \/ Mark Mitchell\" class=\"article-media__image responsively-lazy\" data-test-ui=\"article-media__image\"\/>Defence Minister Judith Collins says it makes sense for the two countries to work together. Photo \/ Mark Mitchell<\/p>\n<p class=\"KYEvgaSZnwMMmNilyq\" style=\"display:none\">Collins told the Herald NZ and Australia are already working closely together \u2013 for example, the second-in-command of Australia\u2019s Joint Operations is a Kiwi and our equivalent is an Australian \u2013 but there was more to do in an \u201cincreasingly challenging world\u201d. <\/p>\n<p class=\"KYEvgaSZnwMMmNilyq\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cThe fact is that Australia has a lot more kit and a lot more people than us, and there are certain things that we can really add value with,\u201d Collins said, later speaking of New Zealand\u2019s \u201ccompetency\u201d working in the Pacific. <\/p>\n<p class=\"KYEvgaSZnwMMmNilyq\" style=\"display:none\">Last year, Collins <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nzherald.co.nz\/nz\/politics\/new-planes-helicopters-with-hellfire-missiles-precision-kill-weapon-system-on-investment-list\/LYHMK2QLZJEL5BU2ILFLRST32E\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.nzherald.co.nz\/nz\/politics\/new-planes-helicopters-with-hellfire-missiles-precision-kill-weapon-system-on-investment-list\/LYHMK2QLZJEL5BU2ILFLRST32E\/\">announced the MH-60R Seahawks were NZ\u2019s preferred option <\/a>to replace the existing maritime helicopters. These are the same helicopters used by Australia. <\/p>\n<p class=\"KYEvgaSZnwMMmNilyq\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cWe know that they fit on the frigates,\u201d Collins said on Wednesday. <\/p>\n<p class=\"KYEvgaSZnwMMmNilyq\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cWe know that our pilots, they could fly the Australian ones if we need to. The Australians can fly ours if we need to. <\/p>\n<p class=\"KYEvgaSZnwMMmNilyq\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cIt makes a lot of sense, if we can afford it, to in many cases, buy the same as them. Sometimes it doesn\u2019t. Sometimes it\u2019s best if we do something complimentary.\u201d <\/p>\n<p class=\"KYEvgaSZnwMMmNilyq\" style=\"display:none\">Under the AUKUS agreement, Australia is set to acquire up to five Virginia-class nuclear-power submarines from the United States in the early 2030s. <\/p>\n<p class=\"KYEvgaSZnwMMmNilyq\" style=\"display:none\">Asked how New Zealand may work alongside those subs, given our country\u2019s general nuclear-free sentiment, Collins said that was a \u201chypothetical\u201d for now. <\/p>\n<p class=\"KYEvgaSZnwMMmNilyq\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cWe\u2019re not in that situation right at the moment &#8230; I think people would need to consider it.\u201d <\/p>\n<p><img  alt=\"Australian Foreign Affairs Minister Penny Wong said her country was not taking offensive action against Iran. Photo \/ Mark Mitchell\" class=\"article-media__image responsively-lazy\" data-test-ui=\"article-media__image\"\/>Australian Foreign Affairs Minister Penny Wong said her country was not taking offensive action against Iran. Photo \/ Mark Mitchell<\/p>\n<p>Conflict in the Middle East <\/p>\n<p class=\"KYEvgaSZnwMMmNilyq\" style=\"display:none\">The annual meeting came as war continues in the Middle East, after the United States and Israel\u2019s strikes on Iran and the Iranian regime\u2019s retaliatory attacks on neighbouring countries which host US bases. <\/p>\n<p class=\"KYEvgaSZnwMMmNilyq\" style=\"display:none\">Collins said neither New Zealand nor Australia have \u201cmuch information\u201d and neither country had received any \u201crequests for help\u201d from the United States. <\/p>\n<p class=\"KYEvgaSZnwMMmNilyq\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cObviously there\u2019s limitations on what we can provide anyway, so any decisions like that would have to go through Cabinet and whatever it is, it\u2019s got to be in New Zealand\u2019s best interest,\u201d she said. <\/p>\n<p class=\"KYEvgaSZnwMMmNilyq\" style=\"display:none\">If such a request was to emerge, Collins said she\u2019d expect New Zealand and Australia would co-ordinate closely. <\/p>\n<p class=\"KYEvgaSZnwMMmNilyq\" style=\"display:none\">Australia has sent an E-7A Wedgetail plane to the United Arab Emirates (UAE) \u201cto help protect and defend Australians and other civilians\u201d, said Foreign Affairs Minister Penny Wong. <\/p>\n<p class=\"KYEvgaSZnwMMmNilyq\" style=\"display:none\">This was \u201cin support of the collective self-defence of Gulf nations\u201d. <\/p>\n<p class=\"KYEvgaSZnwMMmNilyq\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cThe Albanese Government has been clear that we are not taking offensive action against Iran and we have been clear that we are not deploying Australian troops on the ground in Iran.\u201d <\/p>\n<p class=\"KYEvgaSZnwMMmNilyq\" style=\"display:none\">With Collins having announced her retirement from politics, the meeting in Canberra will be one of her last international engagements. <\/p>\n<p class=\"KYEvgaSZnwMMmNilyq\" style=\"display:none\">She said she had been \u201coverwhelmed by how incredibly positive and friendly\u201d people had been. <\/p>\n<p class=\"KYEvgaSZnwMMmNilyq\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cI was enjoying it so much yesterday that I had this terrible urge to say, \u2018look, I\u2019m only kidding, guys, I\u2019m staying\u2019, but that\u2019s how friendly we are with each other, but I didn\u2019t do that.\u201d <\/p>\n<p class=\"KYEvgaSZnwMMmNilyq\" style=\"display:none\">Collins said she believed \u201cthis is probably the best relationship we\u2019ve seen between Australia and New Zealand, at a political level, that we\u2019ve ever seen\u201d. <\/p>\n<p class=\"KYEvgaSZnwMMmNilyq\" style=\"display:none\">Jamie Ensor is the NZ Herald\u2019s chief political reporter, based in the press gallery at Parliament. 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